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keykey posted:California is that but on an infinite multiplier. I'm super glad I'm not doing grad school at UC Berkeley since it was one of the finalists my decision came down to. All the recent bullshit started a few weeks after I would have started and the major bullshit hit when I would have been on campus during a Saturday. I'm not sure about the rest of the states, but CA is the worst of both sides since people are so hard left that they have their heads way up their asses and the right is so hard the other direction that they equally have their heads up their asses. Berkeley isn't representative of California. The Locator posted:How hard is it to understand that you need to find a candidate that will appeal to that 20~30% of voters that actually are willing to compromise and not vote straight party ticket in order to win? That number is a lot narrower these days, and not a homogeneous group between states. Middle ground appeal is also much more difficult, because it closely resembles wishy-washiness. People do not get fired up by a platform of "somewhere in the middle seems good," they like powerful, uncompromising declarations of Truth with no pesky details to try to figure out. Ultimately, winning the swing voter is more about personality than policy.
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fridge corn posted:I wasnt expecting you to unironically defend Tim Farron of all people, especially considering the lib dems did not do very well in the election Don't forget that a lot of people were voting Labour not for Labour, but as the "only ones who can beat the Tories".
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InitialDave posted:I never expected him to come even close to winning, but I never had a problem with the man, he always struck me as being a decent guy. Nevermind, this discussion is getting off topic. I was trying to illustrate how a centrist labour candidate would not have polled better than corbyn but you managed to completely bugger my arguement by being a guy who actually likes Tim Farron
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Leperflesh posted:Berkeley isn't representative of California. I moved to Berkley thinking i'd finish my degree at CAL. after working with some CAL graduates I want to run the gently caress away.
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The Locator posted:What really ticks me off about the parties is that they seem to be unable to comprehend this: Well... because that doesn't actually work. The mainstream DNC is moving towards the middle to try to execute that idea, and the GOP to the right... so what you have is a bunch of people who are articulating clear policy, and a bunch of people who are inherently going on about working with the other side and compromising. It would be the only thing that worked if every single eligible voter actually voted, but instead actually getting people to bother to vote for someone can pretty easily drown out swing voters.
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Berkeley is the intellectual shithole of America.
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Leperflesh posted:Berkeley isn't representative of California. I'm not disputing that at all, I'm simply stating my decision worked out better than it could have.
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fridge corn posted:Nevermind, this discussion is getting off topic. I was trying to illustrate how a centrist labour candidate would not have polled better than corbyn but you managed to completely bugger my arguement by being a guy who actually likes Tim Farron
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On a completely different subject.... Tacoma vs F150. Go! Seriously, why the *gently caress* did Ford kill the Ranger? And why is it taking so long to bring it back? Gimme the 3.5EB in a mid sized body and I'm sold. I'll probably end up leasing the taco and replacing it with a ranger in a bit, I just can't wait another year for Ford to pull their head out of their rear end and release the thing. I have a great fear that it'll max out with the 2.7EB just to piss me off. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Ford rangers are cool. The ones sold in Australia are built in Thailand. I guess you can;t import them there and ford didn't want to build a plant in the US? So chicken tax killed it?Darchangel posted:I've changed my mind. Put a rotary in it! Suck it, piston lover. One day you will run out of housings, and then you'll be stuffed. I had a 12a turbo once, I bet that was rare in the US. I had it rebuilt and ported 15 years ago and daily drove it for 5 years. I threw it in for free to the buyer when I sold my 808 and 929. Along with a 13B bridgeport and carbs. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Fo3 posted:One day you will run out of housings, and then you'll be stuffed. gently caress that, how hard could housings be to make?
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Known of anyone that could even repair them?
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ilkhan posted:On a completely different subject.... Ford didn't really kill the ranger, it just isn't available in our region, which just boggles the mind...
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Enh, I've seen a bunch of hobbyists pop up now and then but nobody sufficiently serious. I've heard tell of new cast ones on some team's cars back in the Rolex GT RX-8 days too but no solid info. The big problem is 99% of all rotary people are just cheap and setting up to fix housings is always going to be more expensive than just cutting Mazda a check.
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I should send you a PM...
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ilkhan posted:On a completely different subject.... I like the Tacoma but holy gently caress they cost as much (sometimes more) than the Tundra. I bought a used F150 Ecoboost. My mistake was buying the 1st year of that motor which was plagued by timing chain issues. Also, the heater blend door actuator is buggered but that's an easy fix. Otherwise I love the poo poo out of that truck. Don't fool yourself though, the Ranger isn't going to be a light vehicle. It's like the size of a late 90's F-150. It looks bigger than the Explorer Sport Trac. At that point I just say gently caress it and get the F150. It can do real truck things. Fo3 posted:Ford rangers are cool. The ones sold in Australia are built in Thailand. I guess you can;t import them there and ford didn't want to build a plant in the US? So chicken tax killed it? I'd say that was part of it. The rest of it is americans being fat hambeasts 
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mekilljoydammit posted:gently caress that, how hard could housings be to make? The castings themselves are relatively easy, it's the hardened apex seal surface that only Mazda seems to know how to pull off.
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Darchangel posted:A six?! Stick an LSx in it! Why the hell do you want to put a piece of poo poo like a LS when you can have the glory and brain bending hositility of a Barra on so much boooooost a LS would be wimpering in fear in the corner? For it is not the V8 that the real Warboys worship, but the Barra Our Barra Who art in car Hallowed be thy Name Your boost to come Your torque be done On dragstrip as is on race track Give us today our daily burnout And forgive us our 60 foot times And lead us not to the US But deliver us from LS For thine is the power, the 1/8 and 1/4 Forever more Amen
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ilkhan posted:On a completely different subject.... I would be loving shocked if they offer the 3.5EB in the Ranger. poo poo, they won't even let you have it in a standard cab short bed F-150 anymore. They did it last gen with the Tremor package, but you can't do it with the new aluminum ones. Let me have my hot rod truck you dicks! 
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Hot rod truck? What you want is a turbo barra falcon ute.
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Darchangel posted:The castings themselves are relatively easy, it's the hardened apex seal surface that only Mazda seems to know how to pull off.
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Fo3 posted:Hot rod truck? What you want is a turbo barra falcon ute. I mean, yeah, but 'Murica won't let us get that.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Why the hell do you want to put a piece of poo poo like a LS when you can have the glory and brain bending hositility of a Barra on so much boooooost a LS would be wimpering in fear in the corner?  https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-1109-stock-gm-ls-engine-big-bang-theory/ The barra is a good substitute for you kangaroo fuckers that can't readily go to a junkyard and yank out a bitchin 4.8, 5.3 or 6.0 out of a truck. But it will most certainly take plenty of loving boost on a stock bottom end. And it has the added bonus of fitting in loving everything.
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IOwnCalculus posted:I mean, yeah, but 'Murica won't let us get that. Same here. (well, new ones. FoMoCo US has been trying to kill the falcon for ages). Would you like a probe? gently caress no. Would you like a taurus? gently caress no. I've got plenty of FWD cars, what about a mondeo? gently caress no. Oh well too bad, goodnight. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:I'd say that was part of it. The rest of it is americans being fat hambeasts Which makes it even worse, because the new Rangers are huge compared to what we're used to. When I was in CR I saw a few around and Ford essentially made the same move as Chevy with the Colorado.
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Your V8's suck about as much as the bear piss the USA calls coffee. BARRA FOREVER!
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Small trucks don't make sense in this country. Just get an F-150 if a truck is what you want. I rent one about every other week and the 3.5 with the 10 speed returns some impressive gas mileage and seems solid enough. I wouldn't trust it in the long run given its inherent complexity, but if your planning on dumping it before then its going to be ok. Also ford shameful warranty denials but toyota has done the same to me so meh. I would consider buying one myself and I am usually a chevy guy. Although mine would probably be a 5.0 with the 10 speed.
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InitialDave posted:I suspect some of the "repair" plasma-sprayed coatings used in aerospace could do it, but the development work might be a bit expensive. Someone tried to do something like that years ago, but I haven't heard anything else about it. Would be nice if it happened, since the usual reason housings are chucked is because of peeling chrome. Grind them down a little, and spray a ceramic coating or whatever, polish, and not throw away a housing. IOwnCalculus posted:I mean, yeah, but 'Murica won't let us get that. Yeah, that. either bit - the ute or the 6.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Your V8's suck about as much as the bear piss the USA calls coffee. BARRA FOREVER! Thems fightin words 
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rdb posted:Also ford shameful warranty denials but toyota has done the same to me so meh. OH YEAH! that was the other thing I wanted to mention. I took my truck to the dealer like 3 times about the timing chain before my warranty was up and each time Ford came back with some new bullshit made up criteria that wasn't met. "Your engine isn't throwing a code yet." "Your engine isn't throwing the right codes." "Look we basically can't do anything until the motor grenades itself."
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Darchangel posted:Someone tried to do something like that years ago, but I haven't heard anything else about it. Would be nice if it happened, since the usual reason housings are chucked is because of peeling chrome. Grind them down a little, and spray a ceramic coating or whatever, polish, and not throw away a housing. Well, I mean, Mazda did do it years ago, so it's not unpaved ground...  I mean, the only bit that gets to be really unusual is the shape of the housings. I could find someplace local to do industrial hard chroming or flame/plasma spraying of cermets or whatever pretty trivially, but I'd have to actually make a jig to do the machining.
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Can't they be rechromed? I get mahoosive automotive press dies rechromed at work on the regular, they hit a specified chrome thickness to within a micron or two every time.
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Adiabatic posted:Thems fightin words The only Chrysler Hemi I recognise is the 265 Straight Six Hemi 
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You Am I posted:The only Chrysler Hemi I recognise is the 265 Straight Six Hemi Hey you want to go get a pizza?
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Guys if you want a small truck just import a kei truck, put it in your closet and drive your real car and bust out your tiny, tough-as-gently caress little truck that you can put anywhere, haul way more than you probably would want to, and feed it a few drops of fuel when you do. When you're done, put it under your bed.
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rdb posted:Small trucks don't make sense in this country. Just get an F-150 if a truck is what you want. I rent one about every other week and the 3.5 with the 10 speed returns some impressive gas mileage and seems solid enough. I wouldn't trust it in the long run given its inherent complexity, but if your planning on dumping it before then its going to be ok. Also ford shameful warranty denials but toyota has done the same to me so meh.
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I will always vote F-150. My 2006 with a V6 engine has over 240,000 miles on it and is still running strong. I drove a base model Tacoma for work and it was a lot less truck and it got similar gas mileage to my F-150.
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ilkhan posted:Yeah, I test drive one and it just felt so loving huge... I need to drive one again. The F-150 had vastly more technology options available, too. Costs a bit more, but it's a lot more truck. To me, they feel normal size but I used to drive 24' box trucks and owned a 3/4 ton crew cab long bed chevy so yeah. Unless you live where you would need a $500 a month parking space for it don't let the size discourage you. Especially if you ever need a rear facing car seat, or plan on having normal size people ride in the back. Or if you plan on towing other vehicles, or hauling more than 1000lbs in the bed, etc. Also they should be discounting the crap out of the 2017s since 2018 is a redesign. Its one of those vehicles where you should be paying 10k off sticker at least.
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QuarkMartial posted:I will always vote F-150. My 2006 with a V6 engine has over 240,000 miles on it and is still running strong. I sold my 2006 F-150 (5.4 engine) to a neighbor when it had about 85,000 miles on it about 4 years ago now. Last I saw it had 150,000+, and I'm fairly certain that it's seen exactly zero maintenance since I sold it. His wife ran off the road and hit a curb so hard it wrecked a rim and slightly bent an axle. It still has the spare rim/tire on it from that. When a power window failed he didn't fix it or even jam it permanently up, he just puts up plastic when it looks like it might rain. Makes me sad to see it, but it just keeps on trucking.
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1997 F-150 5.4l reporting in with 344k. The harmonic balancer finally separated a few weeks back and the AC clutch failed. The best part is $200 gets it back on the road with a tuneup.
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