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I find there's no substitute for playing against competitive decklists to understand them. MTGO is my vehicle of choice but $$.
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sit on my Facebook posted:4 Insolent Neonate Gonna quote myself in advance of the pro tour and say that while my janky home brew obviously won't catch on in that scene, it should. My friends and I have been testing standard and this deck is frankly absurd. Brewing has become a frustrating exercise for my buddies because they just get ruthlessly smashed out by this list, repeatedly. I've posted it a few times itt but I'm nowhere near turbofog levels of repetitive posting so I'm gonna signal boost it again to try to get it to catch on. Seriously, go play a few games with it. It's tier 1 power level. I'd love to hear some feedback from the good players in this thread after they've seen it go
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ShaneB posted:I basically can't watch live magic anymore, the breaks are too uninteresting and frequent.
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sit on my Facebook posted:Gonna quote myself in advance of the pro tour and say that while my janky home brew obviously won't catch on in that scene, it should. My friends and I have been testing standard and this deck is frankly absurd. Brewing has become a frustrating exercise for my buddies because they just get ruthlessly smashed out by this list, repeatedly. I played this deck months ago when Amonket came out, almost that exact list actually. Brought it to FNMs and played dozens of games with it on MTGO. It's fast and brutal with putting power on the battlefield but at a certain point it just runs out of gas. The quality of removal in this standard is extremely high, and the deck has exactly zero tools to protect its board and very few to dig for more action. Not that an aggressive deck like it should, but I found that the removal package run by decks like Mardu Vehicles was very difficult to beat. I eventually transitioned first to a RG energy aggro, which had more reach and better protection, then to Temur energy midrange, then to other tempo decks that could play a threat and actually stick it. The current RDW deck does a very similar thing by imposing a brutal clock on every deck it plays. Some decks can stymie this fine, those that can't aren't going to be viable in the metagame. That does put a big restriction on brews, as you say, but not an insurmountable one. Also run 4 Ramunap Ruins in place of 4 Mountains. TheDemon fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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Jul 27, 2017 23:33
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TwistedNails posted:Look at those decknames on YouTube for play videos or read primers on mtggoldfish, channel fireball, or starcitygames. Also watching MTG streamers and ask questions. Or install xmage and play the decks yourself for free before buying into them. Unless it's that drat mill deck cos I don't think there's a single vid of it anywhere
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Jul 27, 2017 23:48
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sit on my Facebook posted:Gonna quote myself in advance of the pro tour and say that while my janky home brew obviously won't catch on in that scene, it should. My friends and I have been testing standard and this deck is frankly absurd. Brewing has become a frustrating exercise for my buddies because they just get ruthlessly smashed out by this list, repeatedly. I'm gonna throw it up on XMage and spin the wheels
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Jul 28, 2017 00:11
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PMush Perfect posted:I only have a debit card because my credit is nonexistent. Maybe if you're living paycheque to paycheque and have zero credit to your name then spending your money on frivolous magical cards is not the wisest plan of action.
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Jul 28, 2017 00:22
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Lone Goat posted:Maybe if you're living paycheque to paycheque and have zero credit to your name then spending your money on frivolous magical cards is not the wisest plan of action.
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Lone Goat posted:Maybe Fixed that for you.
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80s James Hetfield posted:I'm gonna throw it up on XMage and spin the wheels Try subbing the Geier-Reach Sanitarium for a Hostile Desert, I've been meaning to try that out. I'm less high on the Ramunap Ruins plan that the other guy mentioned because it weakens Game Trail and Cinder Glade, but I'm not sure it does by enough to be meaningful. Probably worth trying as well, but I like the mana base as is.
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Jul 28, 2017 00:31
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Lone Goat posted:Maybe if you're living paycheque to paycheque and have zero credit to your name then spending your money on frivolous magical cards is not the wisest plan of action. Magic is a game for children
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The PT Stream is live. The draft is about to start.
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Lets all talk about LSV's jacket....
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mcmagic posted:Lets all talk about LSV's jacket.... He has a younger woman in his life, he has to be fashionable.
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Sickening posted:He has a younger woman in his life, he has to be fashionable. Thats fashionable?
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What was that, a tenth or eleventh pick Oasis Ritualist? Kentaro Yamamoto might be good at drafting, guys E: also he P2P1ed Rampaging Hippo over Rhonas's Last Stand, which is surprising to me E2: Kentaro's deck is absolutely completely unreal Elyv fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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Jul 28, 2017 01:27
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Elyv posted:What was that, a tenth or eleventh pick Oasis Ritualist? Kentaro Yamamoto might be good at drafting, guys Yeah, Archfiend of Ifnir into Hapatra into double Decimator Beetle was exciting. Some of the drafting was a bit odd but his colors were clearly insanely open.
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Myriad Truths posted:Yeah, Archfiend of Ifnir into Hapatra into double Decimator Beetle was exciting. Some of the drafting was a bit odd but his colors were clearly insanely open. Black actually wasn't open, he didn't see any premium black commons like Final Reward or even very many just average ones, I think. Now, BG specifically? That was open.
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Jul 28, 2017 01:38
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Excited to hear what TWoo has to say.
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Smashing Link posted:Excited to hear what TWoo has to say. probably something about how the holodomor was just western propaganda
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mandatory lesbian posted:probably something about how the holodomor was just western propaganda He's a neo-nazi, not a Stalinist shill.
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Jul 28, 2017 02:39
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Kentaro Yamamoto's insane Haptara synergies are making me so happy.
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Star Man posted:He's a neo-nazi, not a Stalinist shill. Man I wanna make a joke about TWoo next leveling it to complaining about how "Germany never lost ww1" or the "Jewish bolshevik conspiracy" but I feel like no one is going to get why those are jokes.
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Owen lost round one, hooray. I really don't want to see him as draft master. Juza winning it would be awesome and Twoo winning it would be hilarious.
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Jul 28, 2017 03:00
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mcmagic posted:Thats fashionable?  ... I guess someone has to balance out Marshall.
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sit on my Facebook posted:Gonna quote myself in advance of the pro tour and say that while my janky home brew obviously won't catch on in that scene, it should. My friends and I have been testing standard and this deck is frankly absurd. Brewing has become a frustrating exercise for my buddies because they just get ruthlessly smashed out by this list, repeatedly. I tested the hell out a similar deck in AKH standard, and ultimately it just didn't have the right power level for me. I absolutely hated Tormenting Voice in this deck, its so awkward with Hazoret, Thankfully Earthshaker Khenra is completely insane, you should be running 4. The eternalize half of the card turns on Rhonas, and you can even cast it and pump it with Rhonas to enable him and add power with the trigger on the stack to take out a blocker. I'd also make an effort to cut Flameblade Adept for something that works better with the rest of the deck.
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Entropic posted:
He looks like he's running for President of the Condo Board at Del Boca Vista.
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It looks like he's wearing the inner liner of a winter coat
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Went to my first sealed league last night, was hoping you guys could give me some input. There's a chance I won't be going back because the only other player was the store owner. Here's my pool: Rares (They are...not great): 1 cascading cataracts 1 Oketra's last mercy 1 Leave/Chance Uncommons by color 1 sunscourge champion 1 imaginary threats 1 hashep oasis 1 watchful naga 1 torment of scarabs 1 ruthless sniper 1 destined/lead 1 inferno jet 1 resolute survivors Commons 1 final reward 1 cursed minotaur 1 wretched camel 1 trespasser's curse 1 lethal sting 1 granitic titan 1 blur of blades 1 bloodlust inciter 1 puncturing blow 2 beneath the sands 1 life goes on 1 frilled sandwalla 1 gift of strength 1 colossapede 1 harrier naga 2 dutiful servants 1 steadfast sentinel 1 sacred cat 1 unwavering initiate 1 anointer priest 1 desert of the true 1 cunning survivor 1 unquenchable thirst 1 tah-crop skirmisher 1 winds of rebuke 1 spellweaver eternal 1 traveller's amulet 1 survivor's encampment I went 2 and 2, which was kinda nuts as his rares were crested sunmare, archfiend of ifnir, and something else (plus a foil leave/chance) Built a White/Green/Black. The two games I won were pretty much completely from having a decent curve, getting torment of scarabs, and being able to exile/kill his sunmare and archfiend. What would you have made? Also oketra's last mercy is useless. Carl Killer Miller fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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Marketing New Brain posted:I tested the hell out a similar deck in AKH standard, and ultimately it just didn't have the right power level for me. I absolutely hated Tormenting Voice in this deck, its so awkward with Hazoret, Thankfully Earthshaker Khenra is completely insane, you should be running 4. The eternalize half of the card turns on Rhonas, and you can even cast it and pump it with Rhonas to enable him and add power with the trigger on the stack to take out a blocker. I'd also make an effort to cut Flameblade Adept for something that works better with the rest of the deck. I don't think you can do that, as "target creature with power less than or equal to" is a restriction on the targets. Once Khenra enters the battlefield, you have to put the trigger on the stack right away, so you have to pick a creature with power less than or equal as the target. Furthermore, the Gatherer says: 6/27/2017 The target creature’s power is checked when you target it with Earthshaker Khenra’s ability and when that ability resolves. Once the ability resolves, if the creature’s power increases or Earthshaker Khenra’s power decreases, the target creature will still be unable to block. 6/27/2017 Spells, activated abilities, and triggered abilities can’t raise Earthshaker Khenra’s power before you have to choose a target for its ability. Static abilities, such as that of Lord of the Accursed, will raise its power in time to let you target a larger creature. So it doesn't matter how P/T changes after the ability is targeted.
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Entropic posted:
lsv fully embracing his new dad role
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Yeah, the target of a spell or ability has to be valid when you put that ability on the stack. You can't just choose an illegal target and then try to make it legal at some point later before the ability resolves. If a creature with power 2 has a "target creature with power less than or equal to this creature's power" ability, you can't target a 4/4 with that ability any more than you could target Thrun with a Doom Blade. And there's no point between when the creature enters the battlefield and its ability goes on the stack where you have priority. Entropic fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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Jul 28, 2017 04:02
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It's a beautiful day in my neighborhood.
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TheDemon posted:I don't think you can do that, as "target creature with power less than or equal to" is a restriction on the targets. Once Khenra enters the battlefield, you have to put the trigger on the stack right away, so you have to pick a creature with power less than or equal as the target. Furthermore, the Gatherer says: Oh right, the modern templating is so weird. I thought it was just a trigger that on resolution checked to see the power between the two creatures, but you can't fizzle it because it only works based on the ETB strength. I like old templating better, for stuff like this and O-Rings it was nice how you could do weird tricks with them. I didn't realize it wasn't just "Choose target creature. If it has power less than or equal to ESK, it can't block" but yeah the way it is designed, no cool tricks. e: I also think Earthshaker is still an auto include in any red beatdown deck Marketing New Brain fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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I actually won my first two ever league matches tonight. Anointed procession and the Regal Caracal did some work. Also bought a pack of theros because I'm a dumbass and opened a thoughtseize.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:lsv fully embracing his new dad role
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He still looks a lot better than that shitlord efro did in a full suit.
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TwistedNails posted:He still looks a lot better than that shitlord efro did in a full suit. thanks for reminding me to look up one of my favorite MtG images: 
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Jul 28, 2017 05:28
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A big flaming stink posted:rip pikula He went 1-2 in the draft. I hope he has a broken Standard deck and ends up winning the Pro Tour. e: holy poo poo Pikula got 41%, so he'd have gotten in with the old rules.
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