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WaltherFeng posted:So I underestimated Judge Ghis because I remember there was a Crystal before the fight (there was not), so I had to dip into my storage of Hi-Potions and Ethers. Used Reflectga Mote on him and he practically killed himself. FFIX has a job system though? You just can't change them after the character is introduced, and not before even
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Alxprit posted:No FFT game is immune to this, though. it's also the worst part of those games.
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Jul 28, 2017 05:44
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FFIX was the best of the PS1 run, and not even by a small margin.
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Jul 28, 2017 05:47
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Calaveron posted:FFIX has a job system though? You just can't change them after the character is introduced, and not before even That's what I trying to get across. I guess the only way to fix the game is to add subjobs. I have problems with FFIX. Mainly the battles and the Trance. (A lot of people like how it activates during important story beats but I feel like that was underutilized and it should last for a lot longer even by thematic reasons) WaltherFeng fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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Jul 28, 2017 06:16
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Noctone posted:FFIX was the best of the PS1 run, and not even by a small margin. I disagree pretty strongly and 9 is one of my least favorites. Most bad? More the worst in the franchise?
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Jul 28, 2017 06:21
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Barudak posted:I disagree pretty strongly and 9 is one of my least favorites. Most bad? More the worst in the franchise? "least great"
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Jul 28, 2017 06:25
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Countblanc posted:its weird that all the viera dress like that because they didn't in FFTA and they looked cool in that game i think i'm gonna replay FFTA2 now, it's so fun playing dress up in those games, top tier character design work there plus, y'know, Assassin/Geomancer Viera being able to instakill anything in the game (iirc)
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Jul 28, 2017 08:04
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Barudak posted:I disagree pretty strongly and 9 is one of my least favorites. Most bad? More the worst in the franchise? It's well above the worst in the franchise. Unlike XV, IX is a complete game.
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Jul 28, 2017 08:13
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Barudak posted:I disagree pretty strongly and 9 is one of my least favorites. As is your right, friend.
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Jul 28, 2017 08:14
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My wife is playing FF9 for the first time right now, being able to speed up the 15 second delay between random encounters starting and you getting to input anything looks like it makes a massive difference
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Jul 28, 2017 08:21
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precision posted:i think i'm gonna replay FFTA2 now, it's so fun playing dress up in those games, top tier character design work there Well you're at least a bit mistaken, because Viera can't be Geomancers, only Gria can. Assassins in general are quite capable of mucking up lots of encounters, especially if paired with Green Magic (either their own or a teammate's) since you can use that to cast Tranq and increase your accuracy with insta-kills.
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Jul 28, 2017 08:52
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Final Fantasy 9 is the best game in the series, easily, and you're all insane.
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Jul 28, 2017 09:27
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FactsAreUseless posted:Final Fantasy 9 is the best game in the series, easily, and you're all insane. Noctone posted:FFIX was the best of the PS1 run, and not even by a small margin. 
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Jul 28, 2017 09:29
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Nah 9's decent but I like at least 6, 7 and 10 better than it.
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Jul 28, 2017 09:29
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FF9 is the greatest thing ever wrought by human hands. Or at least its soundtrack is. Game ain't half bad either.
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Jul 28, 2017 09:31
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VII may or may not have been better in relation to its time, but it's held up incredibly bad imo. I recently replayed my way through IX, VIII and VII (in that order) and the latter is the only one that felt incredibly outdated and clunky. VI is still legit, though.
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Jul 28, 2017 09:38
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FactsAreUseless posted:Final Fantasy 9 is the best game in the series, easily, and you're all insane. It's the Final Fantasy sickness. You have it too, don't you? A fine Final Fantasy, to you
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Jul 28, 2017 09:41
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Sakurazuka posted:Nah 9's decent but I like at least 6, 7 and 10 better than it. 4 too
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Jul 28, 2017 09:49
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I've started 4 like six times but never actually finished it :/
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Jul 28, 2017 09:51
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I posit that FF4 is the perfect old style JRPG. You don't have to grind, it's not too easy, it's never obtuse where you have to go next, almost every character is well defined both in and out of combat, etc.
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Jul 28, 2017 09:59
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FactsAreUseless posted:Final Fantasy 9 is the best game in the series, easily, and you're all insane. Both Sakaguchi and an admin said it, so it's now SA law. (Even though the best game is actually 5).
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Jul 28, 2017 10:00
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I've got a soft spot for 4 as well. Up until Cecil becomes a Paladin that game is a masterclass in interweaving story and gameplay, though sadly it falls off from that aspect other than plot battles and the occasional cutscene spell. Still makes up for it with a solid difficulty curve, great music, and a solid plot. Plus it's so god drat goofy, and Cid blowing himself up might be my favorite moment in the series because, god drat dude.
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Jul 28, 2017 10:04
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precision posted:I posit that FF4 is the perfect old style JRPG. You don't have to grind, it's not too easy, it's never obtuse where you have to go next, almost every character is well defined both in and out of combat, etc. I should probably make more of an effort to finish it since it's the only mainline FF game I'm likely to beat (i.e. it's not a NES game or an mmo) and still haven't.
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Jul 28, 2017 10:04
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the best final fantasy is mystic quest
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Jul 28, 2017 10:05
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Until 7 Mystic Quest was the only FF game to get an official UK release, I thought it was trash at a time when I would literally play any JRPG no matter how bad and I doubt it has improved with age.
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Jul 28, 2017 10:11
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Mystic Quest was fun in the way really simple phone games are now. It also had super good music
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Jul 28, 2017 10:15
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FFIX has flaws but they're almost all because the game exceeds the limitations of the hardware. Otherwise in terms of design it's probably the best of at the single player games in the series, by a fair margin.
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Jul 28, 2017 10:21
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Mage Masher is the best worst translation ever
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Jul 28, 2017 11:35
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precision posted:Mage Masher is the best worst translation ever isn't it the right translation
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Jul 28, 2017 11:44
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Not that it's the game's fault, but wasn't IX the one with that completely-useless-but-still-full-price strategy guide? If it's the one I'm thinking of, I think I've got that fucker around here somewhere. "In this room, you'll find a devious puzzle. For the solution, go to our website (that will be gone immediately following the game's release)!" 
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Jul 28, 2017 12:26
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Yeah that was 9. Funny thing was it was (deliberately) the easiest game to find all the optional stuff in outside of a couple of things.
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Jul 28, 2017 12:32
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Wakka is maybe the worst party member ever, personality wise Even Zell was better
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NikkolasKing posted:
The newer translation does this a bit better, with Sabin calling out Vargas for killing his father, Vargas said he did it to become super power, then Sabin beats him in one attack. It's incredibly likely that Vargas just sucker puched Duncan and Sabin saw him drop him off the mountain. That was what I always figured, since there's no body, so Sabin and Vargas had to both be convinced that Duncan had died and a seemingly fatal fall would accomplish that.
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Mega64 posted:I've got a soft spot for 4 as well. Up until Cecil becomes a Paladin that game is a masterclass in interweaving story and gameplay, though sadly it falls off from that aspect other than plot battles and the occasional cutscene spell. Still makes up for it with a solid difficulty curve, great music, and a solid plot. Plus it's so god drat goofy, and Cid blowing himself up might be my favorite moment in the series because, god drat dude.  4 has always been one of my favorites. A lot of the later ones did things better but 4 still has a special place for me. precision posted:Wakka is maybe the worst party member ever, personality wise Wakka has one of the best character arcs tho
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FactsAreUseless posted:Final Fantasy 9 is the best game in the series, easily, and you're all insane.
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precision posted:I think I'm gonna replay the FFX remaster again, what are the big things to remember to break the game (early steals, rare drops, that kind of thing)? Not much breaking, but there's a lot of stuff you can miss and it pays to backtrack or look up to make sure you get to save some pain later. Things like: * Valefor's much better second overdrive (after you complete all activities in Besaid village the first time, instead of going to the beach go to the shopkeeper and talk to him and follow the breadcrumb) so you don't have to fight Dark Valefor first which is pretty much endgame territory. * Getting all the Destruction Spheres as you go through the temples (especially Besaid & Macalania which will be protected by Dark Aeons) the first time. * Making sure you successfully learn the Jecht Shot during the QTE to make Blitzball a bit easier before you get your team together. * Grabbing the Al Bhed Primers 19-22 which are exclusive and can't be picked up again later without making a new game. * Getting Steal on Kimahri (actually just run him down Rikku's path) early because his solo fight is one of the best ways to get the L3 unlock spheres.
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:Not that it's the game's fault, but wasn't IX the one with that completely-useless-but-still-full-price strategy guide? Yeah, that was the one where they were trying to push their PlayOnline website like crazy. I think I might still have a copy of that lovely guide. It's hilarious.
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Jul 28, 2017 14:18
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Harrow posted:That's definitely more Guild Wars 1 than 2. GW2 is fully MMO, with wide-open areas where you and random players do big open-world events. Honestly, there really shouldn't be another MMO Final Fantasy again for a long time, because, well, XIV is fine and they can just keep making updates to that. The MMO genre came a long way since FFXI, but it's kind of at the point where they have this poo poo figured out and I don't see it evolving much in the future. Not unless VR becomes a big thing.
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Mega64 posted:I've got a soft spot for 4 as well. Up until Cecil becomes a Paladin that game is a masterclass in interweaving story and gameplay, though sadly it falls off from that aspect other than plot battles and the occasional cutscene spell. Still makes up for it with a solid difficulty curve, great music, and a solid plot. Plus it's so god drat goofy, and Cid blowing himself up might be my favorite moment in the series because, god drat dude. Have you played the DS remake? The difficulty is considerably higher in the last half of the game and they added a few new twists to the bosses to where it's really interesting to play through again.
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I really liked the DS remake of 4. It's like a version of Final Fantasy that hung out with an SMT game for a while and really fell in love with making buffs super important.
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