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ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock
defcon ctf finals is probably gonna be...interesting

organizers have designed their own virtual machine/architecture

quote:

cLEMENCy is the LEgitbs Middle ENdian Computer architecture developed
by Lightning for DEF CON CTF.

Each byte is 9 bits of data, bit 0 is the left most significant bit. Middle-
Endian data stores bits 9 to 17, followed by bits 0 to 8, then bits 18 to 27 in
memory when handling three bytes. Two bytes of data will have bits 9-17 then
bits 0 to 8 written to memory.

glad I'm not taking part in that this time

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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




that's right to be forgotten, to clarify. gdpr now is a whole different beast, but it applies to data controllers and processors, i.e. social networks, search engines, and le cloud.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






ymgve posted:

defcon ctf finals is probably gonna be...interesting

organizers have designed their own virtual machine/architecture


glad I'm not taking part in that this time

lmfao gently caress off haha

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






ymgve posted:

defcon ctf finals is probably gonna be...interesting

organizers have designed their own virtual machine/architecture


glad I'm not taking part in that this time

lmfao gently caress off haha

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






thanks radium

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

ymgve posted:

defcon ctf finals is probably gonna be...interesting

organizers have designed their own virtual machine/architecture


glad I'm not taking part in that this time

Wasn't there a thing about people cheating last time? Is this in response to that?

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Mr SuperAwesome posted:

guns are p dumb

amen to that

i went to thurston high which got shot up by some kid named kip kinkel

also went to high school with the guy who did the colorado springs shooting spree to suicide by cop

his mom was a good friend of my mom, and on the wagon before that

she fell off for a bit

gently caress guns

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
that being said, love you j290

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

syscall girl posted:

amen to that

i went to thurston high which got shot up by some kid named kip kinkel

also went to high school with the guy who did the colorado springs shooting spree to suicide by cop

his mom was a good friend of my mom, and on the wagon before that

she fell off for a bit

gently caress guns

the gun made him do it.

that said I think we can all agree that "smart guns" are dumb as poo poo.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Memento posted:

27 years for re-using passwords and failing to encrypt his laptop. That's the good stuff.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/27/russian_politicians_son_gets_27yrs_fraud

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


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Offensive Clock

Avenging_Mikon posted:

Wasn't there a thing about people cheating last time? Is this in response to that?

not sure which incident you mean but I fail to imagine any kind of cheating that somehow is prevented by making your custom architecture 9 bits instead of 8 bits

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

ymgve posted:

not sure which incident you mean but I fail to imagine any kind of cheating that somehow is prevented by making your custom architecture 9 bits instead of 8 bits

There was a CTF where one team...used the others as a botnet or something... and used a command to change something? It might not have been Defcon. There was a big post mortem written by the event organizers after. I don't know! I'm an idiot at this stuff and still learning.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Avenging_Mikon posted:

"Your company property is not allowed to reference me. Please provide me with proof you've removed my contact information from all your systems."

"you don't have an expensive enough lawyer for that, get hosed idiot"

Pollyzoid
Nov 2, 2010

GRUUAGH you say?

Avenging_Mikon posted:

There was a CTF where one team...used the others as a botnet or something... and used a command to change something? It might not have been Defcon. There was a big post mortem written by the event organizers after. I don't know! I'm an idiot at this stuff and still learning.

sounds like this one

https://ictf.cs.ucsb.edu/pages/the-2016-2017-ictf-ddos.html

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Yes, thanks. I'm going to reread it now.


fishmech posted:

"you don't have an expensive enough lawyer for that, get hosed idiot"


cinci zoo sniper posted:

*in european comission voice* that'll be just a few billions for time being, sir

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
a few billion euro fine toa tech company, aka, a 1,000 euro fine paid after the next 8 years of litigation

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
the law being selectively enforced for political purposes is the law working as intended

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

quote:

It also helped that Seleznev didnt use encryption at all.

Why did they need the password at all then?

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

fishmech posted:

a few billion euro fine toa tech company, aka, a 1,000 euro fine paid after the next 8 years of litigation

Go away, Nintendo Kid

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

https://torrentfreak.com/hackers-use-pirate-sites-to-ruin-your-life-state-attorneys-general-warn-170727

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




fishmech posted:

a few billion euro fine toa tech company, aka, a 1,000 euro fine paid after the next 8 years of litigation

google just paid around 2.5 bn

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av
and years ago, microsoft was forced to document a ton of windows internals as part of a settlement, which may have lead to them eventually documenting all their internal protocols and file types

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av
has this been posted?

https://twitter.com/codelancer/status/890620840080941056

twitter moderation always on point :thumbsup: "won't you think of the feelings of the war profiteers :qq:"

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




hackbunny posted:

has this been posted?

https://twitter.com/codelancer/status/890620840080941056

twitter moderation always on point :thumbsup: "won't you think of the feelings of the war profiteers :qq:"

corporations are people, as our american friends say

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
yeah i mean, like i said, the point of laws like this is to be so broad that it's basically impossible not to violate them, and then your prosecutors can just selectively go after the people you don't like (wicked foreign multinational corporations) and ignore the people you do (virtuous old firms that are still headquartered right here where they were founded, bless their hearts)

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




rjmccall posted:

yeah i mean, like i said, the point of laws like this is to be so broad that it's basically impossible not to violate them, and then your prosecutors can just selectively go after the people you don't like (wicked foreign multinational corporations) and ignore the people you do (virtuous old firms that are still headquartered right here where they were founded, bless their hearts)

yeah it's pretty easy to violate laws if you're an idiot techbro who hasn't read them

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
that's what the law is there for, that's why your domestic companies don't complain too much, they know what's up. put up a token effort and don't make enemies and nobody will come looking

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




rjmccall posted:

that's what the law is there for, that's why your domestic companies don't complain too much, they know what's up. put up a token effort and don't make enemies and nobody will come looking

our domestic companies don't complain because they are not free range totem enterprises. but hey, don't let me get in your way of defending plucky corporations from the poors

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Won't somebody think of the poor tech companies being bullied by the mean old European Commission. :qq:

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

fishmech posted:

lol right to be forgotten more like incentive to have people spitefully rehost everything possible

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

cinci zoo sniper posted:

yeah it's pretty easy to violate laws if you're an idiot techbro who hasn't read them


Get to work!

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

there is an EU law coming in called GDPR that includes right to be forgotten and stuff and it is going to gently caress. poo poo. up. because good luck finding which of your 100 old rear end hosed up document stores with 800Pb of data has my personal information in it when i vindictively pull that on you when i leave.

i'm going to be a happy camper when that's in effect and i can poo poo on paypal forever until they stop sending me their updated terms every month for my account they decided to lock and steal my money for 6 months and prevent me from ever closing it

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Hed posted:


Get to work!

i wonder how would the world look if there were legal and paralegal specialists for hire?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Hed posted:


Get to work!

my plucky little startup is moving into the european market and we hired consultants for this poo poo and we're a tiny company with less than 50 people, i think techbros can deal

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
its much easier to disrupt markets without a clear understanding of legal issues

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

cinci zoo sniper posted:

i wonder how would the world look if there were legal and paralegal specialists for hire?

I thought you were saying that techbros need to read the law. are lawyers techbros now?

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Powerful Two-Hander posted:

there is an EU law coming in called GDPR that includes right to be forgotten and stuff and it is going to gently caress. poo poo. up. because good luck finding which of your 100 old rear end hosed up document stores with 800Pb of data has my personal information in it when i vindictively pull that on you when i leave.


edit: gently caress this just reminded me that legal used to .pst peoples entire mailboxes and dump them on a shared drive when they left lol

hopefully a few big companies get hosed by this and it serves as an effective counterweight to the vague promises about some future big data powered magical algorithm payoff that companies use to justify mindlessly collecting and storing everything possible about everyone.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

yeah, i see no problem with this at all. either you go with the simple solution of not storing a bunch of information willy-nilly or you get to at least demonstrate an ability to keep track of the information you do store. transition will no doubt be tough for some, but long-term this is perfectly reasonable

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

yeah, i see no problem with this at all. either you go with the simple solution of not storing a bunch of information willy-nilly or you get to at least demonstrate an ability to keep track of the information you do store. transition will no doubt be tough for some, but long-term this is perfectly reasonable

The proposed legislation is absurd. It has the potential to require you to retroactively redact the email address of a customer stored in a PDF file inside a database, and every copy of that information, including offline tape backups. And you'll need any third party provider, regardless of their location, to be able to do the same.

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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Chalks posted:

The proposed legislation is absurd. It has the potential to require you to retroactively redact the email address of a customer stored in a PDF file inside a database, and every copy of that information, including offline tape backups. And you'll need any third party provider, regardless of their location, to be able to do the same.

the third party provider part has my company the most worried cuz we are one and we're generally irresponsible with data.

good.

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