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Nothus posted:Trump and the rest of the GOP can't get any legislation through Congress so now it's time to distract the rubes by stoking white race panic. MS13 is a real thing in Long Island and a real problem - they've killed a number of people recently. I doubt it's likely to improve by Trump blathering racial hate all around, because the way to defeat gangs is to increase the trust of the community they are drawn from, so that ordinary people are not afraid to report crimes/testify in court.
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That guy looks so old that I think they could probably drop the "Neo" part of "Neo-Nazi."
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BarbarianElephant posted:MS13 is a real thing in Long Island and a real problem - they've killed a number of people recently. I doubt it's likely to improve by Trump blathering racial hate all around, because the way to defeat gangs is to increase the trust of the community they are drawn from, so that ordinary people are not afraid to report crimes/testify in court. And what better way to make sure that people come forward with information than to deport every illegal alien who does.
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Pollyanna posted:What is the current state of Trump's rallies, anyway? Are they still drawing the crowds they used to? Has attendance plummeted? He doesn't have them that often I mean, way more than anyone should, because they should do 0, but it would be hard to determine
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/890971233159962624 This guy sounds exactly like Martin Scorsese.
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IPlayVideoGames posted:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iNwLDj6D520 Hungry Computer posted:Alternate audio: I love you guys, thank you!
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/890974009961185280 Speaking of close Feingold should've won his race, it's unreal that the Dems let that one go. Ron Johnson is literally a moron and is doing nothing to help his state, Feingold should've walked away with that.
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Pollyanna posted:What is the current state of Trump's rallies, anyway? Are they still drawing the crowds they used to? Has attendance plummeted? 40k Boy Scouts attended his last rally.
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Pollyanna posted:What is the current state of Trump's rallies, anyway? Are they still drawing the crowds they used to? Has attendance plummeted? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e1_-1gVZX0
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"US Senator John McCain casting his 'yes' vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act (June 20th 2018, Colorized)"
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Meanwhile, elsewhere in the Senate: Language protecting state legalization of medical weed added to appropriations bill. Is this likely to go anywhere? And how mad is Sessions now?
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I like this. It's got a good beat and you can dance to it.
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FizFashizzle posted:is ms13 actually a thing quote:MS-13 members: Trump makes the gang stronger Yes.
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haveblue posted:Meanwhile, elsewhere in the Senate: Language protecting state legalization of weed added to appropriations bill. Is this likely to go anywhere? And how mad is Sessions now? Nowhere, it's a show amendment. In practice, disentangling the weird nullification thing states are doing with marijuana is going to be a huge mess for the whole administrative structure.
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BarbarianElephant posted:MS13 is a real thing in Long Island and a real problem - they've killed a number of people recently. I doubt it's likely to improve by Trump blathering racial hate all around, because the way to defeat gangs is to increase the trust of the community they are drawn from, so that ordinary people are not afraid to report crimes/testify in court. Trump doesn't give a poo poo about increasing community trust and engagement to fight gang influence. He's going there to frighten old white people with Mexican boogeymen.
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Pollyanna posted:What is the current state of Trump's rallies, anyway? Are they still drawing the crowds they used to? Has attendance plummeted? At the Polish one, the entire supportive crowd was bused in. I'm sure that this has never happened domestically (too many nitwits who actually support him) but apparently, it's in the playbook.
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Drone strike Long Island you loving coward.
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EatinCake posted:I was in the senate gallery last night. No one was expecting that, & man is it surreal seeing all of the senators together. How'd you get into the gallery? Just got an ordinary pass?
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Grimdude posted:
Don't listen to the people in this thread telling you to tell the guy to gently caress off. Post a response, but do it knowing you're not trying to convince him, but any undecided who comes across the post. He's a lost cause, but other people silently following the arguments may not be. Here are a few points: - The difference between gender dysphoria and transgenderism (i.e. being transgender does not automatically lead to gender dysphoria) - Trump never consulted the military: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/344290-mattis-appalled-by-trump-tweets-announcing-transgender-military-ban-report - Trump misunderstood what Ryan was talking about : http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/trump-transgender-military-ban-behind-the-scenes-240990
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I never post a response to these people because then post I'm responding to will show up on my wall and more people will see it.
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Discendo Vox posted:Nowhere, it's a show amendment. In practice, disentangling the weird nullification thing states are doing with marijuana is going to be a huge mess for the whole administrative structure. I wouldn't call it dead, the DOJ's hands are already legislatively tied on cracking down on medical marijuana, this would just reinforce that and make it stronger, and it did pass committee, so its no longer just an amendment, its in the bill now and would have to be removed. It isn't saying weed is now OK federally, they are just prohibiting Sessions and the DOJ from spending any money to do anything about it in states where its legal.
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Nothus posted:Trump doesn't give a poo poo about increasing community trust and engagement to fight gang influence. He's going there to frighten old white people with Mexican boogeymen. This was wrong, he is speaking at the Brentwood campus. farraday fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I never post a response to these people because then post I'm responding to will show up on my wall and more people will see it. I don't think you can successfully "win" on Facebook, no matter what you do. Social media platforms are machines built to polarize and simplify. They're where nuance, debate, and open minds go to die.
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Nothus posted:Trump doesn't give a poo poo about increasing community trust and engagement to fight gang influence. He's going there to frighten old white people with Mexican boogeymen. Another growing problem is that local immigrants are not speaking up about MS13 crimes because of a fear of deportation, real threat or not, especially with the retoric from ol' Trump himself. Parts of LI are particularly vulnerable, but yeah there's also a lot of scared ignorant white people that feed off of Trump. You'll hear alot about Brentwood and Central Islip with this. It always upsets me how Long Island is not as progressive as it should be. I had to sever friendships from high school because their biases came out hardcore, especially nowadays.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/890974009961185280 Don't worry, our governor is making sure those pesky liberals won't be winning again anytime soon. http://www.wmur.com/article/aclu-nh-mulls-constitutional-challenge-of-voting-bill-signed-by-sununu/10291274 SB3 makes it harder for people to vote, especially those who are likely to vote liberal (college students, poor people working round the clock, etc). He also once claimed that MA was sending busloads of people across the border to vote Democrat in this last election.
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Don't listen to the people in this thread telling you to tell the guy to gently caress off. Post a response, but do it knowing you're not trying to convince him, but any undecided who comes across the post. He's a lost cause, but other people silently following the arguments may not be. One of the biggest misinformed assumptions from these people is that every trans person gets surgery and is out of service for a year. A very high number don't have surgery, and are simply on HRT. Which does not affect your ability to perform at the expected level of a cis man or a cis woman, depending if you are on Testosterone or Estrogen. Not every trans person has dysphoria related to their genitals.
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the black husserl posted:I don't think you can successfully "win" on Facebook, no matter what you do. Social Media Platforms are machines built to polarize and simplify. They're where nuance, debate, and open minds go to die. Unless you join some of the debate groups. (They still end up being pretty iffy.)
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the black husserl posted:I don't think you can successfully "win" on Facebook, no matter what you do. Social media platforms are machines built to polarize and simplify. They're where nuance, debate, and open minds go to die. I won the day I deactivated my account
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Grimdude posted:
This guy doesn't know what being transgender is or how it's medically classified. It is not seen a disorder and hasn't been for a long-rear end time. Gender Dysphoria is a disorder and involves mental discomfort and stress over your gender, but it doesn't affect everyone who is transgender. He also doesn't know that the US Military didn't want or ask for this. In fact, General Mattis, the secretary of defense, recently took a very public stance that LGBT should allowed to serve, and that the military will cover medical expenses related to being transgender. Trump pulled this out of his rear end after consulting NO ONE, and the Pentagon and DoD were taken by surprise. Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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Grimdude posted:
The thing that drives me crazy about these people is they'll shut down any input from civilians because "you don't know how the military works" but feel the need to defend Donald "good soldiers don't get captured" Trump's alzheimer's-laden tweet to the death, despite being 100% contrary to the official stance of the military.
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I hope no one is taking light the impact MS13 has because lol Trump. They have networks in most of the states, as well as Canada and Central America, inside and outside prisons. They have their hands in everything (murders, drug/human trafficking, etc). In Central America, they help other cartels move/distribute their supplies.
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CrocodileKingSaysNO posted:from the vote last night Collins was against cuts to PP.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I never post a response to these people because then post I'm responding to will show up on my wall and more people will see it. This is why I stopped arguing about this stuff over Facebook and had to cull some of my friends list. My trans friends have to deal with enough grief and they shouldn't have to read it on my Facebook wall.
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CrocodileKingSaysNO posted:from the vote last night Collins has voted no on every repeal bill, even the 2015 repeal that everyone else voted for.
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MS13 is real but it's hard to say specifically how real. There's been a major push between local prosecutors and ice to tag crime involving central and south American immigrant populations with that brush. It is real, but they try real hard to cast cases that way, and they're dishonest people.
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