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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

ate all the Oreos posted:

Look at this socialist paradise where retirement discharges loans. Work 'till you're dead then make sure your kids pay the rest, that's the American way :911:

Don't worry, because of the rapidly aging population and the advances in medical treatment, all our money is going to go on social care for our parents with dementia!

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LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

Zo posted:

guy buys a Ferrari and crashes it into a burning wreck after owning it for one hour

http://jalopnik.com/heres-what-it-cost-me-to-own-a-ferrari-for-a-year-1669923931

The above link seems like the best case scenario.


Rudager posted:

But I guess you guys are right, best the country scrap a scheme that makes further education financially available to everyone, only the rich should have that privilege after all.

The derail has evolved into a passive-aggressive derail!

ego symphonic
Feb 23, 2010


$400 for an oil change is somehow "not ridiculous." Exotic all cars are BWM.

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

I don't believe so and thank you for posting. This is the most China thing ever

Hoodwinker
Nov 7, 2005

LLCoolJD posted:

The derail has evolved into a passive-aggressive derail!

It's not very effective...

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Suspicious Lump posted:

You've got a couple things wrong. The highest repayment percentage is 8% for people earning >$101,900 . You can find the table here:
http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/payingbackmyloan/loan-repayment/pages/loan-repayment

Lower middle class is... about 60k in Australia. Repayment percentage would be 4% for income over 54k.

There is no interest, it's indexed to CPI.

It's a great system IMO. only complaint is it doesn't factor in household income into the equation.

That's based off tuition rates of about $6K though. My alma mater's in-state tuition is $15K this year, so the repayment rate would have to be significantly more, closer to 20% at the high income levels.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Fil5000 posted:

Don't worry, because of the rapidly aging population and the advances in medical treatment, all our money is going to go on social care for our parents with dementia!

Curse you NHS and your dratted efficiency! The USA has found a solution to poor people living too long (the US healthcare system.)

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

ego symphonic posted:

$400 for an oil change is somehow "not ridiculous." Exotic all cars are BWM.

There is a special kind of lunatic that purchases a used Ferrari. This breed of lunatic scrutinizes maintenance records and carfax for anything out of order or any indication a single thing was ever done to the car outside of a dealership. There are enough of these people that they set the market prices. And as you can guess, they want money off for all "infractions" of the perfect-maintenance-schedule-at-a-dealer regime.

So in the context of this car and what this guy was doing (buying it for a one-year project and then selling at the least loss possible) this was actually a rational move.

It's all insanely BWM, and cars like that are hobbies/toys, not investments and obviously not even close to being justified as a more expensive version of something someone could actually nee/use (a regular car).

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013
I don't even get the appeal of owning a Ferrari even if you are rich and can actually afford a hobby car.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

I suspect it's often "I've wanted to have a Ferrari since I was a kid", and not something that's cross-shopped.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

monster on a stick posted:

I don't even get the appeal of owning a Ferrari even if you are rich and can actually afford a hobby car.

If I ever magically become a multi millionaire I'm going to buy a Ferrari just to crash it

Something to do, you know?

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/4gjs1k/350k_medical_school_loan_debt_no_degree_no_degree/ posted:

$350k medical school loan debt, no degree, no degree prospects! What can/should I do? (self.personalfinance)

I'm a screwup! I've been dismissed from med school after failing the step 1 board exam. I did ok during my first 2 years, but was crippled by procrastination, would end up waiting until a week before the exam to starting to seriously study. Anyway, I passed all of my classes, but mostly by last-minute memorization, not really learning the material. This really caught up to me in 2014, after my second year, when beginning 2 months of dedicated prep for step 1. Anyway, I could never seem to get started studying, I postponed step 1, lied about why to add extra time, failed on 1st attempt in May 2015, delayed for another year, then finally kicked out after postponing the exam again last month. Like I said, I'm a complete gently caress-up! So at this point I have $350,000 in student loan debt, $100k in private loans from undergrad and postbacc, the rest federal loans for medical school. I have a B.A. in Biology, which currently qualifies me for tech jobs paying ~35k, or teaching, with similar salaries. Do I have any options for a career to pay off this debt? I've considered pharmacy or PA programs, but would need to complete 1-2 years of pre-req courses, but I seriously doubt I'd be admitted if I disclose my medical school failure, with a 3.25 undergrad GPA. Do I have any options for escaping this complete mess I've made of my life?

I'm legit glad this person got dismissed from medical school, "crippling procrastination" does not sound like a good quality in a doctor.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Subjunctive posted:

I suspect it's often "I've wanted to have a Ferrari since I was a kid", and not something that's cross-shopped.

Don't they restrict some models to 'legacy' owners, creating scarcity even if you have the means to buy one?

Ferrari's are like Rolex's. They don't make fiscal sense, but boy howdy the people who really like them are the ones with the money.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013
May as well do another, this is BWM but not in the way you'd initially suspect

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6pyhin/ex_gf_and_i_split_up_while_owning_a_home_i_signed/ posted:

Ex GF and I split up while owning a home. I signed over title with promise of being repaid my investment upon sale of house. She now doesn't like that idea. I am still on the mortgage [Florida]

Girlfriend and I brought a house last August as a first home/ investment (up and coming neighborhood). Come April, she's had a change of heart on our relationship and we decide to end it. Everything is very cordial at this point. I asked her to pay me back $10k that I had put into the house and she does. I signed the title/deed over solely into her name so the selling process would be easier (she planned on selling soon). She says that once the sale goes through we can talk about dividing the profits between us proportionally, I say that's fine, she put down 100% of the down payment on the house, we split 50/50 the monthly payments, so she can keep whatever profits she gets from the house.

She tries to sell the house right away and gets a buyer but the deal falls through. It is now a few months later and she has the house for sale again. I talked to her the other day and said hey, let me know when you sell the house so I can get the money that I had paid into the mortgage for the time that I was there and we were co-owners (only approx 8 months). She tells me that she thinks I should look at it as "rent" and that I shouldn't expect to get any money back from her.

So here's my question, the house is solely in her name now, I never took my name off of the mortgage. I am still listed as the primary borrower and she is the co-borrower. Do I hold any power whatsoever in the finalizing of the mortgage loan that I could use to get her to pay me back what I paid into the loan? I'm pretty discouraged about all this. I paid a bit more than $7000 in those 8 months and was fully expecting to see it again (that's the point of buying a house, right?).

Thanks for the help

Of course people ask if he got this promise that he'd get repaid in writing.

quote:

Yes, we did file a quit claim deed. on the line referencing the consideration, we had written in $10k, which is what she had paid me back at that point. Interestingly, I just went to the online records dept and looked up the quit claim and it has the $10k crossed out and written in "1/2 of $227k". That was done after I signed the form. On the typed up summary of the quit claim deed (done by the filer I'm assuming) it lists the consideration as $113.5k. Any idea what that means? I believe the $227k was the exact number that we financed.

quote:

It means you have something in writing to show that she owes you $113.5k.

So OP paid half the mortgage for a few months and in exchange is now legally owned $113.5k since it says that as the consideration on the quit claim deed. In this case, it's the ex who made this correction on the quit claim that is holy hell BWM.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

monster on a stick posted:

I'm legit glad this person got dismissed from medical school, "crippling procrastination" does not sound like a good quality in a doctor.

Another good case for student loans being able to be discharged in bankruptcy, though. This guy is never in his whole life going to be able to pay these loans off, and he failed so he can't use the degree.

OctaviusBeaver
Apr 30, 2009

Say what now?
I like how they think there's going to be a "profit" on a house they owned for 8 months.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

Zo posted:

guy buys a Ferrari and crashes it into a burning wreck after owning it for one hour

if it's a super rich guy then whatever but from the sounds of it im guessing it's probably a normal, sort of wealthy guy with a mid life crisis since the super rich don't need to "pick up" cars from dealerships (they have people who do that poo poo)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40748897

I doubt it, picking up a new car from the dealer is one of the best parts about owning sweet sports cars. Especially a rare collectible 430 Scuderia like this one. Really sad because it was very limited production and obviously irreplaceable n

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

OctaviusBeaver posted:

I like how they think there's going to be a "profit" on a house they owned for 8 months.

I hadn't even closed on mine and I was offered a six-figure premium by another buyer. Some markets move quickly.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

Solice Kirsk posted:

Gonna go out on a limb and guess this was the first car that had more than 300hp that he's ever driven.

Probably not, a 430 Scuderia is not like a starter Ferrari, it's a race car with few creature comforts and also like twice as expensive as a plain old F430

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

OctaviusBeaver posted:

I like how they think there's going to be a "profit" on a house they owned for 8 months.

Dude, the guy put 10k in alone. Those kinds of renovations have a x10 multiplier.

They're totally going to short sell and he's going to owe more money.

Per
Feb 22, 2006
Hair Elf

monster on a stick posted:

So OP paid half the mortgage for a few months and in exchange is now legally owned $113.5k since it says that as the consideration on the quit claim deed. In this case, it's the ex who made this correction on the quit claim that is holy hell BWM.

I don't quite get it. Did she try to somehow screw him over by forging the document after he had signed it (but it backfired on her)?

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Per posted:

I don't quite get it. Did she try to somehow screw him over by forging the document after he had signed it (but it backfired on her)?

You got it right, and she massively screwed it up. She can either pay him a ton of money, or admit that she changed a notarized document after the fact which is fraud. She's pretty much hosed now that she's decided to play games with her ex.

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

Subjunctive posted:

I hadn't even closed on mine and I was offered a six-figure premium by another buyer. Some markets move quickly.

I read this in a Canadian accent.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

LLCoolJD posted:

I read this in a Canadian accent.

Yep.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!



I'm not an expert horse-ologist, but I am skeptical that they would enjoy the sensation of walking on marble.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Doc Hawkins posted:

I'm not an expert horse-ologist, but I am skeptical that they would enjoy the sensation of walking on marble.

$100,000 racehorse slips and dies on polished marble floor. The price of luxury.

potee
Jul 23, 2007

Or, you know.

Not fine.

BarbarianElephant posted:

$100,000 racehorse slips and dies on polished marble floor. The price of luxury.

Rip Marbles, he saw his own reflection and died

Hoodwinker
Nov 7, 2005

monster on a stick posted:

You got it right, and she massively screwed it up. She can either pay him a ton of money, or admit that she changed a notarized document after the fact which is fraud. She's pretty much hosed now that she's decided to play games with her ex.
Even if it wasn't notarized yet, I believe all contract amendments have to be dated and initialed in order to be valid. Otherwise people could just cross poo poo out and say it was the other person (exactly like this). If they do this and forge that person's initials, then it becomes fraud.

Fakedit: those horses look like something out of a Stanley Kubrick film.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Doc Hawkins posted:

I'm not an expert horse-ologist, but I am skeptical that they would enjoy the sensation of walking on marble.

That's a viewing gallery for owners. The horses don't walk there.

Virtue
Jan 7, 2009

monster on a stick posted:

I'm legit glad this person got dismissed from medical school, "crippling procrastination" does not sound like a good quality in a doctor.

Failing out of med school is quite a feat. Literally the 1%

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Subjunctive posted:

I hadn't even closed on mine and I was offered a six-figure premium by another buyer. Some markets move quickly.

Isn't your previous market "San Francisco" though? That's a pretty massive outlier

Doc Hawkins posted:

I'm not an expert horse-ologist, but I am skeptical that they would enjoy the sensation of walking on marble.

It looks like all they have in their pens is a rubber mat, I'd think the horses would be terribly bored and uncomfortable the whole time.

Hoodwinker
Nov 7, 2005

ate all the Oreos posted:

Isn't your previous market "San Francisco" though? That's a pretty massive outlier


It looks like all they have in their pens is a rubber mat, I'd think the horses would be terribly bored and uncomfortable the whole time.
My initial thought was that it would smell like poo poo in there. (Am I talking about SF or the horse museum? You decide.)

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

ate all the Oreos posted:

Isn't your previous market "San Francisco" though? That's a pretty massive outlier

No, I never owned a house in the Bay Area.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Virtue posted:

Failing out of med school is quite a feat. Literally the 1%

They were in DO school too

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


monster on a stick posted:

You got it right, and she massively screwed it up. She can either pay him a ton of money, or admit that she changed a notarized document after the fact which is fraud. She's pretty much hosed now that she's decided to play games with her ex.

Goddamn, that's some M Night Shyamalan level twist right there. He's bad with money but she's so bad with money that it somehow makes him good with money? :confuoot:

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Hoodwinker posted:

Even if it wasn't notarized yet, I believe all contract amendments have to be dated and initialed in order to be valid. Otherwise people could just cross poo poo out and say it was the other person (exactly like this). If they do this and forge that person's initials, then it becomes fraud.

Let's say that I'm a terrible fraudster and I change some figures on a document and initial it with the initials of all parties. How do you prove fraud? Do I hope that you've thrown away your copy if you had one? Does someone who claims to analyze handwriting get to testify?

I'm genuinely curious how this stuff gets handled because it MUST come up occasionally.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Volmarias posted:

Let's say that I'm a terrible fraudster and I change some figures on a document and initial it with the initials of all parties. How do you prove fraud? Do I hope that you've thrown away your copy if you had one? Does someone who claims to analyze handwriting get to testify?

I'm genuinely curious how this stuff gets handled because it MUST come up occasionally.

Notaries make copies (at least every time I've had something notarized, they make a photocopy), so whoever notarized the original document will have the original version with "$10K" on it. If the document has an obvious change, then the change itself has to be notarized as well, and the notary would have a copy of that.

It would be a big deal if the notary was in on it, as in they'd be criminally liable for whatever fraud was taking place.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

I read the six figure offer in a Chinese accent.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Dillbag posted:

I read the six figure offer in a Chinese accent.

Unknown.

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Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Some guy posts a lot of words justifying his failed market timing attempt.

quote:

In this series, I (Jin Choi) talk about my goal of reaching $1 million in my TFSA (Roth IRA equivalent) account by 2033...

At the end of June, I had $46,583 in my TFSA account, which was down by 14.3% during the month. By comparison, the Canadian stock market went down by 0.8% while the U.S. stock market went down by 3.3% in Canadian dollar terms. Therefore, my portfolio underperformed in June.

1775 words of masturbatory post hoc rationalization and deep thoughts on geopolitics follows to be capped off by some face-saving bullshit:

quote:

Lastly, let me just clarify that my TFSA account does not reflect the nature of my overall investment portfolio. To give you an idea, I hold more than 10% of my assets in cash. I also own some corporate bonds as well as stocks in a diverse set of industries. I’m actually trying to think of ways to derisk my overall portfolio further. My TFSA portfolio will continue to hold risky stocks, but I may increase my allocation towards cash, bonds and gold related stocks in the months ahead.

My favorite bit that's almost thread-title worthy:

quote:

I’m coming to realize that my approach to valuing oil and gas companies may have been wrong

I can literally metaphorically hear the tubas going *womp womp* in the background

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