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Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
why don't they just give kids HGH to make them grow

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Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS

Ein cooler Typ posted:

why don't they just give kids HGH to make them grow

don't need to, the genetically modified with human genome carp produce the HGH required for healthy child. hot carp good for healthy

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Haier posted:

One place I lived, the neighbors would put their garbage bags on the balcony and let them pile up until one of them was willing to take it to the central cans in the hall. The smell on hot days when I opened my door, wow. Also the roaches.

Back when I lived in student housing (here in Finland), there was a pair of Chinese dudes living in the flat below mine. The next summer I noticed there were a lot of flies around, like "open a window and you'll have 150 flies in your flat" a lot.

The balconies in the building had this weird translucent glass from about waist height to the floor, so you could kinda see vague shadows of things that were on the balcony. So I knew they had a bunch of stuff on their balcony, but no idea what it could've been. Until one day the pile got so high that it was obvious even from the street that their balcony was in fact stocked (at this point) to about chest height with garbage bags and rotting cardboard and there was a huge cloud of flies buzzing around it and nesting in the stucco walls.

I went down to tell them to clean their poo poo, but they literally just stared at me as I was trying to explain to them that this poo poo doesn't fly. No effect, naturally. So I complained to the housing authority, and in response they sent an open email to all the students living in student housing in the city, reminding them very politely that trash should be taken down to the garbage bins in the street (literally 5 meters from the front door).

About a month later, in mid August, I noticed one day that the garbage pile had at least been lowered a bit and for a moment dared hope that the two idiots were carting their poo poo out to the bins. Those hopes were dashed the moment I opened the door to the lobby and was greeted with the putrid stench of rotten ... filth. A huge maggoty pile of garbage had in fact been dumped in the hallway outside their door.

The two moved out shortly afterwards, at which point builders came and tore their apartment down to the concrete, because apparently everything was so filthy and the walls were encrusted with nicotene that literally nothing could be reused for the next tenants.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Der Shovel posted:

and in response they sent an open email to all the students living in student housing in the city, reminding them very politely that trash should be taken down to the garbage bins in the street (literally 5 meters from the front door).

passive aggressive cowardice mixed with PC culture FTW

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Shenzhen was ok today, too hot and kinda pollutey. Just had a real lazy afternoon with too much food for lunch and for dinner and beer somewhere in the middle. There's not much to do anyway in 木头 lung (forgot final character of the place)

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
A little late on the backpackers chat but I, too, despise them. Especially when it's rear end in a top hat to elbows on my commute to work and some oblivious German is wearing, what appears to be, a backpack for climbing the alps (based on the amount of space it takes up on his back.)

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010




quote:

On Weibo, the news story is referred to with the Chinese expression “Jiànfèng Chāzhēn” (见缝插针), which literally means “to see a gap and stick in a needle”

I figured out Haier's Chinese name


Kharnifex posted:

Save me own face dibbler

:sbahj:

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
HAIER BORING SATURDAY BLOG POSTING:
I am suffering from a nasal infection and on two different non-TCM nasal sprays, which have taken away my ability to taste and smell completely. I would probably find my room unbearable due to the smell of the smog (like car exhaust), but I stayed home all day except for a trip to the supermarket, and cooked a meal I couldn't taste. I loaded it up on chilis hoping it would unload my nose, but it had zero effect.

I was having a mild fever and decided to go walk and sweat it out tonight. The medicines plus my fever made everything outside really slow and the lights kinda bright, and the music I was listening to seemed like it was from some other dimension. All those flashy building lights and less people outside made for a really cool walk. I was staring at a lot of buildings and spacing out, feeling weird as heck. I decided to jog, which I haven't done in a while, so I could sweat more. I got soaked, it owned. The fever hit a peak and I immediately felt better. I kept jogging and did about 3km, total walk was 9km, so it was a decent use of time.

Oh yeah, there was a Face Off. I was walking down the foot bridge when to shirtless sweaty dudes arrived at the bottom. One guy stopped and looked up at me and we made eye contact. He started walking up the stairs in a direct path to me, obviously some face bullshit where he wants to assert himself and make me move out of the way. I wasn't going to go for that, but seeing how slimy the dude was, I was rethinking my idea of trying to win this match to avoid some staph infection if we collided. At the very last moment he sideways stepped around me. I won.
I hate how every small thing in this idiotic culture becomes a needlessly and uselessly passive-aggressive game with no real result except for all the times people die from it. In my daze tonight, I was watching everyone move around and I thought "None of this makes anything easier, it only makes life here harder. They loving love to make everything difficult for themselves."

Der Shovel posted:

A huge maggoty pile of garbage had in fact been dumped in the hallway outside their door.
LOL. This is usually the "respectable" way to remove your garbage in China. Throw it out the door and forget about it, and maybe take it to the main bin when leaving, or expect the hall sweeper to throw it out for you (this is the even more respectable choice). They were doing all they've been raised to do, since they were male and living abroad, which means mommy and daddy have money. They've probably never had to lift a finger at home, and never will after marriage or older age. We wonder why Mainlanders often lack empathy, and sometimes it's just because they've never been in anyone else's shoes.

Anyway, imagine how disgusting Mainland apartments are. It took me two weeks to clean mine with degreaser before I found it livable and would move in.

simplefish posted:

Shenzhen was ok today, too hot and kinda pollutey.
AQI of 150-170 today. It's over 170 as I type. If there is no rain, it just continues to rise and rise until winds and rain come. The most I have seen here has been about 250-300 sometime during a dry period earlier this year. I believe much of it is just blowing down from Guangzhou.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Oh yeah, i don't know if anyone else's VPNs are doing this, but on my Windows version of Vypr for like five days now it won't let me use Google search, Youtube, and often Facebook. Some of the servers won't work at all for anything. I have to use Bing now and it sucks, and most of the websites it links won't load.

It still works fine for Android.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Der Shovel posted:


The two moved out shortly afterwards, at which point builders came and tore their apartment down to the concrete, because apparently everything was so filthy and the walls were encrusted with nicotene that literally nothing could be reused for the next tenants.

The Chinese teacher at my first school in Korea gave his apartment a similar treatment. All the provided furniture had to be thrown out, they ripped everything down to the cement, and even had to remove tiling in the bathroom because of the piss-penetration.

Chinese bachelor's are the most disgusting/destructive creatures on the planet when it comes to rental properties.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Let's have some good mongolian wrestling. Hey Haier, show that to the Mongol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyxFsQEURMM

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

There's a ton of international students in my city, both for highschool and university. I've known a lot of people who host home-stays or rent out a basement apartment to them, and it's fairly universally accepted that you really try to get a japanese lady because the place will be clean, maybe even cleaner than when she moved in and generally so quiet you don't even know they are there. It's also know that chinese boys will be trouble, either messy, socially awkward, or will end up in hosed up car/driving related legal problems. They will never talk to you and act like they're so shy they're maybe autistic, they will politely nod while staring into space when you explain any sort of house rules or how to use appliances or where you can park or where the garbage goes, then totally ignore it all and do the opposite, and no amount of explaining or demanding will change it. One friend had to kick a guy out because he kept flushing garbage down the toilet. The first time, ok, maybe he didn't know you can't flush like paper towel and poo poo down the toilet? The 2nd time, the 3rd time, the 4th time?? Never an apology, just stare into space and nod, "yes, I understand" then right back into it. No reaction on getting kicked out either, just quietly went and packed up, left a ton of garbage and dirty laundry behind, and moved onto the next place his parents paid for.

But it's just the guys, ladies can be messy, they can be noisy, they can break the rules and cause trouble just like anyone, but you can always at least have a human to human conversation with them. You don't get this autistic force field.

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012
I met a cool guy called Frank in high school that actually liked talking to people and he went off to study visual art or something, but the other china boys were like they got mummified. Just assuming you mean vancouver because where the hell else

Hmm, other international chinese boys in my high school were:
severely mentally ill programmer guy that is both a hardcore libertarian and also a CCP tankie (not zombie),
son of the richest man in Yunnan who drove a bentley around at age 17 (zombie),
tiny kid who's entire personally was centered around annoying other people who was picked up and tossed against a wall a few times (not zombie),
5 weebs (zombies),
1 weeb who is trying to create some kind of anime tittie trading company (not zombie)
plus around 20 guys I've completely forgotten

Slim Jim Pickens fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jul 29, 2017

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Baronjutter posted:

There's a ton of international students in my city, both for highschool and university. I've known a lot of people who host home-stays or rent out a basement apartment to them, and it's fairly universally accepted that you really try to get a japanese lady because the place will be clean, maybe even cleaner than when she moved in and generally so quiet you don't even know they are there. It's also know that chinese boys will be trouble, either messy, socially awkward, or will end up in hosed up car/driving related legal problems. They will never talk to you and act like they're so shy they're maybe autistic, they will politely nod while staring into space when you explain any sort of house rules or how to use appliances or where you can park or where the garbage goes, then totally ignore it all and do the opposite, and no amount of explaining or demanding will change it. One friend had to kick a guy out because he kept flushing garbage down the toilet. The first time, ok, maybe he didn't know you can't flush like paper towel and poo poo down the toilet? The 2nd time, the 3rd time, the 4th time?? Never an apology, just stare into space and nod, "yes, I understand" then right back into it. No reaction on getting kicked out either, just quietly went and packed up, left a ton of garbage and dirty laundry behind, and moved onto the next place his parents paid for.

But it's just the guys, ladies can be messy, they can be noisy, they can break the rules and cause trouble just like anyone, but you can always at least have a human to human conversation with them. You don't get this autistic force field.

I eat the fish. And I never burn trash.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


China: 5000 Years of Lobster Bucket

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
???, TAOYUAN, TAIWAN:



Link: Maps.Google

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
got the author of poorly made in china to call me an wu mao

https://twitter.com/paulmidler/status/891469503875371009

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax

Accretionist posted:

???, TAOYUAN, TAIWAN:



Link: Maps.Google

that is dank as gently caress, what is it?

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

angel opportunity posted:

got the author of poorly made in china to call me an wu mao

https://twitter.com/paulmidler/status/891469503875371009

lol

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

angel opportunity posted:

got the author of poorly made in china to call me an wu mao

https://twitter.com/paulmidler/status/891469503875371009

levon weis rise to internet superpower status continues unabated

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Baronjutter posted:

But it's just the guys, ladies can be messy, they can be noisy, they can break the rules and cause trouble just like anyone, but you can always at least have a human to human conversation with them. You don't get this autistic force field.

I don't know what the culture does to men over here. I've been in East Asia for seven years now and can count my male local friends, across China, Korea, and Japan, on one hand. The women are not nearly as messed up. Gay dudes are usually okay too, it's specifically a straight male problem.

The ones I met in college were okay, but you get a skewed sample in college since the only Chinese students you are ever going to meet are the ones who get out of the bubble and are already unusual.


I love the thinkpiece complaints about Jin Yang being problematic because the actor is from China and has said he's barely even acting, he literally just behaves like he did when he first came to the US at 13. Jin Yang rules.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
My friend just got back from a trip in Hangzhou. First thing he did was crack out his phone and show me photos of the piles of bikes. He couldn't shut up about what a mess it is there right now and how impossible it is to walk on the streets.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
chinas sharing economy is going to boost growth by 8.88%

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


A lot of the real good bike pile pics are from Hangzhou, it is weird. They're a problem in Chengdu but only some areas are rendered completely unusable by them.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
Funny, I was in the northeast not long ago and there was nary a bike. the big changes were Chinese Uber and phonepaying.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


I'm guessing a big part of the problem in Hangzhou is that everyone wants to ride a bike around the West Lake because it is ~~very famours~~. Then take the complete lack of fucks that the average person gives about not dumping shared bikes in retarded places in their own neighborhood, and multiply it by 888 when they're tourists at some place they'll never come back to.

I also noticed a distinct lack of shared bikes in big cities in the Northeast by comparison. It might have something to with the fact that who wants to ride a bike in the winter when it's -40 and the streets are ice pits of death.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

Grand Fromage posted:

I don't know what the culture does to men over here. I've been in East Asia for seven years now and can count my male local friends, across China, Korea, and Japan, on one hand. The women are not nearly as messed up. Gay dudes are usually okay too, it's specifically a straight male problem.

The ones I met in college were okay, but you get a skewed sample in college since the only Chinese students you are ever going to meet are the ones who get out of the bubble and are already unusual.


I love the thinkpiece complaints about Jin Yang being problematic because the actor is from China and has said he's barely even acting, he literally just behaves like he did when he first came to the US at 13. Jin Yang rules.
Wow
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/silicon-valley-stereotypes

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?



That was one of the dumb articles I was thinking of, good find.

Paladin
Nov 26, 2004
You lost today, kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it.


And I thought that dude had fallen off the map after the book was published.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Grand Fromage posted:

I don't know what the culture does to men over here. I've been in East Asia for seven years now and can count my male local friends, across China, Korea, and Japan, on one hand. The women are not nearly as messed up. Gay dudes are usually okay too, it's specifically a straight male problem.

The ones I met in college were okay, but you get a skewed sample in college since the only Chinese students you are ever going to meet are the ones who get out of the bubble and are already unusual.


I love the thinkpiece complaints about Jin Yang being problematic because the actor is from China and has said he's barely even acting, he literally just behaves like he did when he first came to the US at 13. Jin Yang rules.

there's that 'ask a korean' guy who writes about poo poo. korean-american, has a nontrivial philosophy background. so a little hobby-horse of that guy is to try to get people to blame poo poo about korea on things that are not confucianism. confucianism can't be the proximate cause of korea's super high suicide rate, forex, because that poo poo started in the 90's and... uh... confucianism didn't start in the 90's. and you can't blame people getting plastic surgery a lot on confucianism because a lot of that poo poo is completely economic competition

1 thing he blames 100% on confucianism is everyone being so loving misogynistic
he's right

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


curufinor posted:

1 thing he blames 100% on confucianism is everyone being so loving misogynistic
he's right

Yeah it's hard to get around that one. There are good parts of Confucian philosophy (though Neoconfucianism is pretty irredeemable) but the misogyny is really gross.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe
your college sample is also rich af
the rich ones double down on the misogyny or quit it
i'm in the quitting coalition or i try to be but i used to hang w/ some doubled down dudes

i know the reasons why r/hapas exists

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Grand Fromage posted:

Yeah it's hard to get around that one. There are good parts of Confucian philosophy (though Neoconfucianism is pretty irredeemable) but the misogyny is really gross.

neoconfucianism actually ends up referring to many philosophies. it was a governing philosophy so it was super flexible
some of it is "fygm: the philosophy", some of it was ok. it was all misogynistic

basically something like pro-market thinking
some of that is 'don't do communism', which is drat good advice
some of that is 'we should be able to sell heroin. also prostitutes. also we want a seastead with prostitutes and heroin. no step on snek', which is lolbad
it's all greedy

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


curufinor posted:

i know the reasons why r/hapas exists

Can you try to explain it from your perspective? It seems like this weird confluence of misogyny, incel, and racism but I don't really get why the angriest place on the internet is a forum of Asian-American dudes.

curufinor posted:

neoconfucianism actually ends up referring to many philosophies. it was a governing philosophy so it was super flexible
some of it is "fygm: the philosophy", some of it was ok. it was all misogynistic

I'm thinking like the Joseon era Neoconfucian garbage, which from what I've read is just purestrain FYGM like you say.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Grand Fromage posted:

Can you try to explain it from your perspective? It seems like this weird confluence of misogyny, incel, and racism but I don't really get why the angriest place on the internet is a forum of Asian-American dudes.

my match rate on tinder in the us is sub-1%
my match rate in singapore when i was staying there was 40%
my match rate in korea was a solid 25%
(coffee meets bagel match rate better, i think entirely because i went to a drat good school lol)

so there's a nonzero amount of racism towards us asian dudes, so what, black dudes deal

actually they don't really but not by being r/incel supercharged. lotta misogyny in the black community too but it comes out differently

the difference is the r/hapas have (a comparatively large amount of, but not objectively large amount of) money and a lotta loving bourgeosie sensibility
and one of the central bourgeosie sensibilities is that getting married well is super loving important
it's this class of educated frustrated bourgeoisie which is the entire set of revolutionaries. no such thing as a successful revolutionary who's actually bona fide poor. and the size of this educated frustrated bourgeoisie depends upon the amount of wealth. it's because these folks have a pretention towards power cuz they have a little bit of money

peter turchin does an analysis of it being a finite supply of power but an increasing demand for power making people do astonishing poo poo to get power. like getting into a 13-man or whatever primary and making red hats and not killing yourself like you probably should when a drat pussy tape comes out. or shoving a billion loving dollars to your cult leader and listening to what she tells you about which coats to wear and what to say in speeches and to put little purses on trees for holidays when that's not a thing anywhere. because if you get money you want power, and there's a lot more inequality in money than there was 40 years ago in every society we're talking about. more money objectively, but money is power-law distributed so a lot more inequality in money

but if you don't see women as actual people, you do something analogous with women. so the more sex is happening, the more inequality in sex there ends up being, just like the inequality in money and power. sex is also ~ power law, someone should do gini coefficients. widespread nonserial monogamy ameliorates the inequality (at terrible human cost) (just like bans on usury, also tried by bronze age shepherding communities and thrown away) but lol at calling what happens in modern countries widespread monogamy

tbh, the sex doesn't matter, imo. read eric hoffer's the true believer for his speculation why, which i buy: the fanaticism is the thing, and derives from a increasing demand for power and completely constant or even lowering supply thereof. of course these folks construe sex as power tho. that attitude towards power demands an unyielding attitude towards ambiguity, a total abnegation thereof. so being half-foreign-devil-in-the-crazy-bits-of-east-asian-social-politics kinda sucks a lot if you're also supposed to kill your ability to stand ambiguity. this happens a lot in totalitarian ideology, it doesn't end well.

i think what saved me personally is i have a huge ability to stand ambiguity. it kills my ability to make decisions quick but it helps my decision calculus a lot in practice

weaponized razor-hot misogyny is one of the many attempted totalitarian mass movements running around, in addition to the

cults (incl. weirdo and crazy christianity),
super-loving right wing poo poo,
super-loving left wing poo poo,
death march corporatism,
whatever loving thing gwyneth paltrow is doing with the eggs and poo poo and not vaccinating kids,
getting really loving high on suspicious research chemicals instead of engaging in life,
s/research chemicals/smack/g,
etc etc. and just like the others this hapa incel poo poo is pretty totalitarian, you can figure out a loving incel way to eat cheetos somewhere i bet.

if you think i'm like talking about some weimar germany poo poo it's because i'm talking some weimar germany poo poo. despite the famed inflation, the upper-middle and upper class in that time and place made out like bandits and the competition for power grew radically

i won't get too paranoid until more weimar germany poo poo happens, but it sure might

curufinor fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Jul 30, 2017

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Grand Fromage posted:

Can you try to explain it from your perspective? It seems like this weird confluence of misogyny, incel, and racism but I don't really get why the angriest place on the internet is a forum of Asian-American dudes.


I'm thinking like the Joseon era Neoconfucian garbage, which from what I've read is just purestrain FYGM like you say.

There's a Steam VN game based on that stuff (Analogue: A Hate Story), and from what it sounded like that era of rights for women was extremely regressive where even slaves were technically better treated then wives and daughters. Like it was something out of The Handmaid's tale where women weren't even taught how to read.

Jesus Christ everything about that era on Wikipedia makes it look like a complete hellhole.

quote:

Before the introduction of modern medicine by the Korean Empire government in the early 20th century, the average life expectancy for peasant and commoner Korean males was 24 and for females 26 years

16th-century court physician, Heo Jun wrote a number of medical texts, his most significant achievement being Dongeui Bogam, which is often noted as the defining text of Traditional Korean medicine. The work spread to China and Japan, where it is still regarded as one of the classics of Oriental medicine today.

The roles and rights of women were reduced compared to previous eras in Korean history. Yangban women were completely hidden from the outer world and every woman had to conform to Confucian ideals of purity, obedience, chastity and faithfulness. Women were subjects of male dominance throughout their lives, obliged to listen to their fathers, husbands, fathers-in-law and firstborn sons. Homes were divided into male and female quarters to separate the sexes.

Women had to conform to Confucian ideals, as children they were subordinated to their fathers, when they married, to their husbands, and when they got old, to their firstborn son. Being virtuous, modest, obedient and faithful was required of them; virtuous women were rewarded by the state from 1434. Yangban noblewomen were completely segregated from the rest of society. During the day they could not leave their homes, and if they had to, they were transported in a litter called gama (가마). They were forbidden to play games and have fun outside their homes or they could be beaten.

Most women were illiterate, as schools taught men exclusively. Even after the introduction of hangul, when literacy improved, women who could read and write made up only 4% as late as the 19th century. Women of the yangban could receive an education from within the family, for instance the 18th century crown princess Lady Hyegyeong was taught to read and write hangul by an aunt-in-law.[25] Women were not allowed to learn hanja, the Chinese characters used to write Korean. Women were also denied the right to participate in the jesa, the ancestor honoring rituals, which is also a significant divergence from the original Chinese practices.[

Women had to obey their husbands and in-laws and had no right to apply for a divorce. Men could divorce their wives based on the chilgeojiak (칠거지악), the "seven sins": disobedience towards in-laws, inability to bear a son, adultery, jealousy, hereditary disease, talkativeness and theft

As women could not be the heads of a household anymore, widows often were considered financial burdens and sometimes driven to commit suicide. Women were expected to protect their virtue at any cost, and by the late Joseon era they often wore small knives called paedo (패도, 佩刀) attached to the norigae (the colourful pendant hanging from the upper part of the hanbok), to commit suicide rather than dishonor their families even by giving cause to gossips

Not really surprised that barely 120 years later there are still insane levels of internalized sexism in Korea given every adult around the age of 50 probably heard stories about the good old days when women did women's work, obeyed the men, and killed themselves if they were the slightest burden on others.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Jul 30, 2017

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


pentyne posted:

There's a Steam VN game based on that stuff (Analogue: A Hate Story), and from what it sounded like that era of rights for women was extremely regressive where even slaves were technically better treated then wives and daughters. Like it was something out of The Handmaid's tale where women weren't even taught how to read.

Joseon treatment of women makes Saudi Arabia look progressive. There are still tons of sayings in Korean about how daughters are worthless parasites. Every female Korean friend I have has at least one family member, usually a grandmother, who just loving loathes them for being :females: and abused them for their entire lives over it.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Grand Fromage posted:

Joseon treatment of women makes Saudi Arabia look progressive. There are still tons of sayings in Korean about how daughters are worthless parasites. Every female Korean friend I have has at least one family member, usually a grandmother, who just loving loathes them for being :females: and abused them for their entire lives over it.

korean misogyny is pretty much 2/3 promulgated by the women, in my experience. maybe 4/5
it's kind of strange to think about but pretty typical i think

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


curufinor posted:

korean misogyny is pretty much 2/3 promulgated by the women, in my experience. maybe 4/5
it's kind of strange to think about but pretty typical i think

Mom/grandma always seem way worse. And the mother-in-law thing in Korea is loving bananas. Dad's usually cool, when he's around.

And thanks for the effortpost, I don't have anything to say about it in reply.

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curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe
just gotta say if any really great incel/hapa orators come about and rise meteorically in politics, you should just check on your baggage and make secret compartments and maybe smuggle some gold out of the country

uh i may have done something similar cuz of the orangeman

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