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Yeah the PT deck choosing can get into fun increasingly complicated logic loops. Is this the best deck? Does every team find this? Did we break the format? Is everyone else tossing their percentages vs other decks to beat our deck because they think everyone will play it?
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born on a buy you posted:The PT meta isnt always representative of the ensuing meta because the small field and team set up leads to a lot of counter brewing that doesn’t necessarily happen in the field at large Yeah especially when you consider that the guys/teams at the top tables are also all acquainted and talk to each other and share data directly and indirectly, it's really insular
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born on a buy you posted:The PT meta isnt always representative of the ensuing meta because the small field and team set up leads to a lot of counter brewing that doesn’t necessarily happen in the field at large Yeah, but now with less information about what decks are consistently doing well this at least in the short term is going to certainly lead to a HUGE jump in red deck % of the meta, especially if it wins. I'm not saying that's bad or an untenable situation but people are going to flock to what they can see the pros doing. This really only goes for standard, since every set printed shakes up the eternal formats, albeit very slightly.
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AceClown posted:He's also decided to become a pro wrestler not an emptyquote
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Jul 29, 2017 22:46
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Too bad the white god never caught on but I am glad Hazoret did. I hope it keeps going up and up. The playset I got for nothing is going to get me modern staples.
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Jul 30, 2017 00:49
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PV on 5 3 games in a row... Unbelieveable.
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Jul 30, 2017 01:45
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Holy poo poo did abrade jump in price. This was a 30 cent card not long ago. Earth shaker is spiking. Falkenrath Gorger is next. So many copies in the top 8 for a bulk card. Sell/trade your gorgers as hard as you can if they spike. Sickening fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Jul 30, 2017 |
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Sickening posted:Holy poo poo did abrade jump in price. This was a 30 cent card not long ago. Earth shaker is spiking. Abrade was the most obviously underpriced card in the set. I bought a play set for 3.50 last week.
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Jul 30, 2017 01:57
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This feels like Modern. Every game is 5 turns long.
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Jul 30, 2017 02:05
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mcmagic posted:This feels like Modern. Every game is 5 turns long. Did seth miss the haz ability with the magma spray?
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Sickening posted:Did seth miss the haz ability with the magma spray? He was still 1 damage short.
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Sickening posted:Did seth miss the haz ability with the magma spray? No, PV would be at 3 after attacks and Seth only had 4 mana, so he could discard one card to bring PV to 1, and use the Spray to stop the vehicle from being crewed.
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Jul 30, 2017 02:09
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Apparently PV's life total said 2 when he was actually at 3. But you know, not like that's relevant against mono-red!
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Jul 30, 2017 02:09
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Never thought I would tune into a mtg pro tour after a decade of not playing and seeing two rdw going at each other. Control is dead?
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mcmagic posted:This feels like Modern. Every game is 5 turns long. I think this is a trait of good formats. Can't have degenerate interactions if they die instantly for trying.
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constructed quality card sand strangler
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What if we had Psully in the booth instead of cheon here? Would it be the best commentary ever?
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Hazoret is so good. lol
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I just like how dorkly energetic Cheon and Knight are in their commentary. 
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Only way Hornet Queen Boy isn't POTY is if PV wins the whole thing. GO PV!!!!!
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funmanguy posted:Never thought I would tune into a mtg pro tour after a decade of not playing and seeing two rdw going at each other. A new set came out a 2 weeks ago that made the mono red deck really strong so everyone is playing it. I didn't even know that the Hazoret play at the end was something you could do.
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Tainen posted:A new set came out a 2 weeks ago that made the mono red deck really strong so everyone is playing it. It's more than just that. Literally the only decks that did well this weekend are aggro...
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Jul 30, 2017 02:21
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Tainen posted:A new set came out a 2 weeks ago that made the mono red deck really strong so everyone is playing it. Ah ok, that makes more sense. The last mtg thing I watched was PT kaladesh, which has some fun blue decks to watch. Edit: I'm looking up the formats right now, am I wrong in thinking that its very unusual to have 5 banned cards in standard? I was playing T2 when mirroden and urzas saga came out, bad memories. funmanguy fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Jul 30, 2017 |
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Jul 30, 2017 02:22
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Hearing this news, I'm kinda glad I picked up three Hazoret the Fervents and one Hazoret the Pervert early.
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funmanguy posted:Ah ok, that makes more sense. The last mtg thing I watched was PT kaladesh, which has some fun blue decks to watch. Yes, standard was hosed, ANY banning is rare, five is historic
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Skyl3lazer posted:Yes, standard was hosed, ANY banning is rare, five is historic Reflector Mage was a bad ban.
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Jul 30, 2017 02:28
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funmanguy posted:Edit: I'm looking up the formats right now, am I wrong in thinking that its very unusual to have 5 banned cards in standard? I was playing T2 when mirroden and urzas saga came out, bad memories. Lol you have missed quite a bit. The last year has been really rough for Standard. It seems to be mostly fixed at the moment though.
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Tainen posted:Lol you have missed quite a bit. The last year has been really rough for Standard. It seems to be mostly fixed at the moment though. You say that, but im looking at the 7+ win decklists and seems like three or four flavors of agro. That seems abnormal too
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mcmagic posted:Reflector Mage was a bad ban. Reflector Mage was basically a Modern-style ban in Standard. Cause everyone loves how they use the Modern banlist so much.
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Jul 30, 2017 02:34
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Oh lord, they reprinted Shock.
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Jul 30, 2017 02:37
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funmanguy posted:Oh lord, they reprinted Shock. I love that the state of burn for the last several years has been such that "they reprinted Shock" is the new "they reprinted Lightning Bolt".
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Jul 30, 2017 02:46
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"Awesome, I get to use shock in my deck" -nobody ever
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Jul 30, 2017 02:48
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I will say, I thought it was going to be some boring rear end turning cards sideways but that PV game was loving boss. (On a side note, people love to purposely time out in competitive leagues when they lose, so i've been enjoying typing out all of Dangerfield's greats in chat to them to liven the spirits. If nothing else, I get a kick out of it - what's timing out going to do? I tabbed to watch the twitch stream anyways.....)
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It's been a while since I've watched a PT, but it seems like they have actually improved the quality of their coverage a decent amount? It feels way better than a year or two ago.
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Tainen posted:A new set came out a 2 weeks ago that made the mono red deck really strong so everyone is playing it. What was the play?
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poo poo; I only have two copies of Hazoret. Got one in a draft and bought one last week for $6.50. Oh well.
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Star Man posted:poo poo; I only have two copies of Hazoret. Got one in a draft and bought one last week for $6.50. Oh well. Save money don't play standard
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