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the dude that ambushed thernovitch didn't have the right tactic. the trick is to suck him off; that makes him gay.
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does that dire pathetical quality of the alt-right leaders actually reflect on the degeneracy of modern society? that the threat of "easy way out" ideology is reduced to anime nazis and mewling wimps who fancy themselves testerone-laden great ape breeding stock?
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Jul 30, 2017 08:17
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The 'easy way out' ideology was ALWAYS for pathetic and hosed up people who can't latch onto anything better.
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Jul 30, 2017 08:32
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Thernovich reminds me of a chipmunk somehow
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Jul 30, 2017 09:51
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Inescapable Duck posted:The 'easy way out' ideology was ALWAYS for pathetic and hosed up people who can't latch onto anything better. works out pretty well as an answer but I'm open to an alternative argument if it can better characterise all this nonsense
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:does that dire pathetical quality of the alt-right leaders actually reflect on the degeneracy of modern society? that the threat of "easy way out" ideology is reduced to anime nazis and mewling wimps who fancy themselves testerone-laden great ape breeding stock? Most of the leaders of the first wave of fascism were veterans. They were used to combat, skilled with firearms, and in reasonable physical shape. They were also, without exception, weirdo gently caress ups. Mussolini was a very mediocre socialist. He had a pet lion and a hard-on for big ugly monuments. Hitler was a failed artist AND a failed revolutionary. He believed a bunch of dumb racist mysticism. BECAUSE Fascism is the self-help nonsense of politics. All the system needs to work is bold decisive action and racial unity. Remember how great the system worked before those people showed up. If we get rid of them, things can go back to the way they used to be. It's all nothing more than racism, nostalgia, and The Secret. The whole appeal is that it doesn't require introspection or radical change. Sure, it's all really just rationalization for looting, but it's a very empowering and comforting when your economy sucks.
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Jul 30, 2017 11:37
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BrainParasite posted:All the system needs to work is bold decisive action and racial unity. Remember how great the system worked before those people showed up. If we get rid of them, things can go back to the way they used to be. It's all nothing more than racism, nostalgia, and The Secret. this, but, instead of racial unity and racism it's class solidarity and hatred of rich people
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Jul 30, 2017 12:04
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i still don't understand how cernovich became an alt right leader sounding like that
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deadgoon posted:this, but, instead of racial unity and racism it's class solidarity and hatred of rich people Far left politics generally want to restructure economic and social systems explicitly. This is not nostalgic and openly acknowledged as difficult. Also, equating class struggle with racial conflict takes a very special kind of stupidity. In one, the blame for social and economic ills is assigned to the people and institutions in power. In the other, the blame is laid on minority communities with very little or very tenuous power. (Yeah, deadgoon is trolling, but I've seen this argument enough it should get a response.)
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Jul 30, 2017 13:24
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It's sort of a false equivalence from the get go: nowhere will you ever find Marx talking about the bourgeoisie, in the same way as racialists talk about migrants or whatever. There's none of the judgmental or outright fabricated bullshit, and even an element of their acceptance as historical necessity ("historically, the bourgeoisie has played a most revolutionary role"). It's just that the system they are a part of has outlived its usefulness.
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Al! posted:[while being dragged away screaming] "IT WATH EBEBOTHILE PORNOGRATHY"
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rudatron posted:It's sort of a false equivalence from the get go: nowhere will you ever find Marx talking about the bourgeoisie, in the same way as racialists talk about migrants or whatever. There's none of the judgmental or outright fabricated bullshit, and even an element of their acceptance as historical necessity ("historically, the bourgeoisie has played a most revolutionary role"). It's just that the system they are a part of has outlived its usefulness.
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Jul 30, 2017 14:07
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Jose posted:i still don't understand how cernovich became an alt right leader sounding like that have you heard the rest of them
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Jul 30, 2017 14:22
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Also yeah deadgoon is trolling but remember that with the most murderous far-left regimes, well it wasn't racism exactly, but they didn't always come up with clearly-defined or (to use a Marxist term) "concrete" categories for the people they eliminated. Well, you look a little fishy... 
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Jul 30, 2017 14:26
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That was more a feature of authoritarianism than capitalism. No one's saying the Philippines massacres are somehow a result of leftist influence on an otherwise capitalist government, last I checked. The American gulags are called private prisons.
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Jul 30, 2017 14:36
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I'd question communists in how by seeing the world through the prism of class conflict, once in power, they end up inventing class enemies that are defined pretty arbitrarily. Case in point is kulaks, or those targeted by the Khmer Rouge. Communist regimes in the past did this in different ways. Or even just minor parties. In Richard Wright's essay on joining, growing disillusioned with, and leaving the CPUSA in the 30s, he talks a lot about how he was denounced as "bourgeois" because of his educated speaking style, though he was a starving artist from rural Mississippi who never graduated high school.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Also yeah deadgoon is trolling but remember that with the most murderous far-left regimes, well it wasn't racism exactly, but they didn't always come up with clearly-defined or (to use a Marxist term) "concrete" categories for the people they eliminated. This is a superficial similarity. Both fascism and socialism require a redistribution of property, which pretty much requires violence. Conversely, capitalism enforces established relationships with property by violence. This violence falls on the working class, but that violence can't be talked about explicitly because you'd have a revolution there and then.
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Now I'm really about to step in it, and this isn't some vulgar "cultural Marxist" accusation like what comes from the alt-right, but reading Wright's experiences reminds me *a lot* of the Tumblr crowd in how they're constantly sniffing around for any hint that someone is privileged, often for totally selective and arbitrary reasons that could apply to anyone in the group. In the CPUSA, it was "bourgeois" and whether you got sniffed for signs of it depended on whether you were in the good graces of the party boss at that moment. Then you'd denounce yourself in front of the group.BrainParasite posted:This is a superficial similarity. Both fascism and socialism require a redistribution of property, which pretty much requires violence.
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You're basically talking tribalism. It's a sign of degeneracy inside a leftist movement and a feature of every single rightwing one.
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Jul 30, 2017 15:49
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not to mention that liberals are adopting witch hunt methods for vaguely defined enemies as well. it has way more to do with siege mentality than anything else.
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Jul 30, 2017 16:22
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Jose posted:i still don't understand how cernovich became an alt right leader sounding like that he worked really hard at it and is a very dedicated scam artist
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Jose posted:i still don't understand how cernovich became an alt right leader sounding like that The magical power of gorilla semen.
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Jul 30, 2017 16:29
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Darkman Fanpage posted:he worked really hard at it and is a very dedicated scam artist he got a huge amount of alimony from his rich ex-wife and with all his free time spent posting on twitter and making youtube videos
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Jul 30, 2017 16:35
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:not to mention that liberals are adopting witch hunt methods for vaguely defined enemies as well. it has way more to do with siege mentality than anything else. if i remember right, it's considered acceptable to massacre the population and sack the city if the besieged fails to surrender following the creation of a practicable breach in the wall. still true?
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Grand Prize Winner posted:if i remember right, it's considered acceptable to massacre the population and sack the city if the besieged fails to surrender following the creation of a practicable breach in the wall. still true? If the attacker wins a siege they can pretty much do whatever they want.
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Jul 30, 2017 17:01
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Peel posted:have you heard the rest of them I forget that Lauren southern has an unusually deep voice Also https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/891506920061849604?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Jose posted:I forget that Lauren southern has an unusually deep voice is she doing that elizabeth holmes deepened voice for authority thing?
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Jul 30, 2017 18:01
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She soft butch
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Jul 30, 2017 19:13
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Actually I might've gotten that wrong I don't know my lesbian categories very well
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Jul 30, 2017 19:14
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Also it's not the deeper voice per se but the lower variation in tone.
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Jul 30, 2017 19:33
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:She soft butch iirc soft butch involves having that justin bieber-ish hairstyle all teen boys had from 2008-2011 and wearing ties lauren southern is just femme, if i have my lesbian categories right
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Jul 30, 2017 19:39
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https://twitter.com/TakedownMRAs/st...%3D1090%23pti33
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another victim of the gynocracy
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Jul 30, 2017 19:53
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And this is the fate of a successful PUA con artist.
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Jul 30, 2017 20:02
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IS there a term for lesbians who have long hair and wear makeup but also have a kind of masculine personality? I know someone like that so I always wondered.
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Jul 30, 2017 20:16
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I've consulted the big book of LGBT terms and I believe it's lipstick lesbian. I'd put money on it for Lauren Southern but I'm also hoping because goddammit Milo has been loving it up for us really bad and it's about time the lesbians had one of theirs go full fash. (Gay men and lesbians are like Russia and China, kinda like friends but also not...)
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Jul 30, 2017 20:27
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it's a bit surreal to me that Roosh is so toxic that even the Daily Mail hates him
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:it's a bit surreal to me that Roosh is so toxic that even the Daily Mail hates him they might be sorta ok with thinking it about ceirten people but roosh is out and proud about his awful politics.
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