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10's trick not only required a piece of himself he doesn't have (and new regenarations aren't present of mind enough to remember to immediately cut their own arm off so they can do later) but also ended up making an rear end in a top hat human clone ruining a companion's life. There's lots of reasons not to do that again and an alternative way to not regenerate hasn't been described
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Astroman posted:Or you might say he regenerated...into himself. You've answered your own question. The Doctor's really bad at regenerating. It's not the traumatic experience for most Time Lords that it is for him (the General in Hell Bent recovered in seconds, as did the Master in Utopia) and at least some of them have shown much more control over the process than he has (Romana in particular). He was only able to regenerate into himself the once because of that extra hand (and that had enough unintended consequences that he'd probably not want to do that again even if it were an option). Beyond that, though, I think it's more than Twelve just not wanting to change, though that's the excuse he's giving. I think he just doesn't want to go on with (he thinks) everyone and everything he cares about dead or lost.
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Jul 30, 2017 19:41
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The doctor is turned into a woman and sent back in time to become Romana
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Jul 30, 2017 19:52
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Timby posted:Ten wasted an entire regeneration because he was too full of himself to accept changing. To be fair they were in the middle of a crisis and the last thing you need when there's Daleks everywhere is a brand new Doctor bumbling about and vomiting glowing energy everywhere. Probably figured keeping his own face would be the best option, plus he didn't seem that shocked when the Metacrisis Doctor turned up so maybe he was hoping something like that would happen
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Jul 30, 2017 20:08
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2house2fly posted:To be fair they were in the middle of a crisis and the last thing you need when there's Daleks everywhere is a brand new Doctor bumbling about and vomiting glowing energy everywhere. Probably figured keeping his own face would be the best option, plus he didn't seem that shocked when the Metacrisis Doctor turned up so maybe he was hoping something like that would happen Whereas bumbling about and vomiting energy everwhere was exactly how Eleven dealt with his Daleks Everywhere problem.
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Jul 30, 2017 20:55
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Eleven had regen energy to spare because of the continue he collected, ten was reaching the end of his extra lives
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Jul 30, 2017 20:58
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Looks like the one unfinished Doctor Who story is getting yet ANOTHER retelling: http://www.starburstmagazine.com/tv-news/18897-lost-doctor-who-classic-shada-to-be-bbc-worldwides-next-animation-project
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Jul 30, 2017 21:03
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One thing I don't get, is how do time lords age? When 10 got age zapped by the master, he turned into golem. When 11 was protecting Trenazlor or whatever it is for 300 years, he was visibly older. When 12 showed up, he started out older looking and what not. I suppose it is ok that they can regenerate into a whatever kind of age looking human. But did 1 grow up? How long did he live to look that old before regenerating? Were people saying "You look like poo poo, why don't you just shoot yourself and regenerate?" I guess this is a bit too much "Scratchy clearly hit the same bone twice but produced two different notes."
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Jul 30, 2017 21:15
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Davros1 posted:Looks like the one unfinished Doctor Who story is getting yet ANOTHER retelling: If they can get Tom and Lalla on board it might be interesting, but I still wish they had done something like Evil of the Daleks (or The Massacre!) instead. Shada honestly isn't that good to begin with, and we've already got a dozen different versions of it anyway.
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Jul 30, 2017 21:18
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I suspect a large part of it is the combination of Tom Baker (the Doctor that most people have heard of) and Douglas Adams (a writer that most people have heard of)
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Jul 30, 2017 21:27
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Davros1 posted:Looks like the one unfinished Doctor Who story is getting yet ANOTHER retelling: quote:Levine’s version was offered to BBC Worldwide some years ago but declined. lol
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Jul 30, 2017 21:29
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Cojawfee posted:One thing I don't get, is how do time lords age? When 10 got age zapped by the master, he turned into golem. When 11 was protecting Trenazlor or whatever it is for 300 years, he was visibly older. When 12 showed up, he started out older looking and what not. I suppose it is ok that they can regenerate into a whatever kind of age looking human. But did 1 grow up? How long did he live to look that old before regenerating? Were people saying "You look like poo poo, why don't you just shoot yourself and regenerate?" Time Lords seem to age roughly analogous to how humans do, it just takes them a hell of a lot longer. We see young John Hurt's reflection at the start of his regeneration, before we get Granddad Grumpy in Day of the Doctor; the 5th Doctor looks all frumpy in Time Crash because of the "shorted out time differential", adding a few hundred years of wear to his face; 10 and 11 both age roughly human-like, just over centuries. I reconcile DobbyDoctor as the laser screwdriver basically forcing him to age without letting him either die or regenerate. And we do see a young 1 in that 12th Doctor episode Listen, looking like a little kid.
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Jul 30, 2017 21:29
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Davros1 posted:Looks like the one unfinished Doctor Who story is getting yet ANOTHER retelling: Man, people really love "Shada," I guess.
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Jul 30, 2017 21:31
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jivjov posted:Time Lords seem to age roughly analogous to how humans do, it just takes them a hell of a lot longer. We see young John Hurt's reflection at the start of his regeneration, before we get Granddad Grumpy in Day of the Doctor; the 5th Doctor looks all frumpy in Time Crash because of the "shorted out time differential", adding a few hundred years of wear to his face; 10 and 11 both age roughly human-like, just over centuries. I reconcile DobbyDoctor as the laser screwdriver basically forcing him to age without letting him either die or regenerate. And we do see a young 1 in that 12th Doctor episode Listen, looking like a little kid. DobbyDoctor was made when the Master said 'You don't look 900 years old, Doctor'.
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Jul 30, 2017 21:33
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Cojawfee posted:One thing I don't get, is how do time lords age? When 10 got age zapped by the master, he turned into golem. When 11 was protecting Trenazlor or whatever it is for 300 years, he was visibly older. When 12 showed up, he started out older looking and what not. I suppose it is ok that they can regenerate into a whatever kind of age looking human. But did 1 grow up? How long did he live to look that old before regenerating? Were people saying "You look like poo poo, why don't you just shoot yourself and regenerate?" I figure regeneration energy is always ticking away in a Time Lord's body, keeping them from aging. 11 ended up getting old and about to die of old age because he ran out of energy
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Jul 30, 2017 21:34
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Cojawfee posted:One thing I don't get, is how do time lords age? When 10 got age zapped by the master, he turned into golem. When 11 was protecting Trenazlor or whatever it is for 300 years, he was visibly older. When 12 showed up, he started out older looking and what not. I suppose it is ok that they can regenerate into a whatever kind of age looking human. But did 1 grow up? How long did he live to look that old before regenerating? Were people saying "You look like poo poo, why don't you just shoot yourself and regenerate?" In no particular order: One, being the original, grew up from a child and all the normal stuff. He lived to... 700? 800? I don't know, but a long rear end time. The Master screwing about with the Doctor was... the Master screwing about with the Doctor, removing the near perfect cellular regeneration that keeps time lords nearly (but not quite) immortal. Eleven was the longest lived regeneration by a long shot, living for ~1100 years. The Doctor has died of aging/natural causes three times, with War aging quicker (as in, stock footage youngish John Hurt to 2013 John Hurt over about a century) due to living like a hobo through an unimaginably horrible war. Twelve being older is (in universe*) part of him being more honest in general, showing his age rather than carrying on getting younger. In short: Time Lords age, but it takes centuries for it to show or take effect outside of extenuating circumstances. *the actual reason is why the gently caress wouldn't you want peter capaldi to be the doctor come on e: f, b.
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Wyld Karde posted:Whereas bumbling about and vomiting energy everwhere was exactly how Eleven dealt with his Daleks Everywhere problem. I really wanted there to be a scene where the Time Lords phone up Twelve all "Way to burn five regenerations on a goddamn fireworks show, loser".
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Jul 30, 2017 21:50
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Cojawfee posted:Were people saying "You look like poo poo, why don't you just shoot yourself and regenerate?" Im guessing maybe age and looks isnt really a big deal to a race where age and looks are somewhat fleeting. Also dying apparently sucks, even if you do regenerate
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Jul 30, 2017 21:51
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docbeard posted:I really wanted there to be a scene where the Time Lords phone up Twelve all "Way to burn five regenerations on a goddamn fireworks show, loser". Also, I was a fan of "How many regenerations did we grant you? I've got all night"
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Jul 30, 2017 22:07
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Shada is going to be completed. Again.
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Jul 30, 2017 22:19
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I can't recall where (and Moffat is contradicting it with the shots of the First regenerating) but Davis said that he justifies regeneration being a big dramatic light show by saying that the Time Lords weaponized it during the Time War so that anyone dying would basically be a weapon. I always just thought that the Tardis dialled this down when inside of it but Eleven used it to its full potential.
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Jul 30, 2017 22:40
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Being honest, the War Doctor is likely the oldest of them all. The Doctor being '2000' years old or whatever is total bullshit, and everyone knows it. He just started rounding down after the War Doctor. Picked some arbitrary number.
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Jul 30, 2017 23:00
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someone suggest a peter davison story please
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Jul 30, 2017 23:21
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Spare Parts
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Jul 30, 2017 23:23
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Burkion posted:Being honest, the War Doctor is likely the oldest of them all. 2000 is the Time Lord version of 29 and the Doctor is just convinced they always look young enough to pass for it, no matter what regeneration.
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corn in the bible posted:someone suggest a peter davison story please Black Orchid. It's not the best story but it's short and has some very fun moments. The entire thing only happens because the Doctor is mistaken for somebody else, then learns he gets to play cricket if he doesn't correct them so he enthusiastically plays along. Edit: It's also one of the best uses of Adric post-Tom Baker.
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Rewatching Nu-Who, and wondering, why is there so much hate for the Paternoster gang? The characters are no worse than other supporting Who characters, and I am always a fan of characters being around for multiple regenerations. Who fans just seem to hate them extra hard, and I really don't understand it.
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Jul 31, 2017 01:38
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Watching Season 3 of Broadchurch, and it's so cool seeing the 10th and 13th Doctors in the same scene! 
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Illuen posted:Rewatching Nu-Who, and wondering, why is there so much hate for the Paternoster gang? The characters are no worse than other supporting Who characters, and I am always a fan of characters being around for multiple regenerations. Who fans just seem to hate them extra hard, and I really don't understand it. They got a bit overplayed towards the end, but in general I like them. Nothing wrong with a bit of Strax. My favourite gag of his is in Name Of The Doctor, when he's apologising to Vastra for going crazy and trying to kill her: "it was an unprovoked and violent attack... but that's no excuse"
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Astroman posted:Watching Season 3 of Broadchurch, and it's so cool seeing the 10th and 13th Doctors in the same scene! And Prisoner Zero!
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TinTower posted:And Prisoner Zero! All of those rumours of Olivia Colman getting cast as 13 would have ended up really silly. "Why did I choose this face? ... ... uhhh I guess I... want to bite people's faces off?  "
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it's a little weird that the lizard both dates a human and still eats people, they were in some of the worst scenes and jokes (the "POND" scene from snowman still makes me wince), always felt a little more like ideas someone had than realized characters to me. It's been a while since the pre-Capaldi seasons, so I don't remember what else I didn't like about them. Maybe we'll see them again, it's been a while since Deep Breath.
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Also, Jenny and Vastra's relationship was pretty much always treated as a joke, or at worst blatant fanservice, rather than feeling like actual representation.
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people don't like them because they mostly only appear in crap episodes
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corn in the bible posted:people don't like them because they mostly only appear in crap episodes There was the Crimson Horror though.
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Jul 31, 2017 02:43
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i kind of wish modern doctor who would do confusing space culture references more. tom baker for lyfe yo
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fractalairduct posted:Also, Jenny and Vastra's relationship was pretty much always treated as a joke, or at worst blatant fanservice, rather than feeling like actual representation. The joke was conservative Victorians having a stronger reaction to two women being married than one of them being a lizard monster.
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it's a good thing harmon and roilland thought of rick and morty before adult swim's live action department watched some old doctor who and did their own take
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