NBA Offseason G/V: Let Me Hear You Post It

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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed.
The Big3 Tourney	67	22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball	40	13.38%
Where will the Pauls go	54	18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ??	41	13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking	97	32.44%
Total:	210 votes

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Ammanas: Jul 17, 2005; Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

WhyteRyce posted:

I think a lot of people born in the early 80s are in the situation. I get emails from the millennial group at my work inviting me to after work functions and I pass on free food and beer because I don't want someone 10 years younger than me telling me about career growth and how the group can help. Also I don't seem to really relate that well to them either

Yeah there's a huge difference between even late 80s kids and early 80s kids, they're wildly different and marketers lumping it all together is goofy (millennial now means born 1980-2017??)

# ? Jul 31, 2017 01:36

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Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Azathoth posted:

I'm a Timberwolves fan and local sports media is all in on "trade Wiggins for Kyrie" ignoring the simple fact that because of trade and salary cap rules, the Timberwolves would need to throw in Gorgui Dieng or both Cole Aldrich and (Tyus Jones/Nemanja Bjelica/Justin Patton) or Tyus Jones and Nemanja Bjelica and Justin Patton just to make the numbers work, and given where they're at with the cap, they can only sign players for veterans minimum contracts at this point, so they'd need to find players to replace those minutes without literally being able to pay them anything but the minimum. Oh, and all that is for the privilege of giving up Wiggins and having two starting-caliber point guards on the same roster.

And so I am wondering why we're not hearing more chatter about a December 15 trade of Jeff Teague for Kyrie, likely with the Timberwolves throwing in some combination of picks and Cole Aldrich, Nemanja Bjelica, or Justin Patton. Now, hear me out...

Why it makes sense for the Cavs: If they don't get a starting caliber PG back in the trade, you're looking at either having Lebron running point all year or having Derrick Rose be your starting point guard. The current market for free agent PGs is getting a bit slim, you'd be looking at Patty Mills as the best available option before moving on to either over-the-hill good players (bringing back Deron Williams), journeymen rotation players (Ramon Sessions), or young busts (Ty Lawson). If the goal is to entice Lebron to stay, any trade that doesn't net a starting point guard in return seems like a bad trade. They'd have a good starting point guard and would get back either picks and/or young rotation bigs who could slot in and help immediately and at worst provide a bridge and some component parts if Lebron leaves in the offseason.

Why it makes sense for the TImberwolves: Pulling the trigger on any trade for Kyrie that doesn't involve Jeff Teague creates a situation where either Jeff Teague or some player not yet on the roster is a starting wing. Kyrie is specifically looking to leave because he doesn't like sharing ball-handling duties with Lebron and wants to be that guy. I haven't seen a lot of Jeff Teague's game, but from what I've seen, I don't have much hope that he'd be effective off the ball. However, if you swap Teague and Kyrie, everything fits a lot better for both teams. Kyrie would obviously be an upgrade to Teague and they wouldn't be looking for a heavy-minutes wing on a veteran's minimum salary.

Now, obviously, this isn't the kind of trade that you'd agree to right now (at least not publicly), but if Cleveland doesn't get the kind of return they're looking for, this is the kind of thing that makes sense as a fallback, particularly if things deteriorate further in Cleveland. So, now's the part where you all tell me why I'm a ridiculous homer and this makes no sense for either team...

Or they could just keep Kyrie Irving who is under contract for 2 more years.

# ? Jul 31, 2017 01:59

Ammanas: Jul 17, 2005; Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

Has a player ever explicitly made his desires to be traded known and then...not been traded ? Melo is different, he wants to be lazy in NY OR be traded to the rockets

Telling a player who has aired his grievances in public like kyrie has to suit up and play seems like a recipe for a toxic team

# ? Jul 31, 2017 02:14

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

Ammanas posted:

Has a player ever explicitly made his desires to be traded known and then...not been traded ? Melo is different, he wants to be lazy in NY OR be traded to the rockets

Telling a player who has aired his grievances in public like kyrie has to suit up and play seems like a recipe for a toxic team

Dwight Howard for years and then DeMarcus Cousins for years

# ? Jul 31, 2017 02:17

Deadbeat Dad: Jun 3, 2005; the trad games jinho

Ammanas posted:

Has a player ever explicitly made his desires to be traded known and then...not been traded ? Melo is different, he wants to be lazy in NY OR be traded to the rockets

Telling a player who has aired his grievances in public like kyrie has to suit up and play seems like a recipe for a toxic team

Kobe

Hakeem

# ? Jul 31, 2017 02:19

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

Doltos posted:

Dwight Howard for years and then DeMarcus Cousins for years

Cousins wanted to stay, though. He just wanted the head coaches gone, with the exception of Mike Malone.

# ? Jul 31, 2017 02:26

Azathoth: Apr 3, 2001

Lockback posted:

Or they could just keep Kyrie Irving who is under contract for 2 more years.

I'm saying in a situation where things have deteriorated to such a point that he needs to go. I know that they can make him suit up and play, but if the point is to keep Lebron around past this season and they can't bury the hatchet, it seems like a good out for the Cavs.

# ? Jul 31, 2017 02:35

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

If you didn't live through dialup and your introduction to technology was a smart phone I don't relate to you at all

# ? Jul 31, 2017 02:49

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Utah what have you done to Ricky
https://twitter.com/rickyrubio9/status/891762121398157315

# ? Jul 31, 2017 02:54

Strawberry Panda: Nov 4, 2007; Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP