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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



you can tell this is an authentic females manuscript because of the background that looks like a grandma's bathroom.

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Shanghaied
Oct 12, 2004

BIG PAD

Lol, how many r/incels post has the words "parents", "mother" or "father" in the first sentence? These guys want their moms to gently caress them or raise a sister to gently caress them, but what would really do them a world of good is to be kicked out the moment they turn 18/graduate high school.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010


Hahahahaha this is loving amazing.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Theokotos posted:

I think there's a lot of aspects to the "woman incel" thing, and it's a pretty interesting question.

The point that came to me was how male incels seem to equate sex as a necessity/part of Maslow's hierarchy of needs, alongside food and shelter and air, etc. Even in cultures that value woman as baby makers above all else, it's easier for women to find (female) camaraderie and personal social worth in their day to day; they're not expected to find any/all their worth as sex havers.

Hell, the joke post above about them all being on fanfic.net is actually important because, even if they're making garbage stories, at least they're making something , not "laying down and rotting".

That's another part of this whole horrible poo poo stew, though. The Incels (and PUA culture as well) have also gotten hung up on the insistence that sexual relationships can be the only communication between the sexes.

green chicken feet
Nov 5, 2015

spray-paint the vegetables
dog food stalls
with the beefcake pantyhose
Grimey Drawer

Most of these depict the redpill fantasy that women are playing life on easy mode. But the writer shows his true hand on the definition for government.

"What's this nonsense called 'consent'? This really limits my options! And this 'equality' malarkey has got to go!"

Also I don't know where this idea is coming from that all women are happy to share a small number of men amongst themselves, but I don't know a single woman who would trade her husband for a 1/20 share of a hot guy.

Women get jealous, too, and most of them want a man who will be devoted to them. Lots of unpleasant drama ensues when a guy thinks he can get away with having multiple girlfriends. Is this man-sharing idea coming from porn or something?

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

lazorexplosion posted:

Normies should have to ask your permission to gently caress your sister

If you have no dad and are raised by a single mom, than your sister's boyfriends should have to ask you (the man of the household) permission to bed her.

Only a man can adequately judge another man. It would be based on virtue and payment/gifts to the head of the household. If you let women (especially young girls) use their own judgment they will pick criminal chads 99% of the time.

Give me things, and I MIGHT let you gently caress my sister, you loving normie.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



green chicken feet posted:

Women get jealous, too, and most of them want a man who will be devoted to them. Lots of unpleasant drama ensues when a guy thinks he can get away with having multiple girlfriends. Is this man-sharing idea coming from porn or something?
I think you'll find that women don't have the emotional capacity for anything beyond sham feelings designed to manipulate men; and, furthermore, yes.

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

BrigadierSensible posted:

Give me things, and I MIGHT let you gently caress my sister, you loving normie.

Deal.

Shanghaied
Oct 12, 2004

BIG PAD

green chicken feet posted:

Is this man-sharing idea coming from porn or something?

Do you even need to ask? See also: all women love degrading poo poo and piss sex; all women love hours-long gangbangs; all women love huge muscle-bound dudes covered in tattoos; all women act submissive to said muscle-bound dudes.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


mods please rename me degrading poo poo and piss sex

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


Nice try, Donald

RedSnapper
Nov 22, 2016

The best one yet.

Here's a thing I found:

http://webm.land/w/UjzD/

e: (Edited like 5 times because I couldn't get the drat link to work. I blame Chad.)

RedSnapper fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jul 31, 2017

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


BrigadierSensible posted:

Give me things, and I MIGHT let you gently caress my sister, you loving normie.
New incel life goal - pimping out your sister for Nintendo Switch AND Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. poo poo, if you luck out and she's hot you could maybe even upgrade that to Master Edition.

green chicken feet
Nov 5, 2015

spray-paint the vegetables
dog food stalls
with the beefcake pantyhose
Grimey Drawer

Shanghaied posted:

Do you even need to ask? See also: all women love degrading poo poo and piss sex; all women love hours-long gangbangs; all women love huge muscle-bound dudes covered in tattoos; all women act submissive to said muscle-bound dudes.

Point well taken.

Although it just occurred to me that "harem" anime may also deserve a portion of the blame. For those unfamiliar with this, there's a male main character and then female characters are introduced one after the other. They all fall in love with this one guy for unclear reasons because he's generally an average doofus at best.

I'm not a fan of this genre, but I can see why incels would be - it's their fantasy. Or maybe they would hate the main character because he gets the girls...? Hard to tell with these guys.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

JOHNSON COCKSLAP posted:

There's a person on my Facebook that spends 9 months of the year on 4 or 5 holidays. It's loving depressing.

Capitalism's fault imo

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


green chicken feet posted:

Point well taken.

Although it just occurred to me that "harem" anime may also deserve a portion of the blame. For those unfamiliar with this, there's a male main character and then female characters are introduced one after the other. They all fall in love with this one guy for unclear reasons because he's generally an average doofus at best.

I'm not a fan of this genre, but I can see why incels would be - it's their fantasy. Or maybe they would hate the main character because he gets the girls...? Hard to tell with these guys.

or the literary version of this, the Wheel of Time series

Shanghaied
Oct 12, 2004

BIG PAD

lazorexplosion posted:

Normies should have to ask your permission to gently caress your sister

If you have no dad and are raised by a single mom, than your sister's boyfriends should have to ask you (the man of the household) permission to bed her.

Only a man can adequately judge another man. It would be based on virtue and payment/gifts to the head of the household. If you let women (especially young girls) use their own judgment they will pick criminal chads 99% of the time.

So they have literally reinvented the Islamic legal concept of walayah (guardianship). I was gonna say that this must be an exiting time for scholars of sociology of religion or sociology of law to see sharia recreated in real time, but then I remembered no Islamic tradition allows you to gently caress your mother or sister. So incels are literally worse than Wahhabism.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

or the literary version of this, the Wheel of Time series

I'm reading through those right now and the main character gets called a dickhead by pretty much every single woman he's come into contact with so far?

Rand deffo ain't average looking either :shrug:

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

green chicken feet posted:

Point well taken.

Although it just occurred to me that "harem" anime may also deserve a portion of the blame. For those unfamiliar with this, there's a male main character and then female characters are introduced one after the other. They all fall in love with this one guy for unclear reasons because he's generally an average doofus at best.

I'm not a fan of this genre, but I can see why incels would be - it's their fantasy. Or maybe they would hate the main character because he gets the girls...? Hard to tell with these guys.

I think this fantasy predates anime.

Shanghaied
Oct 12, 2004

BIG PAD

General Dog posted:

I think this fantasy predates anime.

E.g. the whole Latter Day Saint movement.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Shanghaied posted:

E.g. the whole Latter Day Saint movement.

Also the first few thousand years of human civilization in general, featuring polygamy and, you know, actual harems.

Shanghaied
Oct 12, 2004

BIG PAD

General Dog posted:

Also the first few thousand years of human civilization in general, featuring polygamy and, you know, actual harems.

So anti--polygamy laws were really just the incels fighting back? Speaking of which, here's Ibn Saud, the founder of Saudi Arabia, in his mid-thirties:



Looks at this swarthy, handsome Chad. And also he was like 6' 6". No wonder then that he had 22 wives and almost 100 children.

The Chinese emperors and Ottoman sultans had harems of hundreds of women. Genghis Khan is thought to have had so many wives and children that 0.5% of the the world population today is said to have descended from him. Even Edward VII, that fat, ugly inbred, is said to have had extra-marital affairs with at least 50 women.

So lol to all the incels who thinks that they would have been free from the tyranny of Chad in ancient times.

Shanghaied fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jul 31, 2017

n4
Jul 26, 2001

Poor Chu-Chu : (
All of humanity can be traced back to a small group of 10 Chads

green chicken feet
Nov 5, 2015

spray-paint the vegetables
dog food stalls
with the beefcake pantyhose
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, harems do exist IRL, but having a harem means you're probably insanely wealthy plus are part of a culture where women can legally be treated like property. From what I've seen, the harem anime guys are nondescript shy or goofy student types living in Japan - I assume, the intended audience.

Years ago I was looking for good shows to watch and I had an unlucky streak where I kept trying new anime series only to find out it was more of the same harem crap... well, even if these don't contribute significantly to the American incel culture, I'm sure they've played a part in the Japanese version.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

poor chad-chan

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
A harem isn't good enough. They have to want to throw themselves at you one after another for no reason other than you're the bland nondescript main character like in the animes.

n4
Jul 26, 2001

Poor Chu-Chu : (
Tenchi Muyo is a great show where a bunch of hot aliens want to bone this very anxious dweeb and they all live in the same house.

Also Tenchi has super powers and is one of the strongest beings in the universe.

Anyway I wish my life were like Tenchi's. Bye

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

n4 posted:

Tenchi Muyo is a great show where a bunch of hot aliens want to bone this very anxious dweeb and they all live in the same house.

Also Tenchi has super powers and is one of the strongest beings in the universe.

Anyway I wish my life were like Tenchi's. Bye

Tenchi only really works because Tenchi doesn't particularly enjoy it all. If he openly embraced the harem surrounding him it would probably be less funny and more creepy

green chicken feet
Nov 5, 2015

spray-paint the vegetables
dog food stalls
with the beefcake pantyhose
Grimey Drawer

COMRADES posted:

A harem isn't good enough. They have to want to throw themselves at you one after another for no reason other than you're the bland nondescript main character like in the animes.

I think this is what incels wanted originally, and they thought they could be "that guy" with women throwing themselves at him for no discernable reason.

Then on some level they realized it would never happen. Probably when they reached their late teens and women had failed to approach them begging for intimate relationships.

But then instead of applying this as "I should work on self-improvement to attract real women, which requires effort, unlike in the cartoons" they went in the direction of "let's force women into slavery so they won't have a choice but to cower before me and beg to remain in my good graces". They want to force another fantasy situation that requires nothing from them but being male.

Well, fantasy for them - Hell for women who have to live it. :(

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

green chicken feet posted:

I think this is what incels wanted originally, and they thought they could be "that guy" with women throwing themselves at him for no discernable reason.

Then on some level they realized it would never happen. Probably when they reached their late teens and women had failed to approach them begging for intimate relationships.

But then instead of applying this as "I should work on self-improvement to attract real women, which requires effort, unlike in the cartoons" they went in the direction of "let's force women into slavery so they won't have a choice but to cower before me and beg to remain in my good graces". They want to force another fantasy situation that requires nothing from them but being male.

Well, fantasy for them - Hell for women who have to live it. :(

Yes but you see women don't have highly developed emotions like men do, and their brains are only wired to accept Chad-cock. This is why their brains need to be replaced by dog brains, so they will be more loving and contented to live in a 5x8 kennel. That way their holes will be pure and pristine, not wrecked by the cock carousel.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

n4 posted:

Tenchi Muyo is a great show where a bunch of hot aliens want to bone this very anxious dweeb and they all live in the same house.

Also Tenchi has super powers and is one of the strongest beings in the universe.

Anyway I wish my life were like Tenchi's. Bye

Monster Musume, same. Just replace 'hot aliens' with 'monster girls'.
Japan will find a way to sexualize anything.


Croisquessein
Feb 25, 2005

invisible or nonexistent, and should be treated as such

Khazar-khum posted:

Yes but you see women don't have highly developed emotions like men do, and their brains are only wired to accept Chad-cock. This is why their brains need to be replaced by dog brains, so they will be more loving and contented to live in a 5x8 kennel. That way their holes will be pure and pristine, not wrecked by the cock carousel.

When that post came up I was reminded of this scifi short story I read ages ago where they discover aliens that look like women but have the docility and intelligence of animals, and they import a bunch of them for guys to have sex with, and it turns out they have a disease that kills off most of the men on earth.

Also, Bloodcel

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

green chicken feet posted:

Point well taken.

Although it just occurred to me that "harem" anime may also deserve a portion of the blame. For those unfamiliar with this, there's a male main character and then female characters are introduced one after the other. They all fall in love with this one guy for unclear reasons because he's generally an average doofus at best.

I'm not a fan of this genre, but I can see why incels would be - it's their fantasy. Or maybe they would hate the main character because he gets the girls...? Hard to tell with these guys.

I only know the genre from reading about it but I'm pretty sure that no, the main character never gets a girl, or they couldn't stretch a series indefinitely, introduce more and more girls etc.
the most insidious harem series have no male main character and the viewer fills the role. series like, bizarrely, MLP (where I'm pretty sure the male-less harem aspect was accidental because american producers aren't as jaded and cynical as their japanese counterparts)

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

A big part of it is confirmation bias too. An incel will mentally categorize every example of a chad or Stacy or whatever a beta orbiter is and throw out any evidence to the contrary. Pile on that the fact they never meet people in the real world and get most of their social interaction from Reddit and you get a really stunted worldview

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



ugh, incels are hiding beneath their subreddit sheets and crying themselves to sleep again.

green chicken feet
Nov 5, 2015

spray-paint the vegetables
dog food stalls
with the beefcake pantyhose
Grimey Drawer

hackbunny posted:

I only know the genre from reading about it but I'm pretty sure that no, the main character never gets a girl, or they couldn't stretch a series indefinitely, introduce more and more girls etc.
the most insidious harem series have no male main character and the viewer fills the role. series like, bizarrely, MLP (where I'm pretty sure the male-less harem aspect was accidental because american producers aren't as jaded and cynical as their japanese counterparts)

Hehe. I never could tolerate watching a harem series long enough to find out if the main character ever made a choice.

And no joke, you are the first person who's made sense of the whole Brony phenomenon for me.

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

Ghostlight posted:

ugh, incels are hiding beneath their subreddit sheets and crying themselves to sleep again.

man what a solid set of beliefs that subreddit represents! no wonder they have to apply a careful amount of moderation to keep it from being challenged into dust

also i love how the ads on that subreddit were mostly for therapy. for their sakes, i hope that continues

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

My Linux Rig posted:


also i love how the ads on that subreddit were mostly for therapy. for their sakes, i hope that continues

they target the ads to the user actually :)

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

maskenfreiheit posted:

they target the ads to the user actually :)

oh.

welp that was quite a self burn

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green chicken feet
Nov 5, 2015

spray-paint the vegetables
dog food stalls
with the beefcake pantyhose
Grimey Drawer

My Linux Rig posted:

oh.

welp that was quite a self burn

If it makes you feel better, I watch anime on a free website and half of the ads are for mail-order brides.

I am not in need of a mail-order bride. :colbert:

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