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Unoriginal Name posted:Real or not, KWaste is saying they are all honest portrayals of the movies But since only one of them is a real advertisement and not a gag, let's deal with it: it's not dishonest. It's a specialized TV spot meant to manufacture desire for the premiere of a major motion picture one a channel that in turn advertises itself as a "family" network. The film in question is a PG-13 superhero movie, which has been further edited, with a character who is mega-popular among babies and children. Nothing in the spot is inaccurate in terms of what more or less happens in the movie. Reading the frenetic pacing or 'tone' of an advertisement as a direct translation of the precise experience of watching the entire cinematic story unfold, making up a movie in your head to accommodate this, and then declaring that you have been deceived by advertisement when the film you end up seeing is obviously not the trailer or the movie in your head, is exactly how that moron who sued the distributors of Drive thought. She was only more audacious in that she actually took them to court - but most 'dishonest trailer' claims are equally as stupid. They fundamentally come down to an imagined debate between the anecdotal spectator and what they believe they are being "told" by marketing people. lizardman imagines that Fox is screaming this very specific statement at him, which defeats the entire point of advertisement, which is that the reasons you would want to go see Alien: Covenant or Prometheus should be non-exclusive. It is not about honesty in advertisement. It's about the understanding of film as a commodity that, unlike other commodities, can not in good faith be taken to deliver the identical, standardized 'service' and 'experience' to potentially millions of different people, who all have very different and often very stupid reasons upon which they predicate their enjoyment of what is, at the end of the day, just a movie. There is no way to make an advertisement that guarantees that there will be harmony between the interstitial movie you make up in your head after seeing the advertisement, and then the actual film itself.
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# ? Jul 30, 2017 21:50 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I like the scene where the clown runs down a list of possible explanations for why they're there, and all of them sound like possible other Twilight Zone episodes Exactly, yeah, he gets very near to saying "this is just like that TV show".
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 00:01 |
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If they were sending a colony ship why did then even have a human crew? They should of just had a crew of Davids. Davids cant become aliens.
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 03:51 |
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The society in the Alien flicks does not seem to trust synthetics enough to have more than one on any crew. Fear they'd start doing... More or less what they do here.
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 03:53 |
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Tenzarin posted:If they were sending a colony ship why did then even have a human crew? They should of just had a crew of Davids. Davids cant become aliens. I'd guess cost considerations.
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 03:59 |
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 04:35 |
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Dan Harmon is weird In other news David owns
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 08:44 |
The digital HD release of this on iTunes this Tuesday has all the deleted scenes/extras.
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 08:54 |
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RedSpider posted:The digital HD release of this on iTunes this Tuesday has all the deleted scenes/extras.
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 14:16 |
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I'm guessing he means Alien Covenant.
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 16:47 |
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Xenomrph posted:I'm guessing he means Alien Covenant.
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 17:04 |
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CelticPredator posted:Dan Harmon is weird That was supposed to be Dan Harmon?
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 17:15 |
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Covok posted:That was supposed to be Dan Harmon?
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 17:39 |
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david_a posted:The dude in the cartoon is Slavoj Žižek. Maybe Harmon drew it or something? No idea how he relates to it. I hate to be joke-explainer-guy but its because they look alike in that lovely mspaint. OP was being intentionally obtuse for comedic effect.
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 18:11 |
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It's from one of the few genuinely good webcomics http://existentialcomics.com/ Now with better art!
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# ? Jul 31, 2017 20:41 |
I just watched that short film 'Advent' on the HD purchase, and oh boy, it expands on Covenant's cliffhanger even more. It's a transmission David sends out as a warning to the Weyland corporation and the Engineers about his intentions on destroying all life in the galaxy with the black goo/Aliens. He also talks about making an Alien Queen with Daniels' organs. The whole thing has various clips of David experimenting in his lab POV style. Very creepy. Scott wasn't kidding around about that War of the Worlds bit. Too bad he probably won't get to make it.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 08:55 |
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Holy poo poo. Gimme
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 09:45 |
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I want to see that so bad I'm considering buying it on digital tomorrow. Don't be lying to me
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 09:55 |
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So are there any stills out there yet showing the Covenant spaceship from above in all its explicitly phallic glory? Because that's the only redeeming thing about Covenant for me (okay, other than Michael Fassbender) simply because of how much of a perfect summation it is for the rest the movie (yes, even Michael Fassbender, since David is indeed a ginormous dick with his head in the clouds).
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 10:42 |
CelticPredator posted:I want to see that so bad I'm considering buying it on digital tomorrow. Don't be lying to me It's a hard R and seven minutes long. It is by far the best part of the home release. Fassbender was clearly having fun with it, too. There's another nine minute one called 'Phobos' where Weyland Corp is testing the mental stamina of the Covenant crew members by having them hooked up to these machines where they see visions of gruesome deaths.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:07 |
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Well, that makes it incredibly frustrating that the Amazon Video digital release apparently has no special features at all.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:27 |
Flappy Bert posted:Well, that makes it incredibly frustrating that the Amazon Video digital release apparently has no special features at all. iTunes and VUDU have them. I recommend the iTunes version because the picture quality on it is loving amazing.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:30 |
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7 minutes of film saving alien covenant, lol.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 23:51 |
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Alien Covenant is pretty much perfect. The last 10 minutes is the only weak part, and the film could use 2 hours more of David doing David things. 4 hour David movie come at me
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 00:16 |
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CelticPredator posted:4 hour David movie come at me Well, there pretty much is a 4 hour David movie, and it kicks rear end.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 00:37 |
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True. But I'm a entitled being when it comes to these movies. I need more!
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 00:38 |
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Just drop David into every script produced for the next five years, imo.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 01:16 |
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RedSpider posted:It's a hard R and seven minutes long. It is by far the best part of the home release. Fassbender was clearly having fun with it, too. I know most of these were only ever made for marketing purposes but this is even more "how in the gently caress was this not in the movie" stuff to me. This is awesome. Looking forward to the inevitable fan-edit.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 06:08 |
Neo Rasa posted:I know most of these were only ever made for marketing purposes but this is even more "how in the gently caress was this not in the movie" stuff to me. This is awesome. Looking forward to the inevitable fan-edit. Alien Covenant has a TON of extras/special features on the home release. There's about 10 deleted/extended scenes (one in Daniels' apartment on Earth, and Walter growing WEED while the crew was in Hypersleep!), an hour making of Featurette with Ridley Scott/cast and crew, the film with the Director's commentary, and all the promotional viral clips they released including ADVENT and PHOBOS. It's pretty baller. If I knew how to record, I would just upload the ADVENT video for you. I could post screengrabs and the transcript of David's message if you want.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 06:24 |
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Yeah Advent is great. I bought my first digital release to see it. Kinda glad too because I'm gonna be hopped up on pills after a Dentist appointment so I can't think of a better way to spend my time than watchin Alien.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 06:27 |
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these David movies are extremely good and I need another.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 18:59 |
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RedSpider posted:I just watched that short film 'Advent' on the HD purchase, and oh boy, it expands on Covenant's cliffhanger even more. So then WY knew about the xenomorph prior to Alien and special order 937 was specifically tailored with acquiring one in mind
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 20:01 |
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The only problem I had with that was, it would've had to have been AvP-R which canonically triggered this event. And I don't like that idea.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 20:09 |
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CelticPredator posted:The only problem I had with that was, it would've had to have been AvP-R which canonically triggered this event. I mean, now it sounds like David's transmission is the trigger for it. They get the transmission, go "uh what the actual gently caress," and then table it until someone gets close to the general area that they can afford to lose.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 20:51 |
Somebody uploaded ADVENT: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B86EuJPI5slER2N2MjBlUFJwTlk/view
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 21:27 |
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What the gently caress, that's awesome. I like how clear David's transmission is but by the time it reaches earth it's just like "huh some kind of bug that's big and angry? swap a droid onto this space truck to get us one I guess."
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 22:26 |
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That is awesome and it should've been the epilogue of the movie.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 22:49 |
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It's funny, because you imply that David might be the creator of the xenomorph and people hate it, but you have him tell you in in great detail and it's awesome.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 23:22 |
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That should have been the goddamn stinger that starts cutting in 1/2 way through the credits. It's already edited that way.
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# ? Aug 2, 2017 23:36 |
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RedSpider posted:Somebody uploaded ADVENT: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B86EuJPI5slER2N2MjBlUFJwTlk/view Lol Ridley still trying to rip on Aliens.
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