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This is the worst gimmick trolling I've ever seen.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:28
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A wizard did it.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:29
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Pedro De Heredia posted:They didn't have to give Daenerys three allies (Greyjoys, Martells, and Tyrells) only to dispose of them in three episodes. They didn't rewrite it to even things out, it's not a computer game that needs balance, it's television drama. They write twists and turns to create television drama. I was convinced Olenna was getting the same poison as Joffrey, but that she knew it and had some backup foil. Actually getting a nice quiet poison and then being allowed a parting shot like that seems like a missed opportunity for television drama.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:30
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My local library had a half assed shelf of GRRM stuff front and center to promote reading during these dark times. They had A Knight Of The Seven Kingdoms and A World Of Ice and Fire. Dunk and egg stories are really great. The illustrations were great. Cant wait to see those hack frauds at HBO ruin that in 2-3 years
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Jul 31, 2017 22:33
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:This is the worst gimmick trolling I've ever seen. Uh.. I meant that as a serious question. Has the distance between these two places ever once been established?
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Jul 31, 2017 22:34
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basic hitler posted:My local library had a half assed shelf of GRRM stuff front and center to promote reading during these dark times. They had A Knight Of The Seven Kingdoms and A World Of Ice and Fire. lucky for you the hack frauds have nothing to do with any of the spinoffs but alas its the hope that kills you
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Jul 31, 2017 22:35
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Uh.. I meant that as a serious question. Has the distance between these two places ever once been established? In Season 1 Tywin has 2 weeks to get his rear end to Kings Landing from Casterly Rock. That's all I got.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:40
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Ola posted:They didn't rewrite it to even things out, it's not a computer game that needs balance, it's television drama. They write twists and turns to create television drama. are you people even serious anymore.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:42
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Uh.. I meant that as a serious question. Has the distance between these two places ever once been established? if the wall is 300 miles then the distance from King's Landing to Casterly Rock is over 500 miles. we have 2 dimensions provided for us 3000 miles from KL to the Wall The Wall is 300 mi long these two figures are both in the book and the show to-scale maps exist of Westeros
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Jul 31, 2017 22:43
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Also we have Cersei's giant floor map.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:44
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So neither "distance" nor "time lapsed" are ever firmly established. Go on about people "teleporting" 
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Jul 31, 2017 22:45
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:So neither "distance" nor "time lapsed" are ever firmly established. distance is firmly established you retard we have the distance of everything don't you know how to-scale maps work
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Jul 31, 2017 22:45
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Yeah the compression of time is obviously overboard. Consider theyre basocally gambling on covering WoW and ADoS material in what? 14 episodes? Not loving reasonable to be honest. I understand costs have ballooned and theres probably fatigue from how the show is made but it was stupid.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:47
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Uh.. I meant that as a serious question. Has the distance between these two places ever once been established? Yes. People spend weeks and month travelling across Westeros. Travelling and travel times have always been a huge part of this show, in every season. It's a really huge place. King's Landing and Casterly Rock are on the opposite ends of Westeros.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:49
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Phi230 posted:distance is firmly established you retard we have the distance of everything Literally it is not. Where's the to-scale map showing us Casterly Rock and High Garden?
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Jul 31, 2017 22:49
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Ola posted:They didn't rewrite it to even things out, it's not a computer game that needs balance, it's television drama. They write twists and turns to create television drama. But it's sort of lazy to re-use the same Dany makes a dumb decision and gets saved by a string of magical Deus Ex Machina style events.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:49
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That's better
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Jul 31, 2017 22:51
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what we don't actually have is time, since there is no time/date stamp on anything in this show
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Jul 31, 2017 22:51
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In the span of 3 episodes, Euron has gone from King's Landing to an unspecified area off the Dornish Coast; back to King's Landing, and finally around the entire continent to Casterly Rock according to the scale provided by the show and the books, he's gone thousands of miles in just 3 episodes apparently the same amount of time it takes for Jon to go from Winterfel - White Harbor - Dragonstone, which is around 1000 miles or lets just use Episode 3 here - in the time it took for Euron to sail back to King's Landing (which could be short since we don't know how far Yara's fleet made it south), and then to sail back out of King's Landing all the way around the continent to Casterly Rock - was the same amount of time it took from Theon entering the water to being fished out of the water
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Jul 31, 2017 22:51
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how much time is "three episodes"
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Jul 31, 2017 22:52
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etalian posted:But it's sort of lazy to re-use the same Dany makes a dumb decision and gets saved by a string of magical Deus Ex Machina style events. Not disagreeing with that.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:52
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Groovelord Neato posted:are you people even serious anymore.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:53
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Literally it is not. Where's the to-scale map showing us Casterly Rock and High Garden? do we have to post screenshots of the map cersei stands on in multiple episodes or the one Dany looks at or what here
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Jul 31, 2017 22:54
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The show at this point is paced fast enough that we see ravens fly away in one scene and arrive in the next one. Does this mean the show literally thinks ravens travel instantaneously
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Jul 31, 2017 22:54
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Literally it is not. Where's the to-scale map showing us Casterly Rock and High Garden? https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/game-of-thrones-westeros-mapped/ http://www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-map-compared-to-earth-2015-6 https://winteriscoming.net/2015/11/10/game-of-thrones-fan-tabulates-distances-between-places-in-westeros/ Based on GRRM's own statements, the show's own statements, the book's own statements; plainly says: It's 1500 real world miles from King's Landing to Winterfell. The Wall is 300 miles long. Its 630 miles from Winterfell to The Wall GRRM also states that Westeros is the size of South America.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:56
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Feels Villeneuve posted:how much time is "three episodes" In previous seasons they made it clear that time has passed with either statement or simple scene structure. None of that now. It doesn't matter how much time has actually passed, the show as structured makes people think things are jumping around and teleporting and that means its doing a bad job
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Jul 31, 2017 22:57
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Groovelord Neato posted:are you people even serious anymore.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:58
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Also this is a book series where at the start of one of the books GRRM basically goes "yes the timeline is screwy if you try to follow it literally, deal with it"
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Jul 31, 2017 22:59
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Sure fine, you can go from Casterly Rock to King's Landing in a very short time. So the unsullied can now go straight to King's Landing while the Lannister army is in the Reach. Cunning plan, Jaime.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:59
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mastershakeman posted:do we have to post screenshots of the map cersei stands on in multiple episodes or the one Dany looks at or what here The unlabeled set dressing? That's just to illustrate that they're Talking War Strategy. "Casterly Rock" and "King's Landing" labels are never ever once shown on the screen simultaneously. The show has never given the viewer any reason to believe that unreasonable time/distance combinations have occurred. When they fished Theon out of the water, he did not press "Stop" on a stopwatch and read off the days/hours/seconds. This is straight up, "Yoda trained Luke over the course of the Cloud City dinner party" levels of silliness Also you legitimately cannot use anything from The Books as evidence for the show.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:59
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Phi230 posted:https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/game-of-thrones-westeros-mapped/ None of this is remotely applicable to HBO's Game of Thrones
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Jul 31, 2017 23:00
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Time is passing faster because it is close to the end of the series and they want it to be paced faster, and at this point we don't particularly want to wait four episodes for Dany to send Jon a raven, Jon to receive it, and Jon to go to Dragonstone.
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Jul 31, 2017 23:01
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:None of this is remotely applicable to HBO's Game of Thrones yeah you're actually retarded
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Jul 31, 2017 23:03
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The unlabeled set dressing? That's just to illustrate that they're Talking War Strategy. "Casterly Rock" and "King's Landing" labels are never ever once shown on the screen simultaneously. lol so blackwater bay isn't a place on the map without a label? cool I'm sure anyone could overlay the credit maps with the cersei floor or Dany table maps to label things but you'd just say the credits aren't part of the show because you're being insanely pedantic to prove a point for idiots
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Jul 31, 2017 23:03
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Phi230 posted:yeah you're actually retarded lol I'm not. Did you catch the crazy plot hole in the show where Euron doesn't have a brother named Victarion? Oops!!
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Jul 31, 2017 23:04
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:None of this is remotely applicable to HBO's Game of Thrones Except it is, since Season 1 they've established the long time associated with taking the King's Road from King's Landing to Winterfell when Robert brought his horrible not-kids to visit Ned to give him the hand job.
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Jul 31, 2017 23:04
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apparently the show just willed 99% of Westeros into existence for the scene where Cersei stands on a map of westeros literally exactly the same in all ways as any map of westeros ever printed
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Jul 31, 2017 23:04
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The show has never given the viewer any reason to believe that unreasonable time/distance combinations have occurred. When people meet in person, that means time has to matter somewhat.
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Jul 31, 2017 23:05
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:lol apparently in your incredibly smooth brain HBO's Game of Thrones does not take place in Westeros and the entirety of Dunk and Egg, World of Ice and Fire, and 5 books are all novelizations of the TV series
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Jul 31, 2017 23:06
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Just pause the show and wait for enough time to pass.
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Jul 31, 2017 23:06
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