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I'm using a Mac Mini 2012 and 4k HEVC content is unplayable; just a stuttery mess. As in like 2fps level slow. Is this normal? I fully expect it to thrash the CPU hard but I've played 4k video on windows laptops with weaker specs than this and not had too much of a problem, even if they did get a bit loud.
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Generic Monk posted:I'm using a Mac Mini 2012 and 4k HEVC content is unplayable; just a stuttery mess. As in like 2fps level slow. Is this normal? I fully expect it to thrash the CPU hard but I've played 4k video on windows laptops with weaker specs than this and not had too much of a problem, even if they did get a bit loud. 4k HEVC requires hardware decoding on any system that doesn't have a beefy CPU. All modern Intel CPUs, even the low-end Atoms and Celerons have this integrated.
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Jul 29, 2017 23:26
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Hope not everyone jumps to HEVC immediately as it's going to force users to check their hardware. High Sierra only claims hardware accelerated HEVC on 2016 model Macs and I *think* there's the same on fourth gen AppleTV and iPhoneys 6 and up, but everything else is out in the cold / software assisted. Netflix HTML5 is very nice at least..
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Jul 30, 2017 18:35
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No gods, no ports, no h264.
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Isn't HEVC sort of stillborn due to weird patent shenanigans?
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Jul 30, 2017 19:14
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HEVC came to FaceTime in 2014 with the iPhone 6. FaceTime will detect if both ends support HEVC and use it when possible.
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Jul 30, 2017 19:40
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Come iOS11 iPhones will even save Photos in HEVC instead of JPEG. The standard is called High Efficiency Image File Format (HEIF), I wonder if that will lead to hardware decoding for images? Would be nice for scrolling through thousands of pictures in Photos for Sierra.  More info here: https://nokiatech.github.io/heif/comparison.html eames fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jul 30, 2017 |
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Jul 30, 2017 19:48
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Comparing the 2017 MacBook to the 2015 and 2016, it looks like the same design - are the 2016 and 2017 models just spec bumps (newer CPU, .etc)?
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Small White Dragon posted:Comparing the 2017 MacBook to the 2015 and 2016, it looks like the same design - are the 2016 and 2017 models just spec bumps (newer CPU, .etc)? wikipedia says yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_(Retina) Even worse it's a spec bumped mCore which as far as I can tell is just a really expensive pentium.
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Small White Dragon posted:Comparing the 2017 MacBook to the 2015 and 2016, it looks like the same design - are the 2016 and 2017 models just spec bumps (newer CPU, .etc)? I'm pretty sure they tweaked the keyboard as well. For what it's worth the reviews on both the 2016 and 2017 macbook have commented that the spec bump on the cpu is a pretty substantial one. The original CPUs on the 2015 model were really anaemic. I wouldn't be buying a new macbook if you already have one but if the purpose of your post was to contemplate whether to buy a previous gen model to save money I definitely wouldn't.
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The Lord Bude posted:I'm pretty sure they tweaked the keyboard as well. This is enough to upgrade.
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The keyboard on the 2016-2017 models really is nice but it's clicky so if that's a turnoff... Also it's thinner and the apple no longer lights up (it's chrome now) and at least the 15" only has USB-c ports. No regular USB ports, card slot, or mag-safe. And the track-pad is the size of a football field. GutBomb fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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Jul 31, 2017 13:42
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MacBook, not MacBook Pro. It absolutely DOES make sense to get a 2015 MacBook Pro, if you want ports, MagSafe and an SD card slot. It doesn't make much sense to buy a 2015 MacBook.
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Bob Morales posted:This is enough to upgrade. I found some comparative pictures of the 2016 and 2017 MacBooks, but the keyboards pretty much look the same to me?
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Small White Dragon posted:What's changed? I came across a 2016 MacBook, and it looks like the same keyboard used in the current MBPs (sans touch bar, of course). The 2017 MacBooks use the second generation switches with longer travel. The MBP has this same keyboard as well. They visually look the same because the changes are underneath. https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/07/that-new-keyboard-is-the-key-to-apples-macbook-update/
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Small White Dragon posted:What's changed? I came across a 2016 MacBook, and it looks like the same keyboard used in the current MBPs (sans touch bar, of course). 2nd generation butterfly switches/domes
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Appreciate all the feedback, everybody. Two other random things: 1) Do MacBooks/MBPs these days still have that problem where, after a while, there are "marks" on the screen where the edges of the keys presumably press up against them? Any way to prevent that? 2) What's the favorite USB-C dongle/dock to connect to, well, most everything?
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Small White Dragon posted:Appreciate all the feedback, everybody. Two other random things: My MBA had that issue but 2016 tbMBP hasn't yet, and I was more concerned because the screen is insanely thin.
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Small White Dragon posted:Appreciate all the feedback, everybody. Two other random things: Nah, I have a 2016 15" rMBP and no marks at all. For USB-C stuff I got this: Replaced the power cable with this, because I like braided cords (Anker): https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerLine-Durability-Including-Nintendo/dp/B01LNA0XCU Get a couple of these for thumb drives and stuff (Anker): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AHKYIRS I got this USBC to USB mini B for my Samsung T1 SSD drive (Cable Creations) https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-USB-C-Micro-B-Macbook-Chromebook/dp/B012V56992 I got this along with a MacBook for my nephews graduation. I also got work to buy one for me. Highly recommend if you are getting a MacBook. Nice if you want to use a monitor with the rMBP (Anker) (USB C power in, 2 USB 3.0, 4KHDMI, SD reader, GigE ethernet port) https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Anker-Mini-Dock-Ethernet-Chromebook/dp/B072F2M874 Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 00:50
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So that USB-C cable works to power a MBP? Because that’s surprisingly cheap and not even a lovely knock off brand.
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Krispy Kareem posted:So that USB-C cable works to power a MBP? Because that’s surprisingly cheap and not even a lovely knock off brand. Well it just replaces the cable that comes with it. You still need to plug it into the power brick, but yeah I just like the way it looks and it doesn't get near as grimy from tossing it in a bag every day.
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I recalled Switch owners paying $60 for just the Apple USB-C cable because everything else was hot garbage. So I was surprised they’d come down in price (assuming Anker isn’t cheaping out on quality).
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Krispy Kareem posted:I recalled Switch owners paying $60 for just the Apple USB-C cable because everything else was hot garbage. So I was surprised they’d come down in price (assuming Anker isn’t cheaping out on quality). Are you sure it's not because you can only get the cable with a power supply? I just checked the online and it's not available as a stand-alone cable. However, I did some digging and it appears that the Anker 2m cable (USBC<>USBC) is a use at your own risk for the 15". It looks like it's only rated for 60w. So while it will work fine for the rMB and the 13" rMBPs, it's not recommended for the 87w brick the 15" comes with. I mean mine demonstrably worked, but I'm using it far out of spec. It's annoying, but I'm glad I thought to look into it more because the last thing I want to do is burn down the house pushing too much power over it.
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Proteus Jones posted:Are you sure it's not because you can only get the cable with a power supply? I just checked the online and it's not available as a stand-alone cable. ?
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Well, what the hell. I did store>Accessories>Made by Apple>Cables and it didn't come up. Fake Edit: For fucks sake it's under "chargers"
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That is odd. I could have sworn the cable alone was $60 at Apple.
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Proteus Jones posted:However, I did some digging and it appears that the Anker 2m cable (USBC<>USBC) is a use at your own risk for the 15". It looks like it's only rated for 60w. So while it will work fine for the rMB and the 13" rMBPs, it's not recommended for the 87w brick the 15" comes with. I mean mine demonstrably worked, but I'm using it far out of spec. It's annoying, but I'm glad I thought to look into it more because the last thing I want to do is burn down the house pushing too much power over it. USC power delivery is meant to be smart and negotiate so it should work safely, just charge more slowly.
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Proteus Jones posted:Replaced the power cable with this, because I like braided cords (Anker): edit: website says the cable won't charge MacBook Pro 87W at full speed https://www.anker.com/products/variant/PowerLine%2B-3ft-USB-C-to-USB-C-2.0-/A8187091 edit: gently caress, beaten. Housh fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Before I click buy, I thought I would ask here. My mid 2009 17" MacBook pro died. Like won't turn on anymore, it takes maybe 100 presses of the power button to get lucky and have it boot. When it does it doesn't stay running long. I have tried putting the mainboard in the oven and it helped for about 6 months, but at this point I am going to grab the SSD out of it and call it a loss. I was thinking that a 27" imac retina would be a good fit since I have a PC laptop I can use when needed. Overall I have been happy with the 8 years I have gotten out of the MBP. My question is what upgrades are worth it on the new imac? I selected the i7 processor/radeon pro 580. Apple still wants big bucks for extra ram and a cursory glance on amazon suggests I can diy cheaper provided its not soldered on. Is the hard drive upgradeable or is it all soldered on? Apple seems to want a premium for a ssd, so I am leaning towards the 2TB fusion drive.
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rdb posted:Before I click buy, I thought I would ask here. Ram is easy, it's just an access door on the back. You can do it yourself. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+27-Inch+Retina+5K+Display+RAM+Replacement/30533 HDD/SSD is another can of worms. Either one will need to have the glass removed and that means breaking the adhesive seal. If you wanna swap the HDD, it's located on the side of the mainboard and is easily accessible once you get the glass off. If you wanna swap the SSD though, it's located on the back of the mainboard. You will need to remove nearly all the components to swap it out (and it's not a standard M.2 drive anyways) https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+27-Inch+Retina+5K+Display+SSD+Replacement/30537 If you want SSD, either get it built in or buy the HDD version and swap with another SATA SSD.
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Whether you choose to do it yourself or buy the upgrade from apple, I wouldn't suggest anyone buy a computer without an SSD in 2017, it's the most substantial all round noticeable upgrade you can make. It's worth pointing out that the SSDs apple uses are the very best, many cheaper SSDs are poo poo and you have to do your research. The RAM you can upgrade yourself very easily and cheaply if you want to, but most people don't need more than 8gb of RAM, unless they're video editing, or doing serious intensive work on the computer - If you're just going to be surfing the web and watching netflix and doing office stuff it's a waste of money. Same goes for the i7.
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Thanks. I am going to go with the 2TB Fusion, I cant justify what they want for a SSD if I can eventually swap the 3.5" part of the drive myself. Or just use a really fast external drive. Heres to hoping it lasts a decade this time around. E: The I7 was $180 over the I5. Not going to lose sleep over that. The fusion drive, from what I gather, is a 128gb SSD on the mainboard for the OS and a separate spinning drive for the rest. Should be good enough. I usually go for the upgraded stuff because I use it for so long. My previous (to the one that is dead now) macbook pro core duo lasted me 4 years and my mother kept it another 6. It still ran when she traded it in. As far as what I do with it, photo editing, maybe editing videos of my kid. Its mostly that I have time machine backups going back years that keep me on the mac platform. I have an apple tv for netflix and an iphone for browsing. rdb fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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rdb posted:Before I click buy, I thought I would ask here. What will you use it for? Whatever the case may be get an SSD.
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rdb posted:Thanks. I am going to go with the 2TB Fusion, I cant justify what they want for a SSD if I can eventually swap the 3.5" part of the drive myself. Or just use a really fast external drive. Heres to hoping it lasts a decade this time around. People on here hate on the fusion drive often. I have the 2tb one ano think the machine runs great. Best computer I've ever owned
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My issue is they want $600 for a 1TB SSD over the base 2TB fusion drive. If it annoys me I am confident enough that I can open it up and change it myself for less.
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rdb posted:Thanks. I am going to go with the 2TB Fusion, I cant justify what they want for a SSD if I can eventually swap the 3.5" part of the drive myself.. Couple of things to mention here: Apple's current policy is to stick you with a 24/32 GB SSD if you order only a 1 TB Fusion Drive. If you order a 2 TB or bigger, they give you a 128 GB SSD. Note that if you order an iMac with 24/32 GB or higher RAM, slowdown will occur because when the iMac goes to sleep, the OS will try to save a RAM image that's as big as your RAM space, so you overflow the SSD and hit the physical drive; wakeups might be slower because the RAM image will be saved to the physical drive rather than the SSD. tl;dr: If you want a Fusion Drive just order the 2 TB if you want to save yourself any hassles. The lovely part is they used to give you a 256 GB SSD on any Fusion Drive, but guess that's just Apple trying to pinch pennies again. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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If you want to keep your existing SSD drive too, you can stick it in a Thunderbolt external case and get decent speeds off it. No point it going to waste.
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Binary Badger posted:tl;dr: If you want a Fusion Drive just order the 2 TB if you want to save yourself any hassles. The lovely part is they used to give you a 256 GB SSD on any Fusion Drive, but guess that's just Apple trying to pinch pennies again. I'm pretty sure the SSD portion of the Fusion Drive has never been larger than 128 GB.
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Weedle posted:I'm pretty sure the SSD portion of the Fusion Drive has never been larger than 128 GB. I stand corrected Either way if you want to future proof your iMac get the 2 TB+ option
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