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Concerned Citizen posted:the legislature passed same sex marriage multiple times, and it was veto'ed by schwarzenegger. the other 10 were legislative without court action. the dems were capable of passing resolutions while they knew a republican would veto them, but the second they regained power somehow couldn't find the votes? ~hmmmmm~
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https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/892133418653417474 looks like peter found his new queen. Tired: Hillary Rodham Clinton Wired: Senator Kamala of the House Harris, First of Her Name, the Unburnt, Queen of the Congresional Hearings 
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Concerned Citizen posted:the legislature passed same sex marriage multiple times, and it was veto'ed by schwarzenegger. the other 10 were legislative without court action. they did that with singlepayer too. now they have a supermajority and the governorship, they're blocking it!
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Concerned Citizen posted:the legislature passed same sex marriage multiple times, and it was veto'ed by schwarzenegger. the other 10 were legislative without court action. Ahh, so legislative action in the sense of Republicans voting to repeal Obamacare 100 times, got it. This site claims there were only eight that legalized with legislative action. 26 that legalized through courts. And 3 by popular vote. http://gaymarriage.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004857
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Lastgirl posted:You have been stung by the Bee Man's Purity Thank you Easter Bee Man! Bawk bawk!
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Condiv posted:how much grassroots movement since apparently public support for gay marriage was enough to reach the supreme court's old man justices, but not enough to get dems to lift a finger? seems like literally the entire nation needs to show up in D.C. to convince dems they need to do something about a popular issue i mean, again, dems did get it passed in 10 states and more were on the way. dc dems took action on dadt and tried multiple times to pass the respect for marriage act, but they did not have the votes to pass it. the closest might have been 2009 but there wasn't enough support to get it to the house floor even with 120 cosponsors, and it did not have obama's support until 2011. so i think the idea that grassroots support didn't materialize into congressional support just isn't true.
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Concerned Citizen posted:i mean, again, dems did get it passed in 10 states and more were on the way. dc dems took action on dadt and tried multiple times to pass the respect for marriage act, but they did not have the votes to pass it. the closest might have been 2009 but there wasn't enough support to get it to the house floor even with 120 cosponsors, and it did not have obama's support until 2011. so i think the idea that grassroots support didn't materialize into congressional support just isn't true. thank god the supreme court got us gay marriage cause every time the dems try to do something it's like a 3 stooges comedy routine
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Concerned Citizen posted:of course dems chase voters that don't already exist. this is actually the most popular thing among democratic parties - get more students to vote, expand voting rights, help felons vote, register more people to vote, etc. countering voter suppression has been a big dem thing for years. i mean, remember terry mcauliffe auto-penning all those felon rights restorations in virginia because the courts told him he couldn't blanket restore them? dont quote me or my posts ever again
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Scent of Worf posted:https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/892133418653417474 ok so shes the vetted establishment pick got it
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anime was right posted:dont quote me or my posts ever again hm (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Scent of Worf posted:https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/892133418653417474 "don't damage the rising stars, only damage the guy who is already our only actual star."
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Condiv posted:they did that with singlepayer too. now they have a supermajority and the governorship, they're blocking it! they can't pass an unfunded mandate silly, they might have to find some way to fund it if they did
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i don't think he likes you maybe because you spend every waking second in the thread trolling?
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Concerned Citizen posted:well there's short term and long term strategy. in the short term it's just imperative that we take back the majority. a gop congress and a gop president are going to kill a lot of people, but if winning 3 seats in orange county with centrists is necessary in 2018 to take back the house, i'm all for it. in the longer term, there needs to be a sustained focus on moving these districts left by organizing more effectively. like we do a lot of work to promote candidates but virtually no work to promote policies. that really needs to change! if your short-term strategy and your long-term strategy are contradictory, then one will fail. recruiting conservatives in the short term while fostering leftism in the long term works about as well as having what a certain major Dem personality might call a public position and a private position the important part of that survey is that single-payer support is up five points in six months, and nine points among Dems. it's almost as if a policy gets more popular when the politicians aren't dismissing it as impossible nonsense. but sure, maybe it's not quite there yet. in the meantime, maybe the Dems could pursue some sort of public option, which has 60% support among voters and 85% among Dems, according to that poll. too bad conservative Dems torpedoed it at the insistence of the insurance industry as for same sex marriage, the "breakthrough" there was that the courts thought banning it was unconstitutional and ruled that way over and over and over again until Obergefell finally settled it once and for all for the few states that still continued to hold out in the face of a clear judicial trend
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Weeping Wound posted:what a terrible way to go, stung by bees :/ rip CC as the hallucinogenic properties of the dead bees' stingers course through his veins as he continues to make longer and double downy contradicting posts
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anime was right posted:ok so shes the vetted establishment pick got it Also just like Dread Abuela a coastal canidate and also finds free prison slave labor to be a very useful concept.
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Concerned Citizen posted:i mean, again, dems did get it passed in 10 states and more were on the way. dc dems took action on dadt and tried multiple times to pass the respect for marriage act, but they did not have the votes to pass it. the closest might have been 2009 but there wasn't enough support to get it to the house floor even with 120 cosponsors, and it did not have obama's support until 2011. so i think the idea that grassroots support didn't materialize into congressional support just isn't true. if there weren't enough votes to pass it even with clear Dem majorities, then Congressional support clearly didn't materialize the fact that Obama and Dem leadership did fuckall gay rights for two years of completely controlling Congress, and then suddenly discovered a deep commitment to LGBT equality right after losing the House, was one of the first major things to really get me cynical about the Dems as a whole
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Got your boy turning every knob to the right Every button with an arrow up crushed 'Til my vision is bright white Mute the dialogue, watch the lips move Change the script around, make that bullshit tight
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Condiv posted:thank god the supreme court got us gay marriage cause every time the dems try to do something it's like a 3 stooges comedy routine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFkV73aluB4 FuriousxGeorge posted:Ahh, so legislative action in the sense of Republicans voting to repeal Obamacare 100 times, got it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGRlmO5uf9o
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Condiv posted:i don't think he likes you i was joking, i just dont read any of CCs posts. it works p well imo.
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Scent of Worf posted:https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/892133418653417474 I wanna rip into Daou with a snarky quip about femdom, but then I'd be kink-shaming myself.
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Concerned Citizen posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFkV73aluB4 
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htank oyu uprity ebe edit: i mean, thank you purity bee
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:htank oyu uprity ebe h.o.u.e 
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back to the future had the superior saturday morning cartoon. don't fukkin @ me on this
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radical meme posted:So the portion of that 60% that's going to vote GOP in every election until the day they die doesn't matter to you? I don't know what you mean but if you're saying we should somehow appeal to right-wing Republicans my answer is no, we should not do that. We should have our own policies rather than trying to pander to voters. At the end of the day elections exist to elect national leaders and that's what politicians are, and I don't see any reason a nation's leaders should placate its conservative population "to be fair" or whatever.
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but even bttf could not compare to freakazoid hardly anything could
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:but what makes the maid happy? does she also get a maid and takeout??? You're each others maids and order takeout all the time. That's a little thing they call love folks.
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hey guys it doesnt take a lot of  for me to say" we get more youth turnout with socialist messaging and actively curb voter suppression, as well as target social/wealth inequality to increase yer chances of winning but actually follow through on those platforms, because thats where the independents voters went to Trump because they wanted the money back in their pockets even though some of them are dumb insecure racist bigots, thats the whole concept of equality."  no amount of will alter that reality whatsoeverThug Lessons posted:I don't know what you mean but if you're saying we should somehow appeal to right-wing Republicans my answer is no, we should not do that. We should have our own policies rather than trying to pander to voters. At the end of the day elections exist to elect national leaders and that's what politicians are, and I don't see any reason a nation's leaders should placate its conservative population "to be fair" or whatever. agreed, trying to convert republican party loyalists is like inserting medicine into a dead corpse. yer better off setting their party on fire and eradicating it with stronger social policies like never seen before
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One thing that liberals don't seem to realize is that Trump doesn't have to be liked. He can just accomplish things and make an enormous historical impact. Thankfully he seems to be unable to, but it's not at all guaranteed he won't be able to, say, appoint another Supreme Court Justice and swing it to the Republican side. And they'll have allowed that because their policy was appeasement towards conservatives, a policy greased with corporate money and ideological weakness. Liberals have more or less failed to deliver even on the very modest promise they offered, and the only way you're going to avoid right-wing catastrophe is to abandon liberalism for leftism ASAP.
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How does a purity bee work, is the only word I have to spell purity or is it something else
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than-q b-man
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bipartisanship is a mealy mouth excused to collaborate with the devil
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Thug Lessons posted:One thing that liberals don't seem to realize is that Trump doesn't have to be liked. He can just accomplish things and make an enormous historical impact. Thankfully he seems to be unable to, but it's not at all guaranteed he won't be able to, say, appoint another Supreme Court Justice and swing it to the Republican side. And they'll have allowed that because their policy was appeasement towards conservatives, a policy greased with corporate money and ideological weakness. Liberals have more or less failed to deliver even on the very modest promise they offered, and the only way you're going to avoid right-wing catastrophe is to abandon liberalism for leftism ASAP. Bad dems may have laughed over stuff like his Obamacare repeal failure but he's already passed hundreds of insane executive laws in the short time he was in office. Stuff like getting rid of Obama's coal waste regulations or directly gutting the EPA's resources.
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jerry seinfeld is the purity bee , that we all know and love, from bee movie
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logikv9 posted:How does a purity bee work, is the only word I have to spell purity or is it something else if ur impure, you get stung to death
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impurity is a cornerstone of being human
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Lastgirl posted:hey guys
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logikv9 posted:impurity is a cornerstone of being human thats why bees aren't human  to be b*~l~*e~*s~*s'd by the purity bee is no normal task
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:but that's racsexism ya thast why you target social inequality as it was said you just laugh at their stupid ideas and promote welfare and goodness for humanity instead if you have to stop and listen to them, then thats definitely a problem yer enabling
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