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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Your Taint posted:

Wait so if the last place challenge nom either wins veto or has it used on them, do they get replaced?

Presumably there's no replacement just like there wasn't if Ramses had won POV.

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Matt discusses how he thinks Paul is better than Derrick and one of the best BB players of all time.

Paul tells Jess that everyone is down with the deal and they're willing to come in a room together with Jess. Jess is open to that. She said she asked production on clarification of something about her Hex and she wants to get word back about that. Before she fought with Cody she was saying something about being unsure of whether she has to play the Hex before the votes or can wait until after, so she probably wants it as assurance. Paul keeps pushing how she's the better gamer than Cody and she's not going to be looked at badly for not saving him. He says that her and Cody will have a chance outside this house but the game is a once in a lifetime thing.

Paul: You have a major connection with Cody and its not going anywhere.
Jess: Eh.



Jess asks Cody if he wants to talk and he says no. She asks him if he's ok and he says yes. She asks him to come outside with her and he says he was already outside. She gives him a kiss. Jess apologizes if she let Cody down. Cody says she doesn't have to be sorry for anything. She apologizes if he's ever felt she didn't support him. He says she's been nothing but loyal to him and she's amazing. She hopes he has time to calm down. Cody says he wants to go and not to use the Hex. Jess asks what about them and Cody says they can figure it out after the show. Jess thinks life will be easier outside the house.

Paul reassures Mark that he's good again. Mark talks lots of trash about Alex and Christmas and how excited everyone will be to see them targeted next after Cody. Paul plays all into it. Paul advises him to joke around with Josh. Mark says he "scared the poo poo out of him" and "that doesn't work in this house." Bullying is a more effective and accepted social tactic outside the house, Mark. Sure. Mark complains about floaters and how people don't want to win HOHs and he hates it. Mark, if the people you don't like don't want to win HOH that's good. Mark has completed his weekly transition from "world turned upside down and panicking" to "thinks he's 100% safe and poo poo talking his targets to people." I look forward to next week's edition of this.

Jessica telling Raven that Cody can't deal with the lies and deception and disloyalty of Big Brother because loyalty and honor and truth are instilled in him as a soldier and Raven has something similar of some kind with her illness. Blah blah blah. Jess doesn't want to abandon Cody at this time and thinks people poo poo talking him on TV looks bad because she's a soldier. Raven knows this a backhanded attack at her and defends why she walked away from the fights yesterday because it brought stuff up or something.

Kevin and Jason asking what the point of Cody continuing in this game is when no one can stand him and is targeting him.

Paul collects Mark, Elena, Matt, Raven, and Jessica to discuss her deal. Christmas is supposed to be there but she has to get medicine from DR and Mark and Matt are heavily bothered by that. They all promise her to not put her up the next two weeks and target Alex next week. Jessica makes it clear she NEEDS Alex out if they she's going to sacrifice Cody. Mark says he hates her too anyway. The rest all say she's a beast so it makes sense. Christmas joins and agrees. They all assure her Cody has always been the one and only target. Jess says she understands that they are uncomfortable with Cody but he was at war and "the government conditioned him in a certain way" and he doesn't take lies and disloyalty well. She says his actions aren't defensible but she adores him, will defend him, and no one should ever "shut doors or their hearts" to a vet. Paul says they've never wanted her to abandon Cody but what she says just further speaks to why this game is a bad environment for Cody and it only gets worse. Jess doesn't want Cody portrayed in a negative way. Too late! Jessica says that if the DR tells her "no" to the question she asked then they have to pull her off with the POV. So she's definitely asking if she can wait until after the votes. Paul says they can figure that out together and Jess says they'll tell her before the Ceremony. There's a lot of fish here as they talk about production.

Maven and Jessica leave. Mark talks about how much he hates Alex and thinks she's been instigating everything between him and Josh (I mean, she does but she's hardly the source of it). Christmas is quasi confused by this random new piece of Mark anger and spite but gets on board to play ball.

Mark leaves and Elena tells Christmas and Paul that they're the only two people who know that Elena is "separating" herself from Mark. Paul apologizes for making a joke about the two of them and blames force of habit. He says Mark's behavior might change with Cody gone. Elena says the Josh stuff was hard to see. Christmas asks if if was hard pulling back and Elena says it was for him and asks them to be nice to him because he's sad.

After Elena leaves
Christmas: Nice work. Are you like casting spells on these fuckers?
Christmas tells Paul that she doesn't think anyone's one conversation got to Jess, just all the stuff finally sunk in with her that "its only Cody." Paul says he's going to literally poo poo his pants if this works. Paul says he's playing up the target on Alex to Mark and Christmas says she didn't want to push it too much and make it look fake. They talk about how Mark just doesn't know what he's saying and just gives away his entire game when he talks. Christmas tells a story about her hearing Mark and Jessica talking and having to sneak away and Paul says when he's bored he just watches her scooting around on the TV. Paul thinks there's going to be a Double Eviction because Jess is saying "two evictions" and not "two weeks". Paul wants Mark/Alex noms next week but Christmas says Elena is a bigger threat and she's scared right now because she's not in the inner circle. They aren't clear on how many weeks Jess still has left on her Hex. Jess is claiming 2 after this week but I'm pretty sure its 1. They realize they can't blindside her twice (four times). They decide they're thinking too far ahead. Paul tells her about Mark bitching about her and says she might be in trouble if he wins HOH. Paul says they can't forget the way Mark and Elena flipped last week. Paul says Christmas was right to be suspicious about Mark before all of them. He doesn't know why Mark won't drop his problems with her.

Christmas: I like that he thinks I'm aggressive.
Paul: He's scared of you.
Christmas: Good.
Paul: And he's probably annoyed that you know more about working out than him.

Paul tells Kevin and Jason that "the eagle has landed." Kevin says Cody was saying he wants to "jump on the grenade" but he thinks Jess is too loyal to not use the Hex.

Cody's moping in bed and Jessica is spooning him kissing him and trying to get a response. Mark comes in and asks if he's ok. Cody asks why he's getting double teamed and Mark splits. Jess says she thinks when Cody sees the show she'll see he was always supported. Cody says he's never had anything but 1000% trust and loyalty. Cody says she doesn't need him. Jess asks if he doesn't want to be with her anymore and he doesn't answer. Cody talks about ghosting her. Jess asks if he's done with the game or her. Cody says he hasn't been himself and he's miserable. He says her questioning him this morning isn't something he wants in her life. She wants to explain but he says the second someone does that he's done. Jess tries to explain herself anyway and Cody doesn't care. Jess says yesterday he complained that nothing he could say could satisfy her and that's how she feels now. She says she's trying so that if this doesn't work out she knows she tried everything. Cody is saying nothing. So instead Jess mounts him and its off to the races.

Solid odds that Jess is using the Hex again before the day is through.

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


Just so we're clear, is the plan to have Jess and Cody up and blindside eliminate Jess? This will be hilarious.

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

As far as I can tell the plan is to get Jess on board with not using the Hex to save Cody and letting him get evicted.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Yeah, that's it as of right now. They're just lying to Jess about what they'll do after that because they have no intention to target Alex and every intention to target her at the first chance the Hex is done.

They want Cody gone. He's a violent, aggressive malcontent who they're all annoyed already got a second chance and could get a 3rd. They're also wary that there could be a Jury Battle Back and if they don't get him out now he could get another chance. They have kind of acknowledged that they made a mistake sending Dom out instead of Jess and letting them get reunited with the Hex. And they don't want to have to live with him in the Jury House.

That could change if Jess stays on the block and a few people might think she's the bigger game threat and they could blindside her and eliminate the Hex. And Alex has already suggested it. But I think Cody's way too aggressively toxic to survive an actual vote.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jul 31, 2017

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Elena breaks up Jody's breakup sex.
Jess: We're just cuddling.
Elena: Cuddling with his penis in your vagina?

Josh is pretty overtly hitting on Elena now that she's broken up with Mark. He's doing this at least partly to gently caress with Mark.

After sex Cody asks Jess if she'll use the Hex. Jess deflects and calls him bipolar. For right now I think she's set on letting go but that could easily change. But Jess also mumbles something about Paul using the POV to take Cody down and put up Alex so I'm not sure what the nutbag is thinking right now.

Have I mention Mark's just running around in his underwear? His white underwear? While jogging and working out so all sweaty? Now Jess is just outside in her underwear too. Its like Paul has all the camera awareness in the world and the rest have none.

Cody tells Jess about his plans to refuse to answer questions after the show and "ghost" everyone. He only intends to do what he's obligated to. He's basically delivering his own "Let Death Take You" speech. He also says he doesn't like sales jobs because you have to lie to people. Jess tells him he's too good for this house. Jessica says people come into the game thinking they can play it differently but they're just dreamers. Jess is doing her self delusion thing where she's convincing herself why really all of this is in their control and about what good people they are.

Raven tells Paul that if Alex or Jason win they're putting up Jess and forcing her to use her Hex and then put up Mark/Elena. Raven says they can put her up and she can convince Jess to use her Hex immediately. They still don't understand what the Hex is, which is just dumb at this stage. Like, Jessica has been as unclear as humanly possible about her power but its getting silly.

Cody has a massive headache. Remember, they switched out his coffee with decaf.

Mark's dick keeps coming out. He's making a whole thing of it. He could just put pants on. Mark's engaging in some kind of weird self assuring exhibitionism at this stage.

Jess tells Cody that she has to use her Hex before the vote and that's a shame because "it could have assured us Jury." Huh? I'm not sure what Jess is thinking here. Jess is very pleased that Alex, Kevin, and Jason were "clearly paranoid" about being secluded from the meeting she had with Paul and them earlier. Jess thinks Paul was planning to put up Alex this week. She thinks if he uses POV to pull her down, she goes up, and then no one gets evicted because of the Hex it will cause lots of problems between them and make her happy. So she's using it now? I'm lost with these two morons.

Elena's on slop for 13 more days so I guess she must have gone for the chip yesterday and it got lost in the madness.

Jess is annoyed that the Jury House will be an hour away from her home while right now she's just 15 minutes from home. Somehow this matters. Everyone else is in the house having a loud, good time and Cody says that if Josh is somehow "cool" in this house then he doesn't want to be a part of whatever is "cool" in this house. Jess gets that. Mark joins and Cody asks him how he feels about Josh being cooler than him in the house. Mark says he doesn't like anything happening in the house. Jess agrees and says they should "all unify" and threaten to walk out if they don't throw Josh out. All three of you? Mark complains about Elena making nice with Josh when he couldn't with Dom (no one actually was forcing Mark not to talk to Dom and a bunch of people, including Josh, did try and talk to her). Cody says Mark is playing the middle wants to go one way but knows it wouldn't make him safe, but the other way probably won't make him much safer and he'd hate it. He asks Mark how long he's going to keep it up and Mark says he'll see what happens Thursday. Then he complains about floaters. He says the people in the house are driving him insane. He's unhappy about Christmas' slop making skills and again complains about Josh/Elena. Jess agrees and says its the same with Paul because if Paul "told his dog to shut the gently caress up" he would. Jess wishes the "house dog" was cute. Cody says they must have told Josh to stop with the pans but Mark disagrees and says production told him "people have done it before, get over it." Mark claims he was in his face when Mark charged him but production told him he was "across the table." Mark clearly believes production is lying and he didn't charge him. Jess wishes Mark had hit him and thinks he would have been a show hero.

Josh: You look really nice today.
Elena: That was a little too much of a linger if I'm being honest.
Josh: I got no game.
Kevin: Its alright, we'll work on it.

Well, its just Jody cam again so gently caress this. I have better poo poo to do. I'll be back next time they fight or when Jess reveals to Paul her secret plan to get Alex out this week.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Jess tells Paul that she can't use her Hex before the votes and if she's on the block she's worried she'll get voted out to get rid of her power. Paul says since no one knows the Hex has to be used before the votes he can keep that secret and everyone is voting out Cody, but Jess says she doesn't feel comfortable with the gamble. Jess says if he uses the POV to pull her off then she doesn't have to worry. Paul says if he does that Jason, Alex, and Kevin are going to ask why. Jess basically says that's Paul's problem and she's been betrayed so much that she's only interested in a deal that helps her. There's lots of fish during this as they talk about the production rules of how her power gets used. Jess says if Paul's POV speech attacks Cody the deal is off. Paul says he isn't going to be mean but Cody has attacked him personally and he'll say something. Jess goes on about the "you don't know whta he's been through in the war" thing again and asks Paul to be sympathetic and know Cody is a good person. Paul says he's been through this game before and knows that this is a pressure cooker and you're at your worst in the BB house. Jess keeps begging for him not to be portrayed badly and Paul agrees not to say anything but says she has to be trustful of the group. Paul again says this environment is bad for Cody and it only gets worse. He promises not to tell anyone that her power can't be used after votes and she shouldn't tell anyone else.

Christmas is having another good talk with Josh when Alex comes in and she tells her that when they're talking and people come in she should "one up" her. Paul was trying to orchestrate a fake fight between Alex and Christmas but neither want to do that. Instead Christmas has told Mark and Elena that she's having problems with Alex for her "one upping" her stories so now she's getting Alex on board for a more subtle move. So instead of a big, theatrical fake fight a subtle faked difference of opinions. That's pretty clever on Christmas' part. Paul than shows up and dismisses Josh.

Josh: I don't know poo poo.
Paul: You don't need to know poo poo.

Maven tell Alex that Mark's been poo poo talking and targeting her. Alex is non plussed and says she already knew.

Christmas tells Paul that she thinks Elena is still feeding Cody, Jess, and Mark information because he walked in on someone. Paul tells her to ask Elena about it and let him know. Paul fills her in about his talk with Jess and says she asked him not to poo poo on Cody and it sounds like she's leaning towards not using it. He doesn't mention the "before the vote" thing he promised to keep secret or her request to get pulled off the block. Christmas says Cody is checked out.

Oh, also...
Christmas: I was asking her about the situation with Mark and then Mark came through like loving Eeyore.

Paul is thinking stuff out with Josh, Jason, and Kevin. He says if he uses the POV to take Jess off it might make her feel safer about not using the Hex. Paul's probably trying to set the stage for using it. Jason says if she feels bad about the deal she'll use it on or off the block. Josh says Jess has already experienced being alone once and she's not going to want to go through that again and would rather get Cody to Jury where he could have a chance at a Battle Back. This is a very good point but Paul blows it off.

Jessica tells Mark she doesn't know what to do. First she puffs her up saying she'll play a big game no matter what she does and if she wins HOH she's out for blood so people promising her "safety" is nothing (she's the one who asked for it). Jess says Paul is freaking out because if she uses the Hex they don't get to Jury. She has a conspiracy theory about how they shut the morning music off so Paul could talk game and that he wants Cody out. Which should be obvious but Jess thinks its some big thing she figured out. She says she doesn't want to give Paul what he wants. Mark asks if Cody wants to stay and Jess says he keeps "teeter tottering". She doesn't know what to do and says she only feels comfortable talking to Mark and Elena about it. Jess blows more smoke up her own rear end that she wants to be remembered in this game. She says if Cody stays in the game he needs to be be able to handle his poo poo and Mark doubts that. They do more of the "he's been through a war" stuff. Jess is mad that people are saying they don't feel safe living with him and Mark complains that people are doing the same thing with him and Josh. Mark says what they're all telling America is "words don't hurt" and Jess boasts that she told people to "stand up for yourself" in her blog. Jess says if Cody stays he'll be a bigger target then them (eh). Mark whines more about the house and his persecution stuff and how everyone is a floater except him who is playing both sides to be safe. Jess says if anyone but Paul was HOH she'd feel ok with this deal but she just doesn't want to let Paul evict Cody (again). Mark whines more about the Josh thing and how he did nothing wrong (but he says he blacked out so he doesn't know) and he's pissed off Elena's distancing himself from him and Jess is a girl who sticks by her man. Jess asks Mark if he'd put them up if he won HOH and he swears after rambling a bunch about his word and honor and floaters. Jess says if Cody's mind isn't right she won't keep him here. Mark says he hasn't done anything wrong. Jess says the DR called him in today to tell him to calm down and Mark calls it pathetic. They blow each other some more and move on.

Jess: God, I love seeing Alex get fat.
Cody: She is, isn't she?
Jess: Makes me happy.

Jess: I'm done.
Cody: You full?
Jess: Yeah, looking at Alex's gut made me full.

Cody: If anyone asks me anything about her after the show I'm going to be like "What are you guys talking about? She might be a dude."
Jess: She might be.
Cody: She may be a dude. They'll say "you said she was a strong woman." Yeah, because she's a dude.

Mark whines to Jody more about how pathetic it is that Elena ditched him over Josh. Jess says if Elena had a job she'd be more willing to risk. Cody says he doesn't remember the people who make it far in BB but the people who make a big splash. He then runs off "the redhead who won", "the train conductor", and "the farmer" and says no one remembers them but fails to mention someone he does "remember" to prove his point. Also, I assume "the farmer" is Donny and he won lots of poo poo.

An actual quote...
Jess: Steve, is that who won it? I can never remember Steve's name. I just have a hard time remembering his name. Steve.

Cody and Jess rehash their fight from this morning. Cody says he can't deal with people not trusting him. He insists she is responsible for testing him. She says he flipped out by refusing to talk to her and trying to break up with her for the second day in a row and he says he was calm. She says she was worried about him. He says the only drama in his life is what she brings in. She says he's responsible for the drama they're in and he says she is. This somehow isn't a fight.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Josh has offered to show Elena his love by offering to trade places with her as a Have Not. They try to get into DR together and they are let in! A very rare event and a pretty good sign that BB is loving this Josh vs Mark thing and looking forward to an Elena segment addition to it in the near future.

Mark also saw them and heard them giggling together and is not very happy! Also apparently Elena fell asleep while he was talking to her and told Jessica and Mark is mad/sad. Jessica laughed at Eeyore very much. Cody thought it was very disgusting when Mark apologized to Josh. Mark is very mad/sad that he apologized and Elena still broke up with him. Matt understands Elena keeping her distance for game but doesn't get why they can't have a secret romance behind closed doors.

Elosh... Jelna... emerge from DR and announce that production said its never been done before so they have to "look into it."

Josh: They let me run rampant.

Alex: Josh, you're an idiot.

Mark: I'm actually nauseous about everything in this game right now.

Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



haha have we ever had a breakup where they hook up with another while all parties are still in the house? I can't think of one.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Didn't BB4 Alison hook up with the doofy blonde doof when he was HOH, dump him when he became a house target, and then hook up with her ex when he was HOH and was targeting the blonde doof?

There was that silly BB17 Nat/Victor thing that happened pre-feeds before Nat/James but it didn't sound like Nat/Victor did more than cuddle and Nat/James barely passed that.

And there was BB9. Didn't Matt hook up with a couple of people?

I doubt Josh/Elena is really going to go anywhere anyway. Josh is basically doing it to gently caress with Mark and Elena is just hyper sexual and flirty in general.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Real quick before bed...

Jess just unloaded to Elena for over an hour, the basics being laying out how much of a threat she thinks Paul is with all of her reasons - many valid, some repeated from Cody, some petty, and some nuts. Jess says she doesn't care about winning this game or being safe, she knows she's on TV a lot and wants to be a star and she's happy to go out in a blaze of glory. She also doesn't want to give Paul what he wants in sending Cody out and has repeatedly said if it were another HOH she'd feel better about it. On the other hand she's unhappy with the way Cody treated her the last couple of days and concerned with the way he's coming off in the house and on TV with the outbursts and intimidation stuff. She said she was 50/50 and I think its all going to come down to how Cody behaves this week and if he can convince her he is suddenly a new person who won't behave like a psycho. But she wants to believe.

Meanwhile Paul officially approached the subject of blindsiding Jessica with Maven. The fact that Jess told him she has to use the Hex before the votes makes that a viable option for him since he doesn't have to worry about her pulling it out, and he made the point that if they skip that chance they won't get another chance at her for 2 weeks. He also made the obvious points that she's a better player than Cody and Cody will fall apart without her since he has no social game or self control. It was all rather convincing and I think if Jess doesn't use the Hex she's probably going to go home, but Matt was resist for his usual Matt reasons. Basically he's scared of Cody and doesn't want to live with him in Jury while he thinks they can redirect Jess at Josh and Alex if she wins HOH.

Elena ended up talking briefly to Paul and not revealing any of the talk Jess did of him being a big threat and just saying that Jess was undecided on using the Hex. So where Elena stands... well, she probably stands in the middle. She didn't tell Jess anything either.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

STAC Goat posted:

Didn't BB4 Alison hook up with the doofy blonde doof when he was HOH, dump him when he became a house target, and then hook up with her ex when he was HOH and was targeting the blonde doof?

There was that silly BB17 Nat/Victor thing that happened pre-feeds before Nat/James but it didn't sound like Nat/Victor did more than cuddle and Nat/James barely passed that.

And there was BB9. Didn't Matt hook up with a couple of people?

I doubt Josh/Elena is really going to go anywhere anyway. Josh is basically doing it to gently caress with Mark and Elena is just hyper sexual and flirty in general.

Which season was the one with the real-life pairs twist? I seem to recall that there was a pair of real-life exes, one said ex started hooking up with somebody else in the house, like, immediately, and their ex basically lost their goddamn mind and had a breakdown.

As you can see, this is something I was told about rather than having seen myself. It sounded horrible.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Propaganda Machine posted:

Which season was the one with the real-life pairs twist? I seem to recall that there was a pair of real-life exes, one said ex started hooking up with somebody else in the house, like, immediately, and their ex basically lost their goddamn mind and had a breakdown.

As you can see, this is something I was told about rather than having seen myself. It sounded horrible.

I think that was S4 where one of the big muscly guys started throwing chairs and poo poo and got kicked out.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Yeah. S4 was the Ex-Factor where 5 HGs were surprised with 5 of their Exes brought in to play. Early in like Week 1 or 2 two of them (Amanda and David?) hooked up and the girl's ex (Scott?) freaked out and started throwing chairs around and poo poo and got thrown out of the game. Then she was evicted next about the guy she hooked up with went out pre-jury.

That season ended with two people realizing they were so hated and hosed over every one so much that they had to just team up and go to the end together and force the jury to pick the lesser of two evils. And yet for some reason BB fans think the winner is one of the best of all time, which has always kind of confused me.



POV played. Jason is off the block. Cody apparently refused to talk (shocker!) and Paul resisted the urge to bash him (mild shocker) to keep up the illusion of his deal with Jess.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

I wonder how production feels about Cody just giving everyone and everything the silent treatment. It was amusing when he'd do a DR where he brushes some stuff off as not really meaning anything, but I imagine not talking during POV ceremony and the like must be frustrating to them. Or they love it because it just stirs the controversy plot.

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

I thought Paul using veto on Jess was part of the deal. Was it not?

Not that it matters anyway, Jess is totally using the Hex and will spend the next week crowing about how this time she was the one doing the blindsiding

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

ShakeZula posted:

I thought Paul using veto on Jess was part of the deal. Was it not?

Not that it matters anyway, Jess is totally using the Hex and will spend the next week crowing about how this time she was the one doing the blindsiding

If Jason won the POV then he would've taken himself off.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Jess and Cody discussing their plans for next week. Jess still thinks the original house sides are in place (GET THE gently caress OUT OF YOUR ROOM AND FIND A CLUE!) with "Paul's side" vs "Alex's side." She plans to nominate Alex/Raven with the hopes of Alex winning POV and backdooring Paul. Again, because she doesn't know the house dynamics she assumes she can get "Alex's side" to vote out Paul when in reality Raven would probably go home 7-2.

But now i'm kind of rooting for another Jody HOH and another Jody blindside. Because gently caress it, lets just lean in.

ShakeZula posted:

I thought Paul using veto on Jess was part of the deal. Was it not?

Not that it matters anyway, Jess is totally using the Hex and will spend the next week crowing about how this time she was the one doing the blindsiding

It wasn't part of the initial deal. Jess tried to add it after they made the group deal and Paul never committed to it.

Its moot. Jess doesn't really trust Paul and its going to come down to whether or not she wants Cody in the house on Thursday. If he's behaving, being a decent boyfriend, and reassuring (lying) her that he won't explode again she'll use the Hex. Its all on Cody doing his best "normal, decent human being" impersonation for the next 4 days.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Jess just random snapped at Raven because she saw Raven and Jason playing with the POV or something. I dunno. Jessica's acting like a princess and just attacked Raven. Raven says Jason was explaining why the POV is light because its hollowed out or something. Jess is convinced that they were poo poo talking Jody. Raven tries to explain and get a hug and Jessica is just being an rear end in a top hat. Cody randomly trashes Paul and asks Raven if she's voting him out. Its a mess.

Cody tells Jessica she's the "Queen of Confrontation." and Jessica is super proud that she's driving them all crazy or something. Jess is 100% using the Hex because for her its all about maintaining some idea of control. She'll stir up poo poo for days to try and feel in control of people and then get off on screwing them all on Thursday.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Jess started going after people and riled up a hornet's nest and now Josh is back in pots and pans mode.

Jess tells Cody that they're going to try and rile Cody up and make him explode so that she'll not use the Hex so he goes home and doesn't keep ruining his reputation. She's correct.

Cody says he'll just very nicely hit Josh's pans with his own pans.

So... Cody's gonna hit Josh today.

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


It will be really amazing if they manage to blindside Jess for a 3rd time because she doesn't use the hex. Would Cody self evict or try to get revenge...until he loses HOH and self evicts?

Hopefully no one spills the beans this time KEVIN.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

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The whole house is riled up. Jessica was throwing grenades and accusations at people and everyone's pissed off. Matt is trying to calm it down and still keep playing nice but everyone's pissed off and wants to go at Cody hard and make him explode. Matt's kind of clearly pissing Paul off.

Paul's ranting on what a "piece of poo poo" Cody is and bringing up the "trannie" stuff again.

Cody's saying that the Fraternal Order of Marines will go after everyone who is against him.

Josh was doing pots and pans but there were fish and he stopped, so they probably told him to quit it for fear that Cody was going to get violent.

Cody and Jess are talking about being booed and whether things they've done will follow them so they might have gotten a talking to from Production during fish too. Josh and Cody are on opposite sides of the house and that's been BB's strategy all season to separate them and Mark when they get violent.

Matt keeps saying "we had a plan" and they're all telling him that's dead now.

This is going to get ugly.

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


I'd love to see some Marines weigh in on Cody's behavior.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Faustian Bargain posted:

I'd love to see some Marines weigh in on Cody's behavior.

Someone did on Reddit. They claimed he is displaying all the classic PTSD behaviors.

Not sure how gauche it is to link to Reddit or deal with someone making mental diagnosis but here it is anyway:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BigBrother/comments/6qd656/spoilers_some_serious_thoughts_on_understanding/

Max fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Jul 31, 2017

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I don't know poo poo and I don't know what the symptoms of PTSD are or what. But I'll be honest that the whole "he's a soldier"/"he's been to war"/PTSD stuff feels like an excuse to me. If Cody wasn't a vet we'd just be calling him an antisocial rear end in a top hat with an anger problem. He hasn't behaved "irrationally" or "depressed" or anything that makes me concerned about his self. Josh has seemed more emotionally unstable. Hell, Dom, Jess, and Mark have. Cody's just got a self image rooted in "Semper Fi" so he can't cope with the reality that he's been a snake in this game and he lashes out in anger when he does.

But like I said, I don't know poo poo. It just strikes me that Mark, Jess, and Paul don't get passes for similar actions. Other HGs have hit people. BB has had tons of vets who didn't act this way. It feels like kind of a stereotype to me unless some doctor has a proper, first hand diagnosis.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
The issue with that reddit post is that the person who made it pegged Cody as a favorite from the beginning, which means that is very likely to taint their view of him.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

ToastyPotato posted:

The issue with that reddit post is that the person who made it pegged Cody as a favorite from the beginning, which means that is very likely to taint their view of him.

Yeah, again, I don't really throw any weight behind it, but it was what sprang to mind when I saw that quesiton.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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The plan is for Josh to go at Cody for letting Jessica fight his fights for him while he sinks her game. Paul tells him to "bully him like he bullies everyone else." "Be a bigger bully." Paul wants everyone else to back Josh up when Cody and Jess go after him. And he says Mark will be the one who tries to ride the middle or defend him and they should let him stand out and feed his paranoia by stopping to talk when he comes into room.

This is all highly destructive and chaotic and should remind us all that Paul is NOT a mastermind.

Josh: Mom, don't watch this week.

After Paul leaves Matt tells Christmas and Raven that he thinks its "loving stupid" that their plan is now to "get a man who has killed people to crack." Christmas says if he's as disciplined as he should be he won't and Matt says he clearly isn't. Matt and Christmas are getting kind of testy too. Matt's clearly focusing on Christmas because he won't challenge Paul and Christmas is pissed off now. After Matt storms out Christmas rants to Raven about why Matt's lecturing her and no one else. Raven just tries to defuse her by saying "we both kept you" and Christmas clearly doesn't like it and "storms out." As much as a one legged person with a walker can.

Raven tries to convince Matt to fix things with Christmas later so they don't make another enemy. Matt say she doesn't need her in the game and he's not apologizing, but if she wants to apologize she can come to him. Raven trying to get him to just talk. She's saying everyone's tensions are high. Matt saying its not a good look that Christmas was talking about how to break Cody. You know... Christmas. Not Paul. Matt says he's going to give her the benefit of the doubt that its the drugs. Matt says he just doesn't want to see Cody hurt Josh.

Jess: I may have a competition with you. Who gets evicted first?
Cody: I won.

Jess finally tells Cody that she's considering not using the Hex to free him from the house and says he's gone back and forth on whether he wants to be here the last few weeks. Cody says he only loses it when someone goes after her. Jess finally tells him about the deal she made with Paul and the rest of the cool kids to not use the Hex and that its just a "Plan B" if he doesn't want to be here and she'll ask Cody every day and night til Thursday if he wants to be here. Cody says Jess can't trust any deal and she says she did it because he said he wanted to go. He said he only said that because he thought he had lost her.

Josh is outside trying to incite Cody by talking about how the house would be better if Cody had never come back and you can't learn social skills in the house (which is kind of funny because Josh clearly has learned social skills in the house). In response Jess mounts Cody and they make out. Josh says America is tired the "grab assing" and tells Jess to buy Cody a leash. Josh wins the endurance contest and they stop.

Mark's telling Jason how excited he is with the way the house is now and how bad a guy Josh is. Mark's kind of clueless. Jason says Cody is handling this badly too and Jason doesn't think he'd ever be in the situation Cody's in. Mark defends him and says he was in the same situation and Jason says its different.

Paul put vaseline on the coffee scooper and put it back in the coffee tin. Cody found it and tossed the tin. Cody tells Jess that someone tried to poison him. The odd thing is that Cody doesn't realize they had switched out his regular coffee with decaf so he was getting headaches yesterday so he actually did himself a favor and switched to a new can of caffeine to feed his addiction.

Paul, Alex, and Jason debating whether its possible Cody's lying about his military experience. Jason says he could have bought his clothes in any military surplus. Alex thinks he could be some fanboy who never got out of his hometown. Paul asks Jason what Mark said and Jason says he's glad he doesn't have a target on his back. Paul, "Shut the gently caress. That's what he thinks." Alex wants to nominate him and "make that bitch cry."

Everything's calmed down and its back to Jody Cam so I'm out for awhile. It could pop so I could be back.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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House meeting.

I'm tired of these assholes but I'm an addict. But no exclamation marks.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Raven just SNAPPED!

Bloops Crusts
Aug 14, 2016
Holy poo poo, Jes and Cody are sunk. EVERYONE hates them.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I mean, everyone hated them before...

But then they decided to start throwing grenades for some reason and well...

The funny part is that a lot of the BB Feed fanbase has this bizarre obsession with Jody because they've been against Paul (but then left him alone when they had a chance) so they're all complaining that Jody have never done anything wrong, are being unfairly bullied, and like the fact that 10 people are all angry at them for a month of poo poo is somehow none of their fault.

Like, these people are nuts. But this is a month of poo poo exploding at once.

Bloops Crusts
Aug 14, 2016
What grenades was Jes throwing?

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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She was just picking random fights and yelling at people. After the POV Ceremony she snapped at Raven because she thought she was mocking her with Jason and Kevin. Then she was fighting Jason over it. Then she fought with Paul and Josh. Then she got in a screaming match with Alex. Then everyone got all riled up and she and Cody retreated to the hammock to insult them quietly.

Paul and Josh were instigating some of it later on too but Jess was just steaming mad and looking to start poo poo and then gloating that she was manipulating them.

Now she's sitting with Cody calling them dogs and saying she's going to blackball them from LA.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Jessica and Cody are now debating the pros and cons of DORing rather than dealing with the mess they've created for the rest of the summer.

Fat Lowtax
Nov 9, 2008


"I'm willing to pay up to $1200 for a big anime titty"


Wonder how much of this stuff made it to Christmas's self-help books.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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For some reason that reminded me of this.

Fat Lowtax posted:

I mean this makes me way happier than "Christmas Abbott is cool and normal" would

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Paul and Kevin put Vaseline on the bottom of the door knob to Jody's room. Paul wiped his hand on Josh's bed. Josh just found the Vaseline stain and is now yelling at Jody about touching his bed while Paul cooks in the kitchen.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Also everyone is openly insulting Jody.

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Jessica is intending to go into DR and (a) complain about this apparently unprecedented level of abuse and (b) discuss DORing. Cody's going to go with her and if she walks he's walking with her. She's just not doing it right now because she doesn't want to give them the satisfaction of seeing her do it.

Jess is saying her main concern is not being able to do exit interviews to defend herself. She's very concerned about her career and how this will affect it. Which is weird because from what I know about her career its not exactly the kind of thing that will be hurt by trashy reality show stuff.

She's also a lot of talk, so... But Cody's encouraging her to do it and says it makes her stronger.

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