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Data Graham posted:It didn't help that there were people out there who were actually trying to agitate against widescreen/letterboxing and even HDTV in general because it was "cheating the customer" by cutting off parts of the screen. No way. That's gotta be a troll. Poe's law. 
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azurite posted:No way. That's gotta be a troll. He kept it up for a long time, and was awfully dedicated to his craft if so. He would come into Usenet newsgroups for particular movies or shows and post his diatribes about letterboxing and get into long drawn-out arguments with people. It went on for years.
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Data Graham posted:It didn't help that there were people out there who were actually trying to agitate against widescreen/letterboxing and even HDTV in general because it was "cheating the customer" by cutting off parts of the screen. (And I am 100% sure that guy was not trolling, but was probably deeply disturbed in other ways as well)
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Dr. Quarex posted:I was 100% onboard the anti-widescreen train. And do not get me wrong, I understand the other side completely in hindsight...but, like. O.K. Here you are, it is 1995, and you have rear end in a top hat cinephiles coming over to my house and demanding we watch their widescreen laserdiscs on my 19" color television. As if it is not already hard enough to see the picture, now you want to make it even smaller? But of course their dogmatic devotion to the concept was such that they were not even able to acknowledge that some times and places were perhaps inappropriate for what was otherwise clearly the better choice; I mean, now that everyone's monitors are wide instead of tall, GREAT! Why would you argue with it? But at the time...still not sold in hindsight. Maybe you should have just gotten a better TV then 
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Dr. Quarex posted:I was 100% onboard the anti-widescreen train. And do not get me wrong, I understand the other side completely in hindsight...but, like. O.K. Here you are, it is 1995, and you have rear end in a top hat cinephiles coming over to my house and demanding we watch their widescreen laserdiscs on my 19" color television. As if it is not already hard enough to see the picture, now you want to make it even smaller? But of course their dogmatic devotion to the concept was such that they were not even able to acknowledge that some times and places were perhaps inappropriate for what was otherwise clearly the better choice; I mean, now that everyone's monitors are wide instead of tall, GREAT! Why would you argue with it? But at the time...still not sold in hindsight. What I loved though was that he was against HDTV and widescreen TVs because they were capitulating and/or "forcing" the industry to accept letterboxing. Like calling for boycotts against companies that produce widescreen TVs. I could understand his position as being basically what you said right up until that point.
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Mak0rz posted:Maybe you should have just gotten a better TV then That 20" TV cost grandpa a lot when he bought it back in '75.
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Data Graham posted:I still remember seeing the first flat panel plasma big screen TVs on display in Fry's. $15,999 Speaking of expensive new TV sets at Fry's Electronics, I saw this a few years back.  "Say, could I interest you in a 4 year company warranty for this TV? That'll be SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS, PLEASE."
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Gonz posted:Speaking of expensive new TV sets at Fry's Electronics, I saw this a few years back. Someone, somewhere paid this, probably on finance.
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Maybe a bit offtopic, maybe not - but either way, this seems like the sort of thing a few of you might enjoy: (In short, it's about a "why did this need to be on a computer" "game" from the UK 8-bit period, with a surprisingly interesting backstory.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouvi-fwrfIY Computer viking has a new favorite as of 23:05 on Jul 30, 2017 |
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Data Graham posted:"Lettershlocking" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rembrandttoren posted:Incidents
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Non-Widescreen Version Of DVD Received As Hanukkah Gift Rosenstein holds the inadequate gift. BROOKLYN, NY—Self-described film buff Tyler Rosenstein was disappointed to receive a non-letterboxed "full screen" version of the movie The Matrix Reloaded as a Hanukkah gift, the 19-year-old reported Monday. "Great," said Rosenstein, concealing his displeasure from his beaming aunt and uncle, Hannah and Bernie Greenberg, as he gazed at the freshly unwrapped DVD in his hand. "Just what I wanted. The Matrix Reloaded." "With approximately a third of the movie's visual content missing, thanks to 'pan-and-scan,'" he added under his breath. http://www.theonion.com/article/non-widescreen-version-of-dvd-received-as-hanukkah-1038
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With movies that were shot open matte or on Super 35, they're not wrong that widescreen covers up more picture area than full screen. But the wider framing is what was intended by the director and director of photography, and so sometimes you get things like boom mics and dolly tracks in the shot on full screen. Kubrick was an exception though, he'd frame for the wider 1.85:1 aspect ratio, but still protect the 4x3 image from things like boom mics and dolly tracks. please don't start a derail about that helicopter shadow in the shining
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axolotl farmer posted:Non-Widescreen Version Of DVD Received As Hanukkah Gift this guy looks like he was photoshopped into the picture or at the very least his head was
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Carrion Luggage posted:this guy looks like he was photoshopped into the picture or at the very least his head was It's The Onion.
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Cojawfee posted:It's The Onion. To be fair to that guy, how the gently caress are we supposed to identify satire anymore
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Code Jockey posted:To be fair to that guy, how the gently caress are we supposed to identify satire anymore It's The Onion.
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One of my uncles was a tv repairman until I think the late '90s, or whenever CRTs and those projection tvs died out.
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Delivery McGee posted:One of my uncles was a tv repairman until I think the late '90s, or whenever CRTs and those projection tvs died out. It's The Onion.
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Relax. My old man is a TV repairman. He's got the ultimate set of tools - I can fix it! If you get this reference you may be old
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axolotl farmer posted:Non-Widescreen Version Of DVD Received As Hanukkah Gift That's a rough 19.
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evobatman posted:That's a rough 19. It's the Tomato
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we almost got sofrito here!
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axolotl farmer posted:Non-Widescreen Version Of DVD Received As Hanukkah Gift I know this feeling, my mom did this to me for a while until ~2010 because I hadn't gotten a wide screen TV yet. I gave up on attempting to explain it after a while.
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Keith Atherton posted:Relax. My old man is a TV repairman. He's got the ultimate set of tools - I can fix it! Totally awesome!
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i bought phantom menace on widescreen vhs to play on my parents projector, which raised the ambient temp in the room about 35 degrees but man oh man that podrace
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I was around for most of VHS so I'm not coming from the realm of Youtube videos where KIDS REACT TO 90s TECH LOLZ! but I do find myself mystified as to how we tolerated watching movies on VHS from time to time. Obviously it's because it was the only affordable option at the time, but boy does it look rinky dink in hindsight. I somehow watched Lawrence of Arabia for the first time on a 20" CRT, and was fine with it because nobody really knew any better.
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Casimir Radon posted:I was around for most of VHS so I'm not coming from the realm of Youtube videos where KIDS REACT TO 90s TECH LOLZ! but I do find myself mystified as to how we tolerated watching movies on VHS from time to time. Obviously it's because it was the only affordable option at the time, but boy does it look rinky dink in hindsight. I somehow watched Lawrence of Arabia for the first time on a 20" CRT, and was fine with it because nobody really knew any better. Yah, it's kinda weird how primitive things were 20+ years ago. Of course 20 years ago holding the internet in your pocket was Star Trek poo poo
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Casimir Radon posted:I was around for most of VHS so I'm not coming from the realm of Youtube videos where KIDS REACT TO 90s TECH LOLZ! but I do find myself mystified as to how we tolerated watching movies on VHS from time to time. Obviously it's because it was the only affordable option at the time, but boy does it look rinky dink in hindsight. I somehow watched Lawrence of Arabia for the first time on a 20" CRT, and was fine with it because nobody really knew any better. Honestly, I still watch old horrors on VHS on a CRT just for the nostalgia. VHS just had this entire aesthetic that makes it timeless for me.
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Bad movies in High quality is the poo poo.
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Light Gun Man posted:Bad movies in High quality is the poo poo. Yeah, I think the nostalgia for VHS is definitely lost on me. I think film is great, and DVD is OK, but VHS is just so bad anymore. I mean I grew up watching Beetlejuice on VHS, and I got the Blu-ray recently, and drat if there wasn't a shitload of detail lost in that magnetic tape and 480p.
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Skoll posted:Honestly, I still watch old horrors on VHS on a CRT just for the nostalgia. VHS just had this entire aesthetic that makes it timeless for me. On the other hand just about all the low budget horror movies that I love have made it to Blu-Ray now. Once they got Highway to Hell I knew that just about anything vaguely worth it would eventually make its wau there.
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Casimir Radon posted:I was around for most of VHS so I'm not coming from the realm of Youtube videos where KIDS REACT TO 90s TECH LOLZ! but I do find myself mystified as to how we tolerated watching movies on VHS from time to time. Obviously it's because it was the only affordable option at the time, but boy does it look rinky dink in hindsight. I somehow watched Lawrence of Arabia for the first time on a 20" CRT, and was fine with it because nobody really knew any better. Because we didn't realize how bad it was. Unless you went to the movie theater all the time, people just didn't think "this is total garbage, I can't watch this." TVs were smaller, so it wasn't as obvious that VHS was poo poo. And TV shows themselves were mastered on VHS so they came through the air or cable looking like poo poo. We didn't have HD to compare it to. Unless you had movies on film and a projector, it was easier to accept. It's like how a video game would come out and everyone freaks out because the graphics are so realistic and it looks like real life. Then you go back to it years later and it's like 15 polygons on screen at a time.
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Cojawfee posted:Then you go back to it years later and it's like 15 polygons on screen at a time. All the "LOL HOW DID U WQATCH THSI" people criticizing VHS are going to suddenly recognize their own mortality when their children ask how they could stand to watch 4K movies back in the day. "Hahaha! You can't even walk behind the characters!"
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Casimir Radon posted:I was around for most of VHS so I'm not coming from the realm of Youtube videos where KIDS REACT TO 90s TECH LOLZ! but I do find myself mystified as to how we tolerated watching movies on VHS from time to time. Suddenly a large cassette is pretty appealing, ya know. Also, the revolution of VHS wasnt due it its quality, it was in making film a less ephemeral experience. Oh, missed the latest Disney flick? You can watch it in your hovel. Like it? You can own it and rewatch it tons of times. FilthyImp has a new favorite as of 21:26 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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I recorded everything in EP because I had like two tapes that were mine, so the quality of my recorded movies was extra lovely.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Supposedly, and this is likely audiophile nonsense, the 5.1 tracks on laserdiscs sound better than the later DVD and blu-ray releases. I've never heard a 5.1 track off of a laserdisc, but their 2.0 stereo tracks in PCM sounded amazing compared to the Dolby Digital 2.0 tracks on DVD.
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roffels posted:I've never heard a 5.1 track off of a laserdisc, but their 2.0 stereo tracks in PCM sounded amazing compared to the Dolby Digital 2.0 tracks on DVD. There were for sure 5.1 dts sound tracks in laserdisc but they came during when the tech had the most popularity. https://www.lddb.com/list.php?format=ld&list=dts&sort=date,asc
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And the generation after that will be like "how could these savages deal with only being able to walk behind the characters? you can't even taste their emotions, what a bunch of bullshit"
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FilthyImp posted:Because before that (or Betamax), the ability to watch something required setting up a reel-to-reel projector? Hell, i dont even know if anything commercial was available on those tiny home projector setups. You had cut-down "digest" version of major movies available for Super 8 projectors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n86-uNmmLyY
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