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I can see that: good Okonomiaki is delicious, and bad usually isn't a disaster. Monja seems like it could go wrong very easily, since it seems like the texture and progression of cooking is pretty delicate. Most japanese food is pretty good, I think, but that might be bias from only eating at good restaurants.
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this Is a reference.  To everyone's favorite brick wall boss from When They Were Young(er) And Bad At SMT Games.  To my knowledge, Force was replaced by Wind after Nocturne, thus, you are required to get Magaru instead of Mazan.
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Garu vs Zan is weird. Most games in the series, like main titles, Devil Survivor and even Tokyo Mirage Sessions, use Zan, but Persona's stuck to Garu for some reason. There's no meaningful difference either.
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Count Bleck posted:I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this Old school  at its finest.
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ChaosArgate posted:Garu vs Zan is weird. Most games in the series, like main titles, Devil Survivor and even Tokyo Mirage Sessions, use Zan, but Persona's stuck to Garu for some reason. There's no meaningful difference either. I seem to remember Zan breaking petrified characters in Devil Survivor, at least, because since it's Force damage of course it applies enough force, if you will, to break stone. I don't see Garu doing that. But other than that... yeah, there's basically no difference as far as I know. Maybe someone else will have another difference between the two.
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In Persona 1, elements were a little weird - Zan was considered to be Blast element and was classified as one of the Force elements, which were basically Mad Science Stuff like Gravity, Blast, Nuclear, and Electricity. Basically it was a shockwave of force, where Garu was directed winds. Then in Persona 2 they decided to make it Almighty for some reason before dropping it entirely for Persona 3 onwards.
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See this is why Persona 3 and onward should have stuck to Magna/Earth as the fourth element.
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I'm personally thankful that the persona games dropped multiple physical attacking types after 3. ALSO, I -think- that you can miss doing Ryuji's Rank 7 event, because it happens on specific days. So, if you're an idiot and meander around it enough or do his Confidant late enough in the game (which you'd have to be trying to do on purpose) you can miss out on actually maxing his Confidant. Think at least one other confidant can be lost this way, but I'm not sure on the specifics.
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Kemix posted:Think at least one other confidant can be lost this way, but I'm not sure on the specifics.
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Haifisch posted:There is one other, and it happens for reasons that make total sense if you stop to think about it for a minute. I believe both Sun and Temperance get plot-locked after a certain date.
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Arcsech posted:I believe both Sun and Temperance get plot-locked after a certain date. This is correct.
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Worldwalker_Pure posted:In Persona 1, elements were a little weird - Zan was considered to be Blast element and was classified as one of the Force elements, which were basically Mad Science Stuff like Gravity, Blast, Nuclear, and Electricity. Basically it was a shockwave of force, where Garu was directed winds. I've beaten SMT IV and played Devil Survivor, and Zan replaces Garu in both of those games. But in SMT IV, at least, it still looks like a wind spell. 
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I actually used to work in Tsukishima, and my best friend and coworker lived above a Monja place. There's about 3 blocks filled with almost nothing but Monja restaurants. I was just back in Japan for a family trip, and I met this dude and some friends for Monja along with my family. Their universal verdict was "eh, pretty bad", but I'll be honest, I think it was because we weren't drinking enough. Monja is very much drunk food, which is odd when you consider the possibility of drunken accidents causing severe burns. I was so pumped when this event triggered and I found out I could invite members of the Phantom Thieves to Tsukishima with me. Incidentally, I also have a bunch of pictures from Shibuya showing how Persona 5 mirrors parts of the station almost perfectly. Arist, would you approve of me posting them in the thread?
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I had okonomiyaki in Hiroshima but I really disliked it. I'm not sure if it was the bonito flakes (I'm really not a fan of those) or the worcestershire-style sauce they put on it but it felt like putting chunks of seawater in my mouth. Maybe I just had a single bad experience though. Shredded cabbage and cheese and noodles and the like should be straight up my alley.
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GeneX posted:I can see that: good Okonomiaki is delicious, and bad usually isn't a disaster. Monja seems like it could go wrong very easily, since it seems like the texture and progression of cooking is pretty delicate. I've been meaning to try okonomiyaki for a while, but always wind up ordering different stuff whenever I'm at a restaurant that serves it. Like I was at a kinda famous cheap-rear end izakaya on St. Mark's Place over by NYU in Manhattan (it's called Kenka, and was parodied in the Love Live movie as the restaurant Maki takes Muse to when they're in New York and Hanayo is craving rice) on Saturday night, but decided to get takoyaki and ramen and grilled salmon there instead. I've seen people at other tables get it, and it looked and smelled so good, so maybe next time. There's a yakitori place a couple stores down from there that I've been meaning to try later this week, and I might get okonomiyaki there if they have it. EDIT: Oh, and in case you missed it, Atlus announced a couple days ago that P5 will be getting an anime by A-1 Pictures to air in 2018. ANN story here. Looks like Joker will finally get an official name now. GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Rogue 7 posted:Incidentally, I also have a bunch of pictures from Shibuya showing how Persona 5 mirrors parts of the station almost perfectly. Arist, would you approve of me posting them in the thread? Go ahead.
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Remember all those jokes about Persona 5: Dancing All Afternoon (because Morgana won't let you go out at night)? Well, Atlus just announced Persona 5: Dancing Star Night, alongside Persona 3: Dancing Moon Night earlier today. The milking of Persona 5 has begun. Sasuga Atlus.
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GhostStalker posted:Remember all those jokes about Persona 5: Dancing All Afternoon (because Morgana won't let you go out at night)? Well, Atlus just announced Persona 5: Dancing Star Night, alongside Persona 3: Dancing Moon Night earlier today. The milking of Persona 5 has begun. Sasuga Atlus. Not just that, they also released a teaser for Persona Q 2. They can milk away all they want, I'll take all the Persona 5 poo poo they're gonna give me.
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GhostStalker posted:Remember all those jokes about Persona 5: Dancing All Afternoon (because Morgana won't let you go out at night)? Well, Atlus just announced Persona 5: Dancing Star Night, alongside Persona 3: Dancing Moon Night earlier today. The milking of Persona 5 has begun. Sasuga Atlus. The thing that makes me angry about this announcement is they started the P3 Dancing trailer with Burn My Dread and got me incredibly hyped. Then I realized it's a dancing game. Then I saw the character models and am upset they're for a dancing game.
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give me another persona game with a female mc please and thank you incidentally, thanks for lping this game for us ps4-less scrubs
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AriadneThread posted:give me another persona game with a female mc please and thank you It's called Persona 4 Arena (Ultimax) and her name is Labrys.
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AriadneThread posted:incidentally, thanks for lping this game for us ps4-less scrubs It's on PS3 too, if you've got one of those. It's how I lucked into being able to play it.
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Rainuwastaken posted:It's on PS3 too, if you've got one of those. It's how I lucked into being able to play it. i have a very dusty ps2
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Part 38: 5/26-5/27: Comical New Heights Of Villainy Music: Suspicion   Madarame’s going to be a changed man. There won’t be any way to revert it though. Are you sure you’re OK with that? I have thought it over carefully, and I cannot think of a future in which he does not pay his dues. He has preyed not only on the art world, but on countless talents… so I humbly request your help. I apologize for making you do this... Not at all. We just didn’t want to impose if you weren’t feeling up to it, Yusuke. But if you’re already determined to do it, then there’s nothing more for us to say. If I recall, our next step is sending a “calling card,” correct? What a suave maneuver. It’s not about acting cool. The calling card is a way to trigger a change in his cognition. A change in cognition… That reminds me, you went through some trouble regarding that before…I thought we weren’t talking about that. Ah, you must be talking about when we forced open that security gate in the courtyard. The Palace is a cognitive world, so changing its ruler’s cognition changes the topography! ...I think! Very nicely put, Lady Ann! You’re absolutely correct. This will be a vital tactic from here forward. Actually, may I ask a truly basic question? You continue to mention cognition quite readily… But why does this world formed from materialized cognitions even exist to begin with? Don’t tell me… Has it always existed, while we go about our daily lives completely oblivious? Honestly, I’m not sure. At the very least, I know it existed before the Kamoshida incident… but that’s all. I see… Crap, he totally caught me off guard with that… It’s kinda weird thinkin’ there might be whole worlds we just don’t know a drat thing about… ...Did the thought ever cross your mind, Maaku? Other worlds? You watch too much television, Ryuji. Don’t be so anxious. You don’t even know everything about the city you live in, after all. All that’s important is that we know how to make use of that world and how to traverse it.Music: Tokyo Emergency  So, with that philosophical quandary neatly packed away, time to discuss the order of the day: the calling card.  He is famous, after all… He has often received slanderous letters till now, as well. Wait. Are you going to write it again, Ryuji? That last one was questionable at best. You should do it then, Yusuke! Make it really artistic and stuff! No. It’ll end with him figuring it out. He knows my drawing and writing styles all too well. Oh, then I’ll think it up, and you make it cooler!The final result of Ryuji’s directive can be seen here:  This is absolutely the worst, most terrible, awful joke I will ever make in the entirety of my blighted existence, and you know what? I’m not loving sorry. Designing a calling card, hm… Interesting. It shall become proof that the Phantom Thieves do exist. It’s decided then! You guys better come fully prepared!Music: Beneath the Mask   Looks the same to me. Maybe it’s just for the group and doesn’t show up in here… Well, you should take a look later. It’s that Phantom Thieves logo I had Yusuke draw for us. The calling card turned out great ‘cause of him too. Anyways, this is the first job for the Phantom Thieves. We really can’t screw this up, k? I know. And make sure Yusuke gets a lot of rest today, OK?I’m not sure how he wants us to make sure of that, but whatever.  See you tomorrow! This is the new logo Ryuji mentioned, for the record.   Nothing goes your way in life. You’ll end up failing if you tense up like that.I missed it last time, but Sojiro has this unique bit of dialogue on the night you send the calling card. Thanks for the advice, Fake Dad.   Confessions of crime are the… A: “queen” of evidence/B: “jewel” of evidence/Which one is right? You be the judge! I don’t feel like either I’ve heard either of these, but I’ll pick the one that sounds more natural.  The correct answer is A, “queen.” Yes, that’s a very famous expression in the field of law. Confessions are very powerful evidence—people used to even resort to torture to get them.Okay, we get it, Mr. Know-it-all.  That’s a high school prodigy for you. Today, forcing a confession is forbidden under law, and... I’m surprised you knew that. Did you just guess? Torture, though… That’s pretty brutal.Maaku gains Knowledge +1.  We make three Lockpicks (thanks to our Proficiency now being Rank 2) and gain Proficiency +2, which I admittedly tried to savescum for a better result and gave up on.    Please excuse me for a moment.  A letter? It’s… uh...Music: Disquiet  You are an artist who uses his authority to shamelessly steal the ideas of his pupils. We have decided to make you confess all your crimes with your own mouth. We will take your distorted desires without fail. From, #Millennials…There we have it, his sin is vanity. Not greed or envy, vanity. Though, this game likes to play a little fast and loose with the sins. Madarame crumples up the letter.  We don’t know! The same letter has been posted everywhere… What about the security cameras!? There were no signs of the culprit… All we saw was a cat in the recordings… Remove these at once! Of course! Um… ...What now!? It’s about this affecting the exhibit… We believe it’s just a prank, but what of the mass media? Are you insinuating that this slander is true…? Of course not!    Well, it means nothing… They’ll only be able to do as they please until this exhibit is over...  Hold on, we were waiting at the exhibition? This seems like a bad idea. Yup! It was perfect! The composition was way cooler too! The Treasure should appear right about now. You better enjoy the air of freedom while you still can, old man. Anyways, d’you guys check online? People are already talkin’ about that callin’ card. We’ll show ‘em… We’re gonna surprise ‘em all! I’m sure you know, but we only get one shot to pull this off! We’ll be counting on you too. You have no reservations about this either, right, Yusuke? Of course not. ...We’ll do this.  Music: Life Will Change (Instrumental Version)    I mean, we did basically declare war on him by sendin’ that card. But there’s nothing to fear. We’ve secured a route, and we’re ready to go. We’ll take the Treasure in style!  There will be no turning back once we begin the operation. And if worst comes to worst, we might have to fight… That’s right. Are you ready, Joker? OK! Everyone to your positions! There’s an enemy inside, just as expected... I mean, we’ve done a ton in here. It ain’t surprisin’. Anyway, I’m gonna try and draw it out, so I’ll leave the switch to you guys. Will you be OK…? What if it catches up to you…? Heh, don’t underestimate an ex-runner. I’m definitely gonna shake it off…!  Panther emerges from behind a plant.   Yeah, it’s perfect! You seem to be enjoying this. Only the best can appreciate these critical moments. Plus, this feels like we’re really phantom thieves! We are really phantom thieves, though. We’ll be counting on you, Mona. And Panther as well. Good luck, everyone! Let’s do this…!Panther turns out the lights.  Joker pulls the lever.     Wait, where’s Mona?  That was amazin’, Mona! Ngh… How dare those vermin… But now we’ll corner them like the rats they are! Lock all the doors at once! They have nowhere to run! We can look into that later. For now, we must escape. Yeah, it’s time to go! Fun detail here: for the brief time between now and the end of the Palace Mona has the painting tied to his head.  Now is no time to be lost in thought. We must go! Whoa, this poo poo’s real high up... But at least we’re outside! Is there a way down out here!?  We don’t have time to lose. Just go through it! Now’s our chance! For real!? But… I guess there’s no other way! I knew it! All that security would’ve been meaningless if it just led back inside! It seems we managed to escape their siege. Mrrrr… Meowww... Dude… Why’s Mona gettin’ excited now of all times…? I just can’t take it any more! Let’s take a look at this Treasure…!  Hrm!?Music: Tension  THIS is the Treasure!? Get back!The characters all leap eight feet backwards.   Is this what you’re looking for?Wait, you… brought it with you? Why? What nonsense that you used a mousetrap on me!A+ localization. So you had a fake prepped, huh!? Counterfeits are accepted in the world of Japanese art. What made you change like this!? Is it because you became famous!? Can’t you understand how much it pains me to inquire about the crimes of my foster father!? ...Now that I think back, the only reason why I took you in was due to my ties with your mother. That woman never lost her passion for painting even after her husband died. Her skills and talents were quite astonishing… That’s why I decided to look after her. How low can you sink…? Genuine…? That’s… the real “Sayuri”…? This can’t be…! Huh!? Indeed it is. This was painted by your mother. It’s a portrait of herself. A woman who knew her death was coming painted her last wishes, for the son she would leave behind. That is the truth behind the mystery of “Sayuri”’s expression! You stole something THAT personal…!? I knew at first glance. I knew it’d be a huge success, if I added a touch to the painting and announced it under my name! But the baby in the picture… Why did you paint over it…? ...It was all to stage it. If the babe is erased, the reason for the woman’s expression will become a mystery…! This just makes it more hilarious that people thought it was so great in the first place. “Yeah, there’s this big ugly fog over a third of the painting, but I can’t tell why she’s smiling. It’s a masterpiece!” I always felt something was off about all this… Now I know what it is. If you really treasured that painting, you wouldn’t even think about replicating it for profit! You don’t love art at all! Though you have a real Treasure, your true skills are nothing more than those scribbles on that fake! It makes me laugh, rear end in a top hat! So you’ll defy me no matter what…Well then, since you’re my work of art, Yusuke, I’m going to reap you for the sake of my future. ...Along with those insolent friends of yours there. I can’t believe you’re treating both mother and son like they’re objects… You’re inhuman! I’ve heard that you destroy your “art” once they outlive their usefulness… ...Did that include my mother as well?Music: Blood of Villain  She just so happened to have a seizure in front of me. That’s when a thought crossed my mind… If I don’t call for help and leave her be, I could obtain her painting without any strings attached.This got dark.  No… You let her die!? She was physically weak. No one would doubt if she just dropped dead because of a seizure. Above all, Yusuke, didn’t you think it was odd—that I discovered your talent when you were only three? The reason why I kept you around was to keep you from realizing the truth behind “Sayuri.”I’m not quite sure I understand this. He kept Yusuke around… so he wouldn’t recognize his mother as Sayuri… by exposing him to it constantly? I guess it almost makes a twisted kind of sense if you squint real hard.  The artistic talents you inherited from your mother were a delightful miscalculation, though. If I’m to steal ideas, it’s much easier robbing the future of brats who won’t talk back than adults. It’s thanks to you that I came up with the idea. You have my gratitude. Yusuke…? Every reason for me to forgive you has disappeared without a trace at this very moment! You aren’t some rotten artist… You’re a despicable fiend who wears the skin of an artist! All you good-for-nothings…! Barging into my museum and doing whatever the hell you want… Those who have the connections make the rules; those who don’t, follow them. Not to mention, the value of art is all subjective! I make the rules in the art scene! I am the supreme being! I am the god of the art world! Music: Blooming Villain  Madarame laughs...  and laughs...  and laughs.   
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Oh poo poo, the faith in us is finally starting to rise! Arist posted:The final result of Ryuji’s directive can be seen here: C'mon man, just be yourself but less ashamed of it all the time. You're already barely making decisions as a human in the game as is.
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That Cooler joke hurt. A lot. The only way to describe how much pain I'm suffering right now is to tell you to think about your avatar, and what comes directly after that shot.
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Arist posted:Eh, I promised myself I'd do that less It's in the refrigerator, don't worry.
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Trivia time: The face on the decoy treasure is made up of four different Hiragana characters, He, No, Mo, and Ji (へ,の,も,じ). Fittingly, it's known as the Henohenomoheji face and it's often drawn by school children, used as the face of scarecrows and I think it might be kind of a general troll face? I'll try to approximate it, but no guarantees, what with forums formatting and all. I'm also not going to be able to draw the Ji character because the long stroke is used as the face's outline and the two short strokes are cheek marks, which I can't really do via text. へ へ のの も へ
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AriadneThread posted:i have a very dusty ps2 Ditto, so thanks as well for this LP. Count Bleck posted:The thing that makes me angry about this announcement is they started the P3 Dancing trailer with Burn My Dread and got me incredibly hyped. Worst part of the hype is that in said trailer, the first words spoken are Minato saying the equivalent of "Kept you waiting, huh?" in moon. drat right you did, door-kun. GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Aug 3, 2017 |
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I'll admit, I didn't expect vanity/vainglory to be the sin of the day. As I recall, vainglory and pride were combined, as were despair and South, while envy was added later. Wonder if that means we're straight up skipping envy, then. I did think pride would have fit well, but assumed it was going to be saved for totally-not-a-politician at the end.
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So did the game forget about the whole "running an artist factory farm and kicking them out with no life skills" thing? It kinda feels like his great crime is supposed to be extreme plagiarism related to Yusuke rather than ruining multiple lives, which is a bit of a letdown from Kamoshida's sexual and physical harassment of the volleyball team (with attempted coercion of Ann into sex on the side.) Like, okay, he's a fraud, but the art factory farm seems like a much worse moral failure than hijacking Yusuke's childhood and letting his mom die. I'm asking seriously, by the way, not sarcastically commenting. Is this a cultural differences thing, bad localization, or what? Jen X fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Aug 3, 2017 |
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This guy encompasses so many sins that I guess they just randomly chose one and went with it. Though, I would have expected Pride to be one of the last ones. Weird. Cooler calling card was pretty amusing. 
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He used his students to prop up his own image and ego and kicked them out and stonewalled them in the art world after he was done with them. I think the game was focusing more on the motives rather than the actions.
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The cooling card hurt my soul, but in the good way that I didn't know I needed.
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Yeah, it makes more sense as "vanity" when you consider the fake Treasure--he never had real talent and was using the abilities of others to bolster his own reputation. The museum is a monument to himself first and foremost, not his skills. It also kind of fits "envy" but other than some of the incidental dialogue in the painting maze we don't get a great look at that aspect.
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