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DrVenkman posted:Lol at the idea that Jason Segel fell off the radar was because he badmouthed HIMYM. I think at this point it's only NPH who hasn't. By cultural-phenomenon-sitcom legacy standards Segel has been doing really loving good actually.
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IRQ posted:But without football so maybe I'll watch it. One of the main characters is a football coach
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MiddleOne posted:By cultural-phenomenon-sitcom legacy standards Segel has been doing really loving good actually. Well, he's not exactly Woody Harrelson.
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Gay Horney posted:The first episode of the Ozarks on Netflix is really good. Ozark. We just say Ozark.
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less laughter posted:Well, he's not exactly Woody Harrelson. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0265668/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm 
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Jul 31, 2017 21:58
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Snak posted:I'm 6 eps in. It's really good. Somehow critics really hated it. Personally I can't remember anything better that was actually made by Netflix, certainly not any of the Marvel shows.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:00
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Wheat Loaf posted:Space Jam may not be a particularly good movie but I don't think Back In Action is a great deal better. Both are bad, Back in Action is less bad only because it has actual actors in it. I wouldn't watch either again.
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Eezee posted:Somehow critics really hated it. Not really, two thirds of all reviews on both Metacritic and RT are positive.
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Well this sounds loving terrible:quote:“Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” writer/director Nicholas Meyer is rumored to be moving forward on a limited series that would focus on the life of that film’s villain Khan Noonien Singh, played by the late Ricardo Montalbahn reprising his role from the original 1960s series.
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GreenNight posted:Well this sounds loving terrible: I dunno, Nick Meyer has an insanely loving good track record with Trek. It might be dope.
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Rhyno posted:She's also loving hilarious. LoLing at bad actress. See: Ted Mosby in the first few seasons before his character became deplorable
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less laughter posted:Not really, two thirds of all reviews on both Metacritic and RT are positive. Patriot and Ozark are both sitting at 68% which just baffles me. Ozark I can understand maybe a bit better but both shows were fantastic.
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Jul 31, 2017 23:43
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Just ignore the riff raff reviews https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/patriot/s01/reviews/?type=top_critics
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Patriot's Cool Rick was one of the best parts of the new Spiderman
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I've always thought this. Natalie did her best acting in The Professional, and had been more wooden and disengaged ever since. Meanwhile, I find Kat gorgeous and sexy as hell, with great comic timing, and she's game for anything. It's a shame her show is offensively, unwatchably bad. Was offensively, unwatchably bad. Now that it's finally over I have some faint hope she'll find something better. Same goes for most of the cast, really- Beth Behrs, Garrett Morris, and Jennifer Coolidge did not deserve that.
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Natalie Portman's best acting is definitely in Closer. Jesus that whole cast nails it so hard it's probably the hardest movie in the world for me to watch (it hits way too close to home, eerily so)
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precision posted:Natalie Portman's best acting is definitely in Closer. Jesus that whole cast nails it so hard it's probably the hardest movie in the world for me to watch (it hits way too close to home, eerily so) Closer is an amazing movie and even more amazing play. Portman was great in it, though imho she was nowhere near as good as Julia Roberts, Jude Law or mothafuckin' Clive Owen. So loving good. But yeah, she really holds her own in Closer and I highly recommend it to anyone who loves plays about hosed up people's hosed up romances, how people change, but more importantly how terrible people are at letting poo poo go. gently caress, I love Closer.
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IRQ posted:So unbeknownst to me, the oft-maligned Top Gear USA, which I thought had really found its own identity after a shaky start, was canceled last year, and the BBC is taking another stab at an american Top Gear spinoff and it starts tonight. Kind of bummed to hear the history channel version got killed off, but I'll give the new one a shot I guess. Thanks for the reminder, watching it on demand now. [Edit: It's certainly closer in spirit and style to the UK version than the previous version. I just recently watched an episode of Top Gear USA where they map the Rubicon and... ugh. The first segment of the new show (driving up to the Mexico/US border in buggys) isn't very strong (too many host reactions, not enough of the "driving porn" shots I watch TG for), but the rest of the episode could be dropped into the UK version and it'd feel right at home. At the end of the day, it's hard to watch any version of Top Gear without Clarkson/May/Hammond without wishing they were hosting instead, but the Top Gear America cast isn't bad, and I can see them growing on me.] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Amazon is going in a different direction with their Civil War alt history.quote:Another alternate history drama series, which has been in the works at Amazon for over a year, also paints a reality where southern states have left the Union but takes a very different approach. Titled Black America, the drama hails from top feature producer Will Packer (Ride Along, Think Like A Man franchises, Straight Outta Compton) and Peabody-winning The Boondocks creator and Black Jesus co-creator Aaron McGruder. It envisions an alternate history where newly freed African Americans have secured the Southern states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama post-Reconstruction as reparations for slavery, and with that land, the freedom to shape their own destiny. The sovereign nation they formed, New Colonia, has had a tumultuous and sometimes violent relationship with its looming “Big Neighbor,” both ally and foe, the United States. The past 150 years have been witness to military incursions, assassinations, regime change, coups, etc. Today, after two decades of peace with the U.S. and unprecedented growth, an ascendant New Colonia joins the ranks of major industrialized nations on the world stage as America slides into rapid decline. Inexorably tied together, the fate of two nations, indivisible, hangs in the balance.
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lelandjs posted:Looking forward to the hot takes on that show. My hot take is I'd actually watch that one. But being an Amazon show the time between us hearing about it and it coming out we won't see it until 2023.
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Man himym just becomes a mess during the whole Kevin Nora part with Robin and Barney wanting to get back together and then everyone breaks up and Ted immediately goes for the I Love You but it's fine because Barney's dating that stripper
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Calaveron posted:Man himym just becomes a mess during the whole Kevin Nora part with Robin and Barney wanting to get back together and then everyone breaks up and Ted immediately goes for the I Love You but it's fine because Barney's dating that stripper And then when Barney's dating the stripper, Ted pulls a Stella and convinces Victoria to leave her fiancé at the altar. Christ, the last half of that show was just filled with completely wretched assholes.
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The Amazon one sounds more interesting, because it's a concept that hasn't really been done before. What's the point of doing alternate history if you're just going to go with the same two things that always get done? (i.e. the Nazis winning and the Confederates winning) Why are there no "Napoleon wins the Battle of Waterloo" ones? That might be interesting.
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Just do this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwar_series I want to see Hitler and Stalin gently caress up some aliens.
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Wheat Loaf posted:The Amazon one sounds more interesting, because it's a concept that hasn't really been done before. I think because those two wars have the most clearly identifiable bad guys, and "what if the bad guys win" is a compelling premise. Also, twitter is applauding the utter wokeness of the premise but I think they are forgetting that Boondocks wasn't exactly perfectly non-problematic. I can't remember exactly, but didn't he spark a lot of controversy from time to time?
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Boondocks has the alternate history episode where MLK was actually just in a coma since he was shot, and when he sees what African American culture has become he calls them a bunch of n-words. It's actually pretty great episode, but obviously really going for some shock factor there and definitely contraversial.
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Man but do they love the imagery of Robin's odd red room in Ted's apartment completely empty, sad little blue horn leaning in the corner
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Wheat Loaf posted:The Amazon one sounds more interesting, because it's a concept that hasn't really been done before. What if Einstein built a time machine and used it to kill young Hitler, but then WWII just got started by Stalin instead?
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zoux posted:Also, twitter is applauding the utter wokeness of the premise but I think they are forgetting that Boondocks wasn't exactly perfectly non-problematic. I can't remember exactly, but didn't he spark a lot of controversy from time to time? Isn't he a 9/11 truther? I remember hearing that.
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Snak posted:Boondocks has the alternate history episode where MLK was actually just in a coma since he was shot, and when he sees what African American culture has become he calls them a bunch of n-words. Aaron McGruder has a lot of important things to say about race and culture, but he's coming from a relative place of privilege compared to he people he complains about in the Boondocks (and specifically that episode). I don't look down on white trailer trash and mock them for making poor financial decisions, I do what I can to help them (which admittedly isn't much, but I voted for Bernie for a reason). [Edit: Holy poo poo I should have thought this post through before submitting it, never-loving-mind] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Isn't he a 9/11 truther? I remember hearing that. If he is it never came up in the show. So I kind of doubt it seeing as he had his W stand in from the very beginning of the show.
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Calaveron posted:Lilly and Marshall get three homes, goddamn Well, he did take the evil corporate lawyer job.
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muscles like this! posted:If he is it never came up in the show. So I kind of doubt it seeing as he had his W stand in from the very beginning of the show. The only thing I could find about it is he called Condoleeza Rice a murderer to her face before Iraq because he thought she was in on it and also this unsourced quote: "Outside of the world of whackos and conspiracy theorists and all of that, very few people in the mainstream have been willing to say what I'm about to say, which is, I really and truthfully believe that George W. Bush is somehow involved, either directly or indirectly, in the attacks on New York City on September 11." Not terribly strong scholarship, I know
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Talking about misunderstanding of socioeconomic differences/privilege, has anyone done a thinkpeice on how great My Name Is Earl is at explaining what life is like for poor people and why they stay poor? I don't think there's another show that does that better outside of, well, The Wire, but The Wire is so much better at EVERYTHING so it doesn't really count.
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zoux posted:I think because those two wars have the most clearly identifiable bad guys, and "what if the bad guys win" is a compelling premise. I can't remember exactly, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people felt that way about the MLK episode. But that's the thing: aiming to not be "problematic" can be a good thing, especially if it leads you to do your research, talk to people who aren't you, get their feelings, etcetera. But with certain subjects, no matter who you are, you can't avoid it. The only way you can really advance those conversations is through trial and error. That's why when I raise an objection to art on PC grounds, I try to remain civil about it, because there's always the possibility that fans of the work or even the artist just don't know any better. And they'll be more open to learning if you don't, you know, imply that you're writing them off as loving assholes. That said, "civil" is kind of a dirty word if you're a member of an aggrieved party, since it's often code for "tell me quietly so it's easier for me to ignore you, <racial/sexual expletive of choice>." And there's always the matter of it being increasingly hard to be polite when you've been talking about the same drat thing for x amount of years and nobody seems to be listening. So I try not to hold anger against aggrieved parties. (People with no cultural dog in the fight, though? gently caress 'em.) Anyway, point is, it doesn't matter much to me if MacGruder's problematic or not, because I've come to realize that being the most woke is a sucker's game. There are always complications, but if you treat people right, recognize and reject those who act maliciously, and seem to be coming from an overall good place, that's usually enough for me. I think that's the case for MacGruder, and I think that's also the case for Benioff and Weiss. The key difference between them is that I think MacGruder's project is way, way, WAY more interesting.
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lelandjs posted:The first time I saw it I loved it, but after watching it again years later, when I was better educated about intraracial views, it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. Boondocks, in general, is edgy that way. It's angry and judgemental. Sometimes that's good for complacent or disillusioned people to hear, but of course it's also just kind of unproductive and uncouth. I think it gets a pass because it's also a comedy. It if was somehow 100% serious all the time, it would be bad. You're probably right about that episode, I haven't seen it in years. But, in general, what I think is a saving grace about Boondocks is that it's critical of Huey. Despite his often seeming to be the ideological mouthpiece of the show, the show also calls out his holier than thou attitude and simplification of complex issues. I always felt like the show was more about "this is where all these people are coming from" and less "this guy is right and all these other people are completely wrong". That it's less that "MLK is right in 'Return of the King'", and more "MLK would be upset with by his legacy". And I feel like that's a defensible claim. Being upset about the reality of things and acting out emotionally and pointing figures is a big theme in the show, it's rarely portrayed as the correct action.
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