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JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax

BattleMaster posted:

I feel like that's an entirely avoidable situation even if you're green or gullible

if you're walking down the sidewalk on the vegas strip, every block you will encounter a click-click-click hooker card person. they will try to push the card in your hand, and they're making eye contact, and they're making a noise. only people from big cities know how to properly ignore this behavior. for folks from the polite parts of america, having to say "no thanks" every 30 seconds while you're just trying to gawk at casinos gets pretty irritating

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Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

Proteus Jones posted:

But those are the wrong kind of christian. Our kind will get raptured, not those other, wrong ones.

maybe stop while you're ahead only slightly behind

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

JewKiller 3000 posted:

if you're walking down the sidewalk on the vegas strip, every block you will encounter a click-click-click hooker card person. they will try to push the card in your hand, and they're making eye contact, and they're making a noise. only people from big cities know how to properly ignore this behavior. for folks from the polite parts of america, having to say "no thanks" every 30 seconds while you're just trying to gawk at casinos gets pretty irritating

Seriously, the did that poo poo to my wife and I, even going so far as to grab my arm and shove a card in my hand. Like, we're two women, what interest do we have in hiring victims of human trafficking. These guys will literally assault you to get you to take a card.

Arcsech
Aug 5, 2008

BattleMaster posted:

I feel like that's an entirely avoidable situation even if you're green or gullible

yep

however, don't underestimate the number of people who think "what happens in vegas stays in vegas" is a real thing and a good excuse to be terminally stupid

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

JewKiller 3000 posted:

only people from big cities know how to properly ignore this behavior.

people from big cities usually hate Vegas because it has bullshit their big cities don't

I've lived in Miami for a decade and love Chicago and love New York and vegas is some bullshit because it's full of amateur dipshits from flyoverstan and designed antagonistically

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax
chicago is freezing, new york is filthy, vegas is fake but that's the point. try california imho

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

JewKiller 3000 posted:

chicago is freezing, new york is filthy, vegas is fake but that's the point. try california imho

California is full of Californians

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax
californians are like bees, they won't bother you if you don't bother them. just chill bro, peace

however always remember that you need them for your food, so don't get too uppity ok

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


vegas is pretty OK to live in if you don't actually live in Vegas, see: Summerlin if you're upper-middle class and old or Henderson west of the Boulder Highway otherwise

gently caress north vegas with a rake though!!

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Ciaphas posted:

there's no scam at all, just kind of a skeezy way to call attention to a service they can't legally sell

(unless you drive some 60 miles out to Pahrump and peruse an actually legal brothel but they don't advertise that)

(e) maybe skeezy's not really the right word? whatever

thank you everyone who explained, i was thinking it was a little duller than i imagined but i also found out there was not only a place called pahrump but it also has a brothel, which pleases me greatly.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock
isnt the scam that if you are dumb enough to call one of those numbers, you will get a visit from a girl, but she won't do anything sexual, just hang around

aardvaard
Mar 4, 2013

you belong in the bog of eternal stench

i too read catcher in the rye

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts
lets stick to security stuff and not grody whatever on the vegas strip

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



do they hand out cards with USB connectors on them and/or RFID/NFC chips?

e: the vegas strip is the most shameful attack vector by far

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



do the strippers take bitcoin???

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I did see a bitcoin atm in a seedy smoke shop so maybe?

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

my fiber ISP isn't using link encryption so if you plug in directly to their box you also get a copy off all the traffic destined to the other houses on your segment whoopsiedoodles guess nobody noticed because the wan link on everyone's router just drops it

aardvaard
Mar 4, 2013

you belong in the bog of eternal stench

remember that time a bitcoiner tried to convince camgirls to use bitcoin by pretending to be a camgirl himself and they all saw through it right away

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

my fiber ISP isn't using link encryption so if you plug in directly to their box you also get a copy off all the traffic destined to the other houses on your segment whoopsiedoodles guess nobody noticed because the wan link on everyone's router just drops it
lmao that's a loving hub

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

anthonypants posted:

lmao that's a loving hub

passive optical networks are how basically all FttH rollouts are done to keep costs down

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_optical_network

Each ONT should have a unique encryption key and discarding anything coming down the link that isn't destined to it but whooooooops

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



BangersInMyKnickers posted:

my fiber ISP isn't using link encryption so if you plug in directly to their box you also get a copy off all the traffic destined to the other houses on your segment whoopsiedoodles guess nobody noticed because the wan link on everyone's router just drops it

what box and what service are you on about?

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Some whitebox PON ONT, huewai or something. Regional FttH provider

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

I sat on there for a few min on Wireshark trying to figure out an IPv6 SLAAC issue and got a huge mess of other people's HTTP and DNS traffic blasted at me

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



how is your service delivered? is it IP end-to-end like real GPON or is it VDSL/HFC?

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



lol you're probably on VDSL and there's multiple VCs. that would cause a fuckton of spurious traffic.

e: i wish i spuriously dead

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

cheese-cube posted:

how is your service delivered? is it IP end-to-end like real GPON or is it VDSL/HFC?

I don't know how I can explain the terms Passive Optical Network or Fiber to the Home any better than I already have but you're an idiot. Anyway, the way all PON rollouts work is that there is a single transceiver that blasts downstream traffic for up to 64 subscribers then each has their own ONT box to push their upstream traffic back. Everyone sees the same downstream light to the ONT but the traffic for your box should be wrapped in link encryption so the stuff for other houses is discarded but this is not happening for my ISP so everything not going out over TLS is visible to all the other subscribers on my segment.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



lol ok i guess i missed when you said PON also i didnt know what PON is.

maybe you should report this insanity or something idk

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

ymgve posted:

isnt the scam that if you are dumb enough to call one of those numbers, you will get a visit from a girl, but she won't do anything sexual, just hang around

one could even say she simply escorts you

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

CommunistPancake posted:

i too read catcher in the rye

leaving las vegas is basically catcher 2.0

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

cheese-cube posted:

lol ok i guess i missed when you said PON also i didnt know what PON is.

maybe you should report this insanity or something idk

I am a little concerned with reprisal as a customer. Not really sure the best way to prove the point without giving them a pcap from my house and then they would know at minimum what node segment I'm on. They're still the best ISP available

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Not really sure the best way to prove the point without giving them a pcap from my house and then they would know at minimum what node segment I'm on.

wonder if they'd tos you or just call the cops and report you for wiretapping

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



BangersInMyKnickers posted:

I am a little concerned with reprisal as a customer. Not really sure the best way to prove the point without giving them a pcap from my house and then they would know at minimum what node segment I'm on. They're still the best ISP available

reprisal as a customer? reprisal by the company against you for being a customer? i'm pretty sure any instance of them loving you up for attempting disclosure would be prosecutable.

try and get a field tech on-site, one who is trained for PON instead of just PSTN garbage (sounds like you'll get one who is well trained most likely). go from there

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Both seem like fun, viable possibilities in this situation regardless of them being the ones who installed the tap in my house. Is this something I can run through the FCC?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

cheese-cube posted:

i'm pretty sure any instance of them loving you up for attempting disclosure would be prosecutable.

:lol:

what country do you live in?

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



hobbesmaster posted:

:lol:

what country do you live in?

australia where our consumer protection laws aren't exactly garbage i guess?

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Both seem like fun, viable possibilities in this situation regardless of them being the ones who installed the tap in my house. Is this something I can run through the FCC?

nfi about FCC but just get a tech on-site to replicate the fault (yeah yeah i know), the tech will talk the magic words back to whatever dinguses do provisioning on the backend and maybe things will get sorted?

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Both seem like fun, viable possibilities in this situation regardless of them being the ones who installed the tap in my house. Is this something I can run through the FCC?

If you think something is amiss, reporting to the FCC is a good call. It is my understanding that reprisal for reporting them to the FCC would be some sort of crime or tort. (Not a lawyer)

Generic expressions of "hey this company sucks" can probably be met with "ok lol bye", to put it all legalesey.

This copying?

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

I am a little concerned with reprisal as a customer. Not really sure the best way to prove the point without giving them a pcap from my house and then they would know at minimum what node segment I'm on. They're still the best ISP available

w/ ISPs they probably wont go after you unless its a government backed entity. also getting a hold of a higher level tech would be the way to go cause they're in a position to understand what you're saying and not have a motive to shut you down.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Shaggar posted:

w/ ISPs they probably wont go after you unless its a government backed entity. also getting a hold of a higher level tech would be the way to go cause they're in a position to understand what you're saying and not have a motive to shut you down.

Maybe I'll open a ticket under the guise of getting IPv6 setup and see if I can slip it in that I am seeing other people's traffic

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

maskenfreiheit posted:

If you think something is amiss, reporting to the FCC is a good call. It is my understanding that reprisal for reporting them to the FCC would be some sort of crime or tort. (Not a lawyer)

Generic expressions of "hey this company sucks" can probably be met with "ok lol bye", to put it all legalesey.

This copying?


if your FCC report isn't someone violating broadcast frequency/power they don't give a gently caress

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anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

cheese-cube posted:

reprisal as a customer? reprisal by the company against you for being a customer? i'm pretty sure any instance of them loving you up for attempting disclosure would be prosecutable.

try and get a field tech on-site, one who is trained for PON instead of just PSTN garbage (sounds like you'll get one who is well trained most likely). go from there
they're worried that if they deliver a pcap of their network traffic to their isp, they will deduce that they have been hacked and send fbi agents to their house. how have you not been on the internet for the past decade

an isp field tech isn't going to know gently caress about poo poo, say everything is working correctly, and bill them for their trouble

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