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Mr. Crow posted:You're kidding yourself if you think war with NK won't end as quickly and embarrassingly as Iraq (not the occupation). In a war against NK most of the NK casualties would probably be NK officers shooting deserters. Edit: Dog Tax 
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Dietrich posted:In a war against NK most of the NK casualties would probably be NK officers shooting deserters. They'll embrace us as liberators, just like in Iraq and Afghanistan
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Aug 1, 2017 20:04
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Al Borland Corp. posted:NK soldiers are well fed. They're about the only people in DPRK who are. NK soldiers are fed. I wouldn't call them well fed. Your Taint posted:I dare not turn on FOX because I don't want to lose brain cells, but have any of you brave souls tuned in today? Have they commented on this Seth Rich story? There's a Seth Rich story? I've seen nothing on it and I've been watching most of the day. Mostly it's been Kelly.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:05
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KickerOfMice posted:Antivaxxer dog autism. Christ. Besides everyone knows it's cats that have autism.
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Lightning Lord posted:Yeah but in that case the leadership might just detonate warheads as an outgoing gently caress you to the world. The problem with nuclear war with Russia and China are that they have literally thousands of ICBMs they could launch at once. North Korea doesn't even have one, shooting down a single or even a couple dozen theoretical missiles is not going to be a big deal.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:06
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Pellisworth posted:They'll embrace us as liberators, just like in Iraq and Afghanistan Right because the political situation in Iraq is just like DPRK.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:07
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North Korea isn't some rich paradise but it's weird how people still talk about a famine from twenty years ago like its current events.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:07
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Mr. Crow posted:You're kidding yourself if you think war with NK won't end as quickly and embarrassingly as Iraq (not the occupation). The problem with war with North Korea isn't winning, the US will win that war every time. The problem is how many people die when North Korea shells the poo poo out of one of the densest and most populous cities in the world - to say nothing of any potential nuclear threat or the massive refugee crisis that will ensue when that country collapses.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:09
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DrNutt posted:Besides everyone knows it's cats that have autism. How dare you! What's your source on this specious cla... https://www.amazon.com/All-Cats-Have-Asperger-Syndrome/dp/1843104814 Oh, carry on.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:09
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Mr. Crow posted:The problem with nuclear war with Russia and China are that they have literally thousands of ICBMs they could launch at once. No, I mean land detonate a warhead/dirty nuke.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:09
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:North Korea isn't some rich paradise but it's weird how people still talk about a famine from twenty years ago like its current events. NK might not be currently undergoing a famine but its well known that the vast majority of food production goes straight to the military while the rest of the population survives on the meager remains.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:09
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As if a bunch of starving norks would prove more than a road bump for the us military... Oorah
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Aug 1, 2017 20:09
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If I were to go to war with North Korea, I would do [insert random speculation/strategy from an unqualified individual who has never studied military strategy or served in the military].
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Aug 1, 2017 20:10
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Krispy Kareem posted:
There's a racial discrimination lawsuit against Fox where someone alleges that the White House pushed the Seth Rich story on Fox to distract from Russia. There's nothing in that sentence that makes me think Fox News would acknowledge this story.
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ekeog posted:https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/892454136108773380 I actually don't know how he can possibly continue representing Trump. He either knowingly lied to the public or Trump lied to him. Either way, his ability to effectively represent Trump is gone.
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evilweasel posted:I actually don't know how he can possibly continue representing Trump. He either knowingly lied to the public or Trump lied to him. Either way, his ability to effectively represent Trump is gone. I feel like state bars really aren't doing their job here
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Aug 1, 2017 20:12
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This whole administration is like playing a Phoenix Wright trial where you can shout "objection" at every single statement.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:13
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Al Borland Corp. posted:NK soldiers are well fed. They're about the only people in DPRK who are. Yeah theres a reason they have a disproportionate amount of the total population in their military. It's just about one of the only ways to eek out a sort of living outside of being an inner party person where you might actually get a car or something god forbid
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Aug 1, 2017 20:13
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So if Trump asked Fox News to push Seth Rich conspiracies, then that means, by Law of Trumpian Projection, Trump had a campaign worker killed to keep something quiet 
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Aug 1, 2017 20:14
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so like how long until trump is a hermit president, never leaving mar a lago and only communicating with everyone via tweet
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:NK might not be currently undergoing a famine but its well known that the vast majority of food production goes straight to the military while the rest of the population survives on the meager remains. Who knows, most stuff "everyone knows" about North Korea is made up garbage
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Aug 1, 2017 20:16
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Covok posted:A part of me wants to give this a semi-pass. Their sentiment is absolutely abhorrent and racist, but, when I first saw the photo, I thought I was looking at people in big black, full body cloaks too until I stared for a few seconds longer. https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576
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Spiritus Nox posted:The problem with war with North Korea isn't winning, the US will win that war every time. The problem is how many people die when North Korea shells the poo poo out of one of the densest and most populous cities in the world - to say nothing of any potential nuclear threat or the massive refugee crisis that will ensue when that country collapses. Isn't the party line of propaganda that Seoul is under occupation and brainwashing by evil American imperialists and that they arm themselves and maintain their disproportionately massive enrollment in the army for the eventually great liberation if their brothers? I suppose they could bullshit that America torched Seoul out of spite or something but like what would be the ppint?
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skylined! posted:so like how long until trump is a hermit president, never leaving mar a lago and only communicating with everyone via tweet He's got the trip planned for most of August already
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JuniperCake posted:China is frustrated by NK but they want to be seen as the defining power in the region so they absolutely can't do nothing if there is a US invasion. That would be very embarrassing for them (what worth is China's protection if the US can just come in and destroy you anyways?). For obvious reasons they wouldn't want direct war with us but who knows what will happen if they feel pressured into acting. It definitely wouldn't just be sanctions. It would at least result in a proxy war on the peninsula if not cold war relations with the threat of escalation to something far more severe. This. China wants status quo (because its making them rich and powerful), North Korea is a headache just because they don't want a status quo (they want to get rich and powerful instead). Under Obama this was diplomatically manageable, since most of the world wanted a status quo. I'm scared now since Trump is a narcissistic orange-soda can who deifies military history and Great Men in the Military, without having ever having served in war himself. He aught to be under pressure from the last six months and that he can't make it go away. Everyone (Republicans) should be frightened if this soda-can wants to pop.
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Dr Christmas posted:So if Trump asked Fox News to push Seth Rich conspiracies, then that means, by Law of Trumpian Projection, Trump had a campaign worker killed to keep something quiet I've had a running joke with my friends that Trump's campaign and (unfortunately) presidency has been a 1:1 mirror to the lyrics of Bohemian Rhapsody. We've had "Nothing really matters", "Scaramouch", and "Just gotta get right outta here", so it only makes sense that we're rapidly closing in on "Momma, just killed a man..."
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Spiritus Nox posted:The problem with war with North Korea isn't winning, the US will win that war every time. The problem is how many people die when North Korea shells the poo poo out of one of the densest and most populous cities in the world - to say nothing of any potential nuclear threat or the massive refugee crisis that will ensue when that country collapses. Yes but everyone keeps bringing up their supposed threat to the US and nuking west coast cities, it's not going to happen. Also the couple people suggesting the military is well fed, maybe in regards to the average civilian, but well fed in NK is not well fed in SK. Look up news articles on any number of defectors and descriptions of the current situation. Sure the officers and some very specific units are probably well fed but there are numerous sources saying rank and file are getting slightly better than jack poo poo. Edit: here's one article barely a month old http://www.newsweek.com/soldiers-life-north-korean-army-marked-hunger-and-defections-are-rising-627596 Mr. Crow fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Kale posted:Isn't the party line of propaganda that Seoul is under occupation and brainwashing by evil American imperialists and that they arm themselves and maintain their disproportionately massive enrollment in the army for the eventually great liberation if their brothers? I suppose they could bullshit that America torched Seoul out of spite or something but like what would be the ppint? Probably because an invasion would cause the regime to collapse and gently caress you
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Krispy Kareem posted:Well you can stop most of them. But that means we're nuking first. Here's another liberal lusting after war. I'm convinced the reason why liberals hate trump has more to do with tone than any real policy differences
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Aug 1, 2017 20:19
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Covok posted:If I were to go to war with North Korea, I would do [insert random speculation/strategy from an unqualified individual who has never studied military strategy or served in the military]. And that's exactly how the decision to go to war will take place in the Whitehouse.
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Kale posted:Isn't the party line of propaganda that Seoul is under occupation and brainwashing by evil American imperialists and that they arm themselves and maintain their disproportionately massive enrollment in the army for the eventually great liberation if their brothers? I suppose they could bullshit that America torched Seoul out of spite or something but like what would be the ppint? I'm going to go out on a limb and suppose that the dirt-poor millitary dictatorship's propoganda isn't going to sweat the details if things come to that.
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mod sassinator posted:And that's exactly how the decision to go to war will take place in the Whitehouse. "It worked for W!"
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Mr. Crow posted:The problem with nuclear war with Russia and China are that they have literally thousands of ICBMs they could launch at once. If you hit. If you miss...
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mod sassinator posted:And that's exactly how the decision to go to war will take place in the Whitehouse. Oh Dear God...
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Aug 1, 2017 20:21
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Covok posted:If I were to go to war with North Korea, I would do [insert random speculation/strategy from an unqualified individual who has never studied military strategy or served in the military]. I have in fact got a Master's in Strategic Studies  And I say nuke the next major party conference.
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Aug 1, 2017 20:23
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Mister Adequate posted:I have in fact got a Master's in Strategic Studies I can support this, have you considered running? 
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Peven Stan posted:Here's another liberal lusting after war. Who me? I thought I was the token Republican in this thread. I don't want war. Just pointing out war would have been better in the mid-90's when North Korea had no nukes and was barely keeping itself together. Ironically if North Korea nukes Seoul or Japan, history books will be a lot less appreciative of Jimmy Carter's post-presidency accomplishments.
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