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Mike "loving hates rookies" Zimmer can't stop gushing about Dalvin Cook. Make of that what you will (also Latavius is still hurt so he may not have a choice)quote:Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said second-round RB Dalvin Cook has impressed his teammates during camp.
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Moved from last page... I need help from someone who has done a dynasty league with a snake style startup draft I think this has been discussed, but how does a dynasty league that uses a snake startup draft handle the value of players for each following season after the first? In an auction league, you have a salary cap, and each season following the startup season, a players contract would increase 10%(or whatever amount you decide) from whatever dollar amount they were drafted at. (Ex: If you drafted someone for $10, next season their contract would be $11. A 10%/$1 increase) But in a snake draft (non-auction) league, how does this work? Would you still use a salary cap and just apply a dollar amount by round? Like a first round pick is $25, second is $24, third is $23? I'm looking to start a first time dynasty league using a 25 round startup snake draft. I'm having trouble figuring out how to handle player values going forward. I don't want teams to just be able to keep all 25 players with no penalty year to year, ya know? Can anyone give some insight? RCarr fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 20:56
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RCarr posted:Moved from last page... If I did a dynasty league from scratch I would do something with a salary cap, where the salary was based on the total points scored by a portion of the roster. For example the salary cap could be the total points scored by the top starters in each position and then players get to keep up to that value (including bench). Remaining players are then put into a draft with rookies.
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89 posted:Quick mock This is mocking against AI though, I've never failed to come out of those mocks with A+ best case drafts.
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RCarr posted:Moved from last page... Our salary cap league is $300 cap. Cost increases 10% every year for the first three years, then every subsequent year is an additional 10% from the previous year. So year four is a 20% increase from year three. Year five is a 30% increase from year four, etc. Dynasty salary cap start up drafts take loving forever, so be warned. But our system balances being able to keep players forever if you are smart with constantly having good players in free agency because they become too expensive. If you are going to have a salary cap league, it should be implemented right away. It's unfair otherwise. The value should be determined by the league. If you do a snake draft, it should only be used for the start up. Otherwise bad teams are going to stay bad. However, if you have contracts, your next year should probably be an auction draft. Honestly, it's be easier to pick a lane and stick with it. Either salary cap or regular draft. Trying to do both will only create more issues.
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Sataere posted:Our salary cap league is $300 cap. Cost increases 10% every year for the first three years, then every subsequent year is an additional 10% from the previous year. So year four is a 20% increase from year three. Year five is a 30% increase from year four, etc. You would HAVE to do an auction startup draft in order to do a salary cap league, correct? Would it be possible to do a startup snake draft and convert player values into salary($$) amounts? That's basically what I'm trying to figure out. Sataere posted:Honestly, it's be easier to pick a lane and stick with it. Either salary cap or regular draft. Trying to do both will only create more issues. If we just do a regular draft with no salary cap, what's the best way to keep a great team from being dominant forever? Make it so you can only keep a player for X amount of years? That seems like it kind of just makes it a glorified keeper league, rather than a true dynasty league. It seems like salary cap is absolutely the way to go for a dynasty league, but you can't really do that unless you do an auction draft. All my friends don't want to do an auction draft 
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Aug 1, 2017 21:41
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That's why I like linking salary cap to points scored. Draft the first year, then deal with caps.
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RCarr posted:You would HAVE to do an auction startup draft in order to do a salary cap league, correct? Would it be possible to do a startup snake draft and convert player values into salary($$) amounts? That's basically what I'm trying to figure out. Not necessarily. I just wouldn't want to. quote:
Nah, dynasty leagues can fluctuate. The rookie draft can have a huge impact rosters and that is NOT a snake draft. So bad teams getting their share of the top rookies can get you competitive pretty quickly. Like, three years ago you could've been dominating with Jamaal Charles, but the guy with the number one pick last year is loving Zeke. And there are always guys who hit the waiver wire. Beer gave a solid option for getting a salary baseline, but I wouldn't worry too much about controlling players too long. The window for dominance is pretty small even for top tier players. And tell your friends they are lame. There is no better feeling than having cost controlled superstars on your roster.
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Aug 1, 2017 22:04
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Jordan Reed is visiting a specialist for his toe.
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Benne posted:Mike "loving hates rookies" Zimmer can't stop gushing about Dalvin Cook. Make of that what you will (also Latavius is still hurt so he may not have a choice) I still don't trust Zimmer and I would be a lot less skeptical if his ADP were two rounds later, but the longer Murray is out who the gently caress knows? I definitely said that there was plenty of room to double back on "don't draft Cook" if Murray's recovery is slower than anticipated, and so far that's definitely been the case. If he can get on the field before the preseason is over and looks good, then that gets really murky and he becomes a great late draft pickup as his ADP wouldn't have much time to rise. Keep in mind that a lot of people at Vikings camp like Bishop loving Sankey right now too so lol meet the new boss same as the old boss Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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I am doing a bunch of best ball drafts with some friends and have the following scenario picking 3rd overall. 1st Pick - Zeke 2nd Pick - Freeman (not sure how he made it to the end of the 2nd) For my 3rd pick, Jordan Howard is available and is imo the best player available, but would also be my 3rd RB. The top WR's available include TY, Amari, Dez, Baldwin, Hopkins, Cooks, Watkins, and DThomas. I feel like I can probably get Thomas in the 4th and I don't know that any of the others are worth a pick above Howard. I would take TY in a heartbeat if Luck's situation wasn't so concerning. What do you guys think?
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MrSargent posted:I am doing a bunch of best ball drafts with some friends and have the following scenario picking 3rd overall. Especially in best ball, just take the player you like most. Having Zeke, Freeman, Howard can be huge. You just load up on receivers and can easily be in a position with DT, Fitz, Decker, Maclin, Diggs and a couple fliers just looking for the best week performer. You can make a good case for any of those receivers.
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RCarr posted:You would HAVE to do an auction startup draft in order to do a salary cap league, correct? Would it be possible to do a startup snake draft and convert player values into salary($$) amounts? That's basically what I'm trying to figure out. In the SAS Dynasty League we have equal numbers of 1, 3 and 5 year contracts that we assign to drafted players. When contracts run out we have options for franchising them or they get dropped back into the FA pool for each season's FA draft. e: thread lays it out better than I do https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3825100&pagenumber=1 Veritek83 fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 23:00
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So how confident are people feeling about Ty Montgomery?
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Tiptoes posted:So how confident are people feeling about Ty Montgomery? Very high on him. He's one of my main rb targets as I'm waiting on rb this year.
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RCarr posted:It seems like salary cap is absolutely the way to go for a dynasty league, but you can't really do that unless you do an auction draft. All my friends don't want to do an auction draft In the "I Paid What for Who?" dynasty league here, we did a startup auction draft, and then we do annual rookie/free agent drafts that start out with draft order somewhat determined by standings the previous year, and then converting to snake after the first two rounds. For that draft, salaries are determined by draft order: The first four picks in the first round are paid $20 The fifth through eighth picks are paid $18 The ninth through twelfth picks are paid $16 All players drafted in the second round are paid $8 All players drafted in the third round are paid $4 All players drafted in the fourth round are paid $2 All remaining drafted players (fifth and later rounds) are paid $1 Owners can trade their draft picks, and any owner can voluntarily skip a draft pick (which they'd presumably do if they feel no available player is worth the salary cost, or would have to do if they're already at their salary cap.) Before the draft, owners can drop players to free up slots. Every year kept players' salaries go up 10%, and we have a salary cap. We have taxi squads and IR slots, too, but we have not instituted a contract mechanic - something we might do in the future. This system isn't perfect. We're entering our third year and it seems like there's some players grabbed very cheap - like David Johnson - who will never be worth so much that their owner would feel pressure to drop them, meaning it's a permanent lifetime slot. So probably we'll need either some kind of increasing progression of salary, or imposed maximum contracts, or something like that. You can see our entire current ruleset here. As for host: we did our first year on ESPN, and then moved to MFL. MFL costs money but it's worth it for dynasty; it can track player salaries and allow you to mass-adjust them, track and impose a salary cap, has far more options for things like taxi squads, scoring, FAAB and other free agency stuff, has much better flexibility for your draft, etc. etc. The UI is indeed terrible, but its one saving grace is that everything is well-documented. Every single widget, field, page, etc. has one or more entries in their help center, so if you just take the time to read what you need to read, you can figure out. Also while there's no "official" MFL app, there is an app, and it's not bad. Look for "MFL Platinum" on the iStore or android marketplace.
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Disregard everything I said about not worrying about Luck yet. PUP is indeed an option. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colts-camp-process-being-stressed-above-all-as-andrew-luck-remains-sidelined/
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coronaball posted:Disregard everything I said about not worrying about Luck yet. PUP is indeed an option. Yeah I'm getting nervous now.
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whoa breshad perriman is hurt again and kevin white doesnt feel right this is me being shocked. 
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Spoeank posted:whoa breshad perriman is hurt again and kevin white doesnt feel right this is me being shocked. Maclin should be a great value pick.
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Sataere posted:Especially in best ball, just take the player you like most. Having Zeke, Freeman, Howard can be huge. You just load up on receivers and can easily be in a position with DT, Fitz, Decker, Maclin, Diggs and a couple fliers just looking for the best week performer. Ended up taking Howard and got DT as my WR1 in the fourth which I think is great. Having RBs of Zeke, Freeman, and Howard seems pretty drat good. In my other best ball draft I went: AB84 (4th) Jordan Howard Lamar Miller Demaryius Thomas Alshon Jeffrey Dalvin Cook Which I also thought was solid.
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Tiptoes posted:So how confident are people feeling about Ty Montgomery? He'll get yards, probably lots of them, the concern is that the Packers get throw-happy near the end zone, and when they do run it, half the time they pound it in with the fullback. But the dude had a ridiculous YPC given how other RBs did in that system, and he looks raring to go, with his only competition being a rookie, Jamaal Williams out of BYU.
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Papes posted:Very high on him. He's one of my main rb targets as I'm waiting on rb this year.  I was skeptical of him earlier in the offseason but they're saying all the right things about him in Packers camp. How many of the names in front of him would you slot below Montgomery? At this point, I think I'd take him over Gurley and everyone after him.
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I'd take Miller over Montgomery, but otherwise agree.
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I agree as long as I can move Fournette to his rightful place above Jordan Howard. And take Todd Gurley and Marshawn Lynch and throw them in the drat trash
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Re: Fournette Are you at all concerned about Doug Marrone wanting to play 1970s football in the year 2017? I feel like that may not work as much as he's boasting it will and that it is how a bad offense will stay bad. I am hesitant to draft Fournette aggressively despite liking his talents.
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Cheating for Charity is up! Looking for anyone who is interested in playing for a good cause! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3828867
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https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/892727108379791360
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https://twitter.com/JordanRaanan/status/892769133057658880 Godammit.
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Aug 2, 2017 16:39
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the month of ACL deaths has begun
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Which pairing would you prefer in 0.5 PPR? LeVeon Bell, Julio Jones, Russell Wilson, Greg Olsen/Jimmy Graham David Johnson, Antonio Brown, Kyle Rudolph, Kirk Cousins/Jameis Winston I kind of lean towards the first one because it's more well rounded, but it's hard to turn down DJ + AB.
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It's okay theres Brandon Marshall there now and hes definitely not past his prime Oh and Shephard was a starting wide receiver for me in Dynasty  But don't worry, tight end is locked up. Sure, I traded Eifert away last season but I have Jordan Re--huh? He's hurt too?
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CompeAnansi posted:Which pairing would you prefer in 0.5 PPR? What size is the league? I'm leaning 2. I really would love to have that DJ/AB combo and I think you can find a serviceable TE and QB out there.
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Varg posted:the month of ACL deaths has begun Update says ankle but who knows.
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Inspector_666 posted:Update says ankle but who knows. Hope is a bad roll.
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pubic works project posted:What size is the league? I'm leaning 2. I really would love to have that DJ/AB combo and I think you can find a serviceable TE and QB out there. It's an auction league, so I can go after whoever I want. But just for reference, it is a 12 team league.
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CompeAnansi posted:It's an auction league, so I can go after whoever I want. But just for reference, it is a 12 team league. Oh well if it's an auction league good luck getting those two and being able to fill out the rest of your roster. Someone is going to make you drastically overpay for those guys.
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Abugadu posted:He'll get yards, probably lots of them, the concern is that the Packers get throw-happy near the end zone, and when they do run it, half the time they pound it in with the fullback. But the dude had a ridiculous YPC given how other RBs did in that system, and he looks raring to go, with his only competition being a rookie, Jamaal Williams out of BYU. The Packers literally drafted 3RBs this year. I don't think you blow three picks on at the position if you're happy with what you have there. It makes me leery of Montgomery at his current spot.
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pubic works project posted:What size is the league? I'm leaning 2. I really would love to have that DJ/AB combo and I think you can find a serviceable TE and QB out there. Kirk Cousins was a Top-5 fantasy qb last year, how is that not serviceable?
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