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chutche2 posted:Iron Warriors have the same exact chapter tactic as imperial fists. *whomp whomp* Still, I like the relic and warlord trait.
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Warlord trait is fine I guess? Their legion warlord trait is the same as a generic space marine trait.
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Aug 1, 2017 15:38
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I dig that tzeentch spell at least. Gonna love that poo poo in my thousand sons. Months from now 
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Are we allowed to post leaks in here? Because someone has leaked all the CSM strategems and psychic powers in a tiny unreadable picture and in French. How's your tiny French?
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Are we allowed to post leaks in here? Because someone has leaked all the CSM strategems and psychic powers in a tiny unreadable picture and in French. I'm French, so, let's try this?
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Aug 1, 2017 15:50
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Aug 1, 2017 15:53
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So the Iron Warriors stratagem from their facebook is to give a unit 6+ FNP for one phase for 1 cp. Holy poo poo that's amazingly mediocre. I guess it could be nice if you put it on some kind of lord of war.
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Aug 1, 2017 16:05
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Pictures of leaked pages are like pictures of Bigfoot.
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Okay this is blurry as poo poo so the only thing I can decipher is names. Stratagems: ??? Tir Frénétique (Frenzied Shooting) (Chaos Space Marines Stratagem) Agents Avancés (Advanced Agents) (Alpha Legion Stratagem) Pacte Noir (Dark Pact) (Word Bearers Stratagem) ??? Mépris Pour La Sorcellerie (Contempt For Witchcraft) (World Eaters Stratagem) Excès De Violence (Excessive Violence) (Emperor's Children Stratagem) Frappes De Nuit (Night Strikes) (Night Lords Stratagem) Que Brûle La Galaxie (Let The Galaxy Burn) (Black Legion Stratagem) Psychic powers: ??? Maléfice Fatal (Fatal Curse) Don Du Chaos (Chaotic Gift) ??? ??? Temps Altéré (Altered Time)
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ElNarez posted:Agents Avancés (Advanced Agents) (Alpha Legion Stratagem) There is no way this isn't just the Raven Guard infiltrate stratagem renamed. 
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Aug 1, 2017 16:15
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Yeah World Eaters will be a C+P of Black Templars too.
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chutche2 posted:So the Iron Warriors stratagem from their facebook is to give a unit 6+ FNP for one phase for 1 cp. Holy poo poo that's amazingly mediocre. I guess it could be nice if you put it on some kind of lord of war. Welp. Guess IW are staying in the box.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Welp. Guess IW are staying in the box. Eh, yeah. I don't play Chaos, but that's not that great of a stratagem. It feels weird that Iron Warriors get a 6+ FNP but Electro-Priests with Fanatical Devotion have a 5+. I'm not going to complain too hard. Fanatical Devotion let my unit of 5 Fulgurite Electro-Priests last 4 game turns without losing a single guy. Iron Within, Iron Without could be beneficial though, if you absolutely had to keep bodies alive through a phase.
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jesus imagine your playing an army being predicated on whether their rules were top-tier and not just decent
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TheChirurgeon posted:jesus imagine your playing an army being predicated on whether their rules were top-tier and not just decent Imagine giving a gently caress about what factors other people use to decide if they want to play an army or not.
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I'm happy it makes cultist blobs viable in at least one lot of Traitor Legions. Is it as good as Salamander chapter tactics? No. Will I be able to cackle manically as a horde of cultists advance implacably forward, scowling as their companions to their left and right fall under a withering fire of bolter, flame and psybolts? Hell yeah.
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Aug 1, 2017 17:34
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I hope the renegade stuff is cool, because I have a lot of nurgle stuff that can't go into death guard that I want decent rules to be able to use in a separate formation to help my death guard
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Imagine giving a gently caress about what factors other people use to decide if they want to play an army or not. Hey man if you want to put the time and energy into collecting, assembling, and painting an army only to shelve it when the new rules don't immediately wow you, be my guest
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This is why everyone should just play what they think is the most awesome looking army.
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Bombogenesis posted:This is why everyone should just play what they think is the most awesome looking army. But then everyone would play Admec.
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I'm going to be running a small tournament at the renegade open. For a while, it was going to be kill team. Then 8th edition pretty much made that impossible. Then we considered Shadow War Armageddon, but polls and discussion around has shown there would be too little interest in that. So I'm thinking I might try to do combat patrol. Can run basic missions and play very much like regular 40k. The only difference is point limits and I think you need to restrict units. I'm thinking of borrowing heavily from the adepticon rules. One detachment. 400 points. 1-3 troops 0-1 elites 0-1 fast attack 0-1 heavy support 0-1 flex unit that can be troop, elite, FA or HS. May take 1 dedicated transport for each unit as normal. HQ, LoW, fortifications and flyers not allowed. No named characters. No models with 10 or more wounds unless it's a dedicated transport. No models T8 or higher. No forgeworld. Thoughts? Too restrictive or not restrictive enough?
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Master Twig posted:I'm going to be running a small tournament at the renegade open. For a while, it was going to be kill team. Then 8th edition pretty much made that impossible. Then we considered Shadow War Armageddon, but polls and discussion around has shown there would be too little interest in that. Im not sure No Forgeworld is necessary given the other restrictions. Beyond that it looks fine.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Im not sure No Forgeworld is necessary given the other restrictions. Beyond that it looks fine. Yeah even if you allowed FW, the no named char, no flyer, and T7 or below restrictions cut out anything I can imagine being a problem. Hell, I'm not even sure you need to specify no non-transports with W10+ given that you're at 400 points max with a 1-3 troops requirement. e: Also with the new matched play rule on flyers, I'm not sure they're as big a problem either, especially at that points level.
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Cainer posted:But then everyone would play Admec. If i could get gobs of AdMech "cheaply" off eBay like i did for Primaris, i would be in so much trouble. Bombogenesis posted:This is why everyone should just play what they think is the most awesome looking army. I think this is where I am in my gamer life progression. I really just want to paint my mans, and see other people's painted mans. Rolling buckets of dice also sounds great. dexefiend fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Does anyone who has/has seen the sprues for the non snapfit Bigmars know if the shoulder pads are bigger than the older stuff i.e. if some retard bought a chapter upgrade sprue would the shoulders fit the newer stuff? Asking for a friend.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Hey man if you want to put the time and energy into collecting, assembling, and painting an army only to shelve it when the new rules don't immediately wow you, be my guest While I might disagree with this sentiment, if Beer doesn't like the rules for his guys, he has zero problem with shelving his stuff. I don't think he played a single game of 6th or 7th. That's some conviction. Also, Beer4theBeerGod, I played against an ork player who basically cloned your 1500 pt. list that stomped me twice and tabled him so maybe I'm ready for a rematch sometime soon.
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richyp posted:Does anyone who has/has seen the sprues for the non snapfit Bigmars know if the shoulder pads are bigger than the older stuff i.e. if some retard bought a chapter upgrade sprue would the shoulders fit the newer stuff? Asking for a friend. I put a shoulder from the Blood Angels upgrade sprue onto one of the smaller, knife wielding shoulder from the Reiver set without any trouble at all. I didn't have to shave it down or anything, though it was a slightly more snug fit than with the small marines. E: For the sake of clarity I think the shoulder I used is the standard size for Primaris. The other shoulder is bit larger due to the fact that you don't actually put a normal shoulder pad on it. Pendent fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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panascope posted:Imagine playing I often do...it may even happen one day. Who can say?
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Indolent Bastard posted:I often do...it may even happen one day. Who can say? Is this some kind of game or something?
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The Sex Cannon posted:While I might disagree with this sentiment, if Beer doesn't like the rules for his guys, he has zero problem with shelving his stuff. I don't think he played a single game of 6th or 7th. That's some conviction. I think I got one game of sixth in. Sounds like we should get something done then. I also plan on getting these Primaris guys up and running eventually so it should be fun to have some variety.
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GW are running GTs again: https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/warhammer-40000-grand-tournament/ Might actually go. I wrote up a bullet hell SM/IG list earlier on which would be a laugh to take.
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All that Iron Warriors speculation last page is pretty funny in hindsight.
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Rulebook Heavily posted:People tried running https://www.spacemarineheroes.com through google translate. love guns are eternal buddies and trustworthy friends.
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Corrode posted:GW are running GTs again: https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/warhammer-40000-grand-tournament/ Do it. And tell me about bullet hell.
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Cainer posted:But then everyone would play Admec. Exactly why I play AdMech. Join us.
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Naramyth posted:Do it. And tell me about bullet hell. It's slightly less hellish now I realised that Battalions only get 3 HS slots and not 4 but: SM: Captain with fist relic Librarian Lieutenant with combi-flamer/axe Ironclad with double HF, chainfist 4x Tacs, 5 dudes and a flamer 2x Devs, 1x 4 HBs, 1x 4 lascannons 6x Razorbacks, 3x las/plas, 3x asscan IG: Company Commander Tempestor Prime Primaris Psyker 2x Scions, double plasma 1x Infantry, flamer 2x solo Scout Sentinels, autocannons 2x HWTs, autocannons 1x Manticore 2k on the button. 9 CPs (6 really since 3 are going on the Chapter Master), re-rolls to hit everywhere, tons of crowd control, a cheerful squad of IG infantry whose only job is to take up a 3rd Troop slot and stand in front of everyone else to push back deep strikers, and shitloads of auto-, rear end- and lascans, plus two Smiters. There's obvious fat in there (I had exactly 160pts spare and in went the Ironclad, which is relatively points inefficient but also one of my favourite toys) but gently caress it, it's probably good enough to club some seals. Zuul the Cat posted:Exactly why I play AdMech. I'm dying to buy into AdMech but I have no idea how they play or whatever, just that they look awesome. When you already have 4 armies a 5th is extraneous and yet here I am.
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Corrode posted:
So far in 8th I've found that you should take as many Neutron Lasers as you can, take Kastelan Robots and take Fulgurite-Electro Priests. The troops choices are okay (Kataphrons are really good, Vanguard and Rangers are garbage), but they're really there as meat (metal?) shields so your robots can get in and beat things to death with their gigantic, hydraulic powered fists. And obviously, get Cawl and take Cawl. Rerolling any hits in the shootings phase is amazing.
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Ironclad with a librarian seems pretty drat efficient to me. Put might of heroes on that rear end in a top hat for a T9 S14 A5 dreadnought.
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Zuul the Cat posted:So far in 8th I've found that you should take as many Neutron Lasers as you can, take Kastelan Robots and take Fulgurite-Electro Priests. The troops choices are okay (Kataphrons are really good, Vanguard and Rangers are garbage), but they're really there as meat (metal?) shields so your robots can get in and beat things to death with their gigantic, hydraulic powered fists. It's a shame because I was going to get a couple the Start Collecting boxes which will leave me with a ton of Skitarii, but then again the Onager things look good and one of those is like 4/5th of the box cost so whatever. chutche2 posted:Ironclad with a librarian seems pretty drat efficient to me. Yeah that could be seriously comical.
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