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i wasn't a fan of "oscars so white" because it was a superficial campaign that ignored the deeper problem of racist (and sexist) hollywood casting practices while allowing people to feel good about tweeting a hashtag. but, at least public consciousness allowed one of the minor awards ceremonies to require diversity in casting in order to be considered. the oscars will be completely whitewashed next year because they did the same thing after "12 Years A Slave" swept, though but i don't see "No Confederacy" as anything other than puritanical whining
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get that OUT of my face posted:i wasn't a fan of "oscars so white" because it was a superficial campaign that ignored the deeper problem of racist (and sexist) hollywood casting practices while allowing people to feel good about tweeting a hashtag. but, at least public consciousness allowed one of the minor awards ceremonies to require diversity in casting in order to be considered. the oscars will be completely whitewashed next year because they did the same thing after "12 Years A Slave" swept, though I keep recalling a good criticism of this sort of thing was about how the movie "Glory" focused too much on Matthew Broderick's character instead of Denzel Washington's or Morgan Freeman's. It was ebert that made note of that, and I think he was very much right. Not only was that wrong because it shifted away from the true heroes of the movie, but it also perhaps made the movie a little worse as a result . I think that's a legitimate criticism. I also watched a "Looney tunes" cartoon that got banned because it was animated/directed in an insanely racist way. The sad thing about it was...the voice actors seemed to be very accomplished african americans, and the soundtrack was quite good. Yet, they told them to pretty much put on a "minstrel" show and it made it beyond disgusting to sit through. These are things I like seeing addressed because they really need to be addressed. I imagine these sort of things STILL take place today. e: Bob shitman is back btw https://twitter.com/historyinflicks/status/892093262374240260
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FuzzySkinner posted:I wonder if being "woke" like this is just one giant con to get money out of rich, guilty bourgeious /aristocracy types at this point. This is how crowdfunding works, which is basically the most capitalist thing of all Every famous person under 50 on the right is doing it too
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i dont think political punditry is anything new; same poo poo new models
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FuzzySkinner posted:e: Bob shitman is back btw I'm the guy who thinks going "Psssst" on Twitter when talking about abortion rights is like, a thing, that isn't condescending and embarrassing as gently caress
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FuzzySkinner posted:I keep recalling a good criticism of this sort of thing was about how the movie "Glory" focused too much on Matthew Broderick's character instead of Denzel Washington's or Morgan Freeman's. It was ebert that made note of that, and I think he was very much right. Not only was that wrong because it shifted away from the true heroes of the movie, but it also perhaps made the movie a little worse as a result . Bob's a liberal identerian technocrat who shits on anyone that isnt "smart and "tech savy" and "intellectual" like him, while loving worshiping nintendo like a God that can do no wrong and legit compares the Sega/Nintendo "war" as his "personal vietnam" and any game thats a FPS is a evil jock conservative simulator.
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FuzzySkinner posted:e: Bob shitman is back btw 
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comedyblissoption posted:how can your head not explode from this much cognitive dissonance because he is an idiot who desperetly thinks he is some galactic brain WOKE art critic so he can save gaming from the jocks and the GOP.
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I still don't understand this logic. I've seen it use by the wokes, and it confuses me. I would dance a loving jig if someone like Chuck Schumer got replaced by someone like Nina Turner. On the flipside? Would Bob, others support Sarah Palin over Joe Biden because one has female private parts and the other doesn't?
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/891000841846624257 Do these folks not know that Obama deported more people than any other president, or do they just not care?
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doesnt surprise me but the PSUV is terrible now and maduro is loving idiot monster.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:doesnt surprise me but the PSUV is terrible now and maduro is loving idiot monster. also lol at listing "fandoms" first
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get that OUT of my face posted:he's more of a peronist than a socialist, but if you say the right words and shibboleths every so often, those speak louder than actions. that's plenty of tankies are condemning riots over in venezuela when they'd be cheering them if it were, say, an action against police brutality in the US sorry, i took you the wrong way. i am just sick of tankies.
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get that OUT of my face posted:he's more of a peronist than a socialist, but if you say the right words and shibboleths every so often, those speak louder than actions. that's plenty of tankies are condemning riots over in venezuela when they'd be cheering them if it were, say, an action against police brutality in the US riots against a democratically elected socialist = riots against police brutality? 
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I'm the guy who thinks handing out weapons to crime gangs to act as extralegal security forces for a regime is totes cool and good.
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Byolante posted:I'm the guy who thinks handing out weapons to crime gangs to act as extralegal security forces for a regime is totes cool and good. Yeah yeah we all know how you feel about Honduras
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Byolante posted:I'm the guy who thinks handing out weapons to crime gangs to act as extralegal security forces for a regime is totes cool and good. but they wear red shirts so they must be good
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Badger of Basra posted:but they wear red shirts so they must be good Yeah and rather than de-baathify we can just wait for them all to fall in a volcano
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Badger of Basra posted:but they wear red shirts so they must be good I have it on good authority from a man who is totally not an insane sex pest that red is the best color and violently silencing any opposition is the only way to deal with counter revolutionaries
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got any sevens posted:riots against a democratically elected socialist you know jack poo poo about Venezuela
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call to action posted:Do these folks not know that Obama deported more people than any other president, or do they just not care?
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got any sevens posted:riots against a democratically elected socialist = riots against police brutality? lol if u can't riot against a leader, he is not democratic, fuckface
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steinrokkan posted:lol don't sign your posts
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steinrokkan posted:lol Could I just append this to say its ok at your riot to throw a chair through the front window of a bank, but not the chippy where I get my dinner
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lol at jill stein white knighting North Korea on a major news network
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ugh its Troika posted:lol at jill stein white knighting North Korea on a major news network seriously. doesnt surprise me much. she is tankie dipshit.
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ugh its Troika posted:lol at jill stein white knighting North Korea on a major news network I find myself frustrated with people who I am (idealogically speaking) aligned with, but disagree with them on things related to that manner. Matt Christman for example, was talking about how the collapse of the Soviet Union was a bad thing for the people there (Lower life expectancy, lower quality of living), and I just really couldn't disagree more. While perhaps statistically that may be true? The Soviet Union was a very flawed state, and the people their deserved greater freedoms. (The flip side? We deserve a higher life expectancy, higher quality of living) R.L. Stephens and others in the DSA are discussing the elimination of the police, jails. While I understand their perspective, again? Couldn't disagree more. (If the discussion is related to eliminating and then replacing them with a better run system? I think I'd be on board with that). I don't know if that makes me a bad lefty though. I feel on board with a great percentage of what they're about, but it feels like there's some rivers I just cannot cross. edit: It's not that I find these people "bad". Quite the opposite, I actually admire them, but there's just these bumps in the road I'm noticing. FuzzySkinner has issued a correction as of 21:35 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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When people* say the collapse of the Soviet Union was bad for Russian people, they don't mean the Soviet Union was good. They mean the wholesale dismantling of the country by gangsters and capitalists and con-men was bad. The collapse of the Soviet Union turned Russia into a hosed up oligarchy with one of the highest rates of inequality in the world. It's like, the Iraq War was bad for the Iraqi people. That doesn't mean that Saddam was good. *not counting tankies
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FuzzySkinner posted:I find myself frustrated with people who I am (idealogically speaking) aligned with, but disagree with them on things related to that manner. Some portions of the extreme left often run into the Ron Paul problem. You can listen to them for five minutes and agree with everything they say but after that you are in total crazytown.
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Guy Goodbody posted:When people* say the collapse of the Soviet Union was bad for Russian people, they don't mean the Soviet Union was good. They mean the wholesale dismantling of the country by gangsters and capitalists and con-men was bad. The collapse of the Soviet Union turned Russia into a hosed up oligarchy with one of the highest rates of inequality in the world. If the argument is that? I'm on loving board. Absolutely. That's something I'm opposed to here in the states and abroad. FuriousxGeorge posted:Some portions of the extreme left often run into the Ron Paul problem. You can listen to them for five minutes and agree with everything they say but after that you are in total crazytown. Well and I don't ever want to consider myself a "centrist" because that's not exactly the best thing in the current political climate. In theory? Perhaps I would be. But the political spectrum has been shifted to far right that the only options are Rockefeller Republican/Reagan Republican. So by default? I'm actually to the "far left" of most people with political power. I think for example protecting people's civil liberties, ensuring private property and having a bill of rights are cool/good things. But these types of things would likely put me at odds with people who I agree on quite a few economic matters on. So it's..kinda confusing in a lot of ways.
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. At least with the left you get the sense they care about somebody other than themselves most of the time, that is the central redeeming quality to me.
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Yeah, I'm in the same boat. At least with the left you get the sense they care about somebody other than themselves most of the time, that is the central redeeming quality to me. Who's "the left" in this sentence? Because with Democrats, I don't' get that feeling at all.
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My main concern with the currently direction of most of the left is the absolute belief that taking away personal freedoms from people who don't think right is a virtuous thing. Just yesterday a #resistance woke on twitter stepped up to tell Chelsea Manning if she didn't start supporting Kamala Harris for 2020 she should be sent back to jail for standing in the way of racial and sexual justice. It feels like I have fallen into the videoclip for take me to church with the sort of people leading the idpol left.
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Byolante posted:My main concern with the currently direction of most of the left is the absolute belief that taking away personal freedoms from people who don't think right is a virtuous thing. Just yesterday a #resistance woke on twitter stepped up to tell Chelsea Manning if she didn't start supporting Kamala Harris for 2020 she should be sent back to jail for standing in the way of racial and sexual justice. It feels like I have fallen into the videoclip for take me to church with the sort of people leading the idpol left. The new Inquisition is raring to go.
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Byolante posted:My main concern with the currently direction of most of the left is the absolute belief that taking away personal freedoms from people who don't think right is a virtuous thing. Just yesterday a #resistance woke on twitter stepped up to tell Chelsea Manning if she didn't start supporting Kamala Harris for 2020 she should be sent back to jail for standing in the way of racial and sexual justice. It feels like I have fallen into the videoclip for take me to church with the sort of people leading the idpol left. it's that kind of poo poo that's left me tired of the whole loving thing. and you can't say a goddamn word because then suddenly you love trump and want to melt transsexuals in acid. i'm sick of both goddamn sides of this poo poo. everybody's lost their goddamn minds and it feels like you can't listen to a single person because they demand you either dedicate yourself full maga or dedicate yourself full whatever the gently caress the democrats want.
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I don't think the #resistance is "left" I'm pretty sure it's the the millennial demographic campaign of the democratic party
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