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thechosenone
Mar 21, 2009

Magic Hate Ball posted:

Happy impeachment page!

What? I'm pretty sure the forums would have gone down if even a slight inkling of that were to have even been flashed from a window two blocks down.

oh wait I'm guessing your talking about a historical impeachment.

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Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
Nixon was impeached in 1974

second google image result for "dog impeached"

Burt Buckle
Sep 1, 2011

Casey Finnigan posted:

Nixon was impeached in 1974

50 years ago to the day if my math is right.

thechosenone
Mar 21, 2009
Yeah, I was trying to think about who it was (pretty embarrassing I admit). Highschool history doesn't go that far, and while I do probably know the general idea of things that happened I don't know the exact deets. Like I know Nixon resigned because he figured he would be removed from office, but I didn't realize they actually began the process of impeachment.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Another bit of relevant SA history- Helldump 2000, the forum for goon callouts and witch hunts. At first it seemed to be a force for good as it led to a purge of thinly veiled pedophiles from the forums and were one of the forces hunting down and eliminating the toxically libertarian, but they ran out of easy targets. They got all the pedophiles, bigots, paultards and at least one rapist, so they went after people with obnoxiously bad social skills, or who admitted to terrible hygiene, or who clearly suffered from untreated mental illness. Then just whoever a critical mass of goons hated that week. Then each other. It was put out of its misery around the same time LF was.

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



thechosenone posted:

Yeah, I was trying to think about who it was (pretty embarrassing I admit). Highschool history doesn't go that far, and while I do probably know the general idea of things that happened I don't know the exact deets. Like I know Nixon resigned because he figured he would be removed from office, but I didn't realize they actually began the process of impeachment.

In high school I barely made it to the 1920's by the end and to the depression. No talk of WW1 or WW2. Expansive topics to be sure. No talks about really anything beyond that. I learned about that history much later, or in snippets when we talked about stuff like the Crucible in English class and would get a minor history lesson in the bargain. I remember my brother talked about how his history teacher blazed through modern history on purpose so he could talk to his kids about Vietnam and really focus down on it since it was a favorite subject of his teacher's.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Ice Phisherman posted:

In high school I barely made it to the 1920's by the end and to the depression. No talk of WW1 or WW2. Expansive topics to be sure. No talks about really anything beyond that. I learned about that history much later, or in snippets when we talked about stuff like the Crucible in English class and would get a minor history lesson in the bargain. I remember my brother talked about how his history teacher blazed through modern history on purpose so he could talk to his kids about Vietnam and really focus down on it since it was a favorite subject of his teacher's.

Your education system is really depressing at times. I can only imagine how much worse its going to be after DeVos too. :cry:

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



haveblue posted:

Another bit of relevant SA history- Helldump 2000, the forum for goon callouts and witch hunts. At first it seemed to be a force for good as it led to a purge of thinly veiled pedophiles from the forums and were one of the forces hunting down and eliminating the toxically libertarian, but they ran out of easy targets. They got all the pedophiles, bigots, paultards and at least one rapist, so they went after people with obnoxiously bad social skills, or who admitted to terrible hygiene, or who clearly suffered from untreated mental illness. Then just whoever a critical mass of goons hated that week. Then each other. It was put out of its misery around the same time LF was.

KiwiFarms is basically the modern Helldump but worse and more bigoted.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
Who is penning the Amazon self publishing Something Awful History Parts i-vi

Moatman
Mar 21, 2014

Because the goof is all mine.

GreyjoyBastard posted:

I am genuinely curious how much Chuck Tingle makes from his art annually.

Not nearly enough

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Boris Galerkin posted:

Holy poo poo you are loving dumb. Did you even read the drat tweet before posting this or was 140 characters too much for you?

lmao holy poo poo you got really mad about me making a dumb mistake because I'm an idiot

Petr
Oct 3, 2000

haveblue posted:

Another bit of relevant SA history- Helldump 2000, the forum for goon callouts and witch hunts. At first it seemed to be a force for good as it led to a purge of thinly veiled pedophiles from the forums and were one of the forces hunting down and eliminating the toxically libertarian, but they ran out of easy targets. They got all the pedophiles, bigots, paultards and at least one rapist, so they went after people with obnoxiously bad social skills, or who admitted to terrible hygiene, or who clearly suffered from untreated mental illness. Then just whoever a critical mass of goons hated that week. Then each other. It was put out of its misery around the same time LF was.

Honestly, I doubt it was ever a force for good. Usually, most of the chan-types who join up for pedo witch-hunts are pedos themselves, just better at hiding it.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Seems like "actually, he's a Republican hack" would undercut this whole conflict of interest argument, no?

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/891444244619120644

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Seems like "actually, he's a Republican hack" would undercut this whole conflict of interest argument, no?

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/891444244619120644

only if you were concerned about intellectual consistency

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Seems like "actually, he's a Republican hack" would undercut this whole conflict of interest argument, no?

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/891444244619120644

I think this attack would be to get support from the dumber Bernie Bros, like a Jill Stein

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

haveblue posted:

Another bit of relevant SA history- Helldump 2000, the forum for goon callouts and witch hunts. At first it seemed to be a force for good as it led to a purge of thinly veiled pedophiles from the forums and were one of the forces hunting down and eliminating the toxically libertarian, but they ran out of easy targets. They got all the pedophiles, bigots, paultards and at least one rapist, so they went after people with obnoxiously bad social skills, or who admitted to terrible hygiene, or who clearly suffered from untreated mental illness. Then just whoever a critical mass of goons hated that week. Then each other. It was put out of its misery around the same time LF was.

I actually got a private message at one point from an account whose entire purpose was to notify people via PM that there was a helldump thread about them and that they should look at it. I did not do that, but it sort of made me proud that someone cared enough to make a whole thread about lil' ol me :shobon:

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Helldump was funny when it was turning up things like the Kuuenbu meltdown, but eventually they were just aggressively doxxing people for liking anime.

Xae
Jan 19, 2005

Hollismason posted:

The main reason SA moved to the left was that the demographic changed not because of LF people grew older and became more educated as that happened people moved further left.

Dog pilling everyone who wasn't/isn't left or "far enough" left sure as hell helped too.

It is a bit of a hagiography to claim it was all ascendant ideology or maturity. Good ole fashioned circle jerking had a huge part in it.

Xae fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Aug 2, 2017

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

pillsburysoldier posted:

I think this attack would be to get support from the dumber Bernie Bros, like a Jill Stein

Ahh the crowd that can go gently caress themselves.

Noctone
Oct 25, 2005

XO til we overdose..
I always thought a big part of the leftist shift was the economy cratering in 08 or so. Lot harder to be libertarian or conservative when you suddenly find your on the short end of the capitalism stick. That and people getting older and actually seeing capitalism in action.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

The 2008/2012 toxxes helped thin the herd too.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Chuck Tingle is interesting because on one hand he could be a person who struggles daily with mental illness or he's a persona created by someone who pretends to be someone who is suffering from crippling mental illness for purposes of satire. Both are kind of depressing when you really think about it.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

It's really hard to find a conservative/right-ist circle jerk that's made any sense in the past like 15 years.

Even Trump's election win seemed full of self-hating spite. The only consistent thread was the Supreme Court Justice, and even that didn't seem to be readily defensed when people were asked how it helped them

pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Aug 2, 2017

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Xae posted:

Good ole fashioned circle jerking had a huge part in it.

You're absolutely correct.

I came though, so I really have no complaints.

Two Inch Bee
Apr 17, 2003
Damn you, Lyle, and damn your style.

Blitz7x posted:

Who is penning the Amazon self publishing Something Awful History Parts i-vi

I just submitted "Pounded In The Butt By A Thorough Oral History of The Something Awful Forums" to Amazon. Should be available in a couple days. $2.99 or free with Kindle Unlimited.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Trabisnikof posted:

The 2008/2012 toxxes helped thin the herd too.

On the other hand, how many did we lose with the 2016 permatoxxes?

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

pillsburysoldier posted:

It's really hard to find a conservative/right-ist circle jerk that's made any sense in the past like 15 years.

Even Trump's election win seemed full of self-hating spite. The only consistent thread was the Supreme Court Justice, and even that didn't seem to be readily defensed when people were asked how it helped them

Sometimes it seems America needs a periodic reminder of how bad Republicans gently caress things up when they're in charge. When I realized that, I started to understand accelerationists. I'm not one, but I understand it. I think Joni Mitchell's "Don't know what you've got 'til it's gone" lyrics are going to become very relevant in the coming years as things people take for granted are going to come under assault. I mean imagine if like, libraries just disappeared.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



It's truly amazing to me that a spreadsheets MMO from Iceland is such an indispensable part of this community's history. Like you cannot tell a history of SA without having to go into EVE politics at least a little.

Petr
Oct 3, 2000

Lightning Lord posted:

Sometimes it seems America needs a periodic reminder of how bad Republicans gently caress things up when they're in charge. When I realized that, I started to understand accelerationists. I'm not one, but I understand it. I think Joni Mitchell's "Don't know what you've got 'til it's gone" lyrics are going to become very relevant in the coming years as things people take for granted are going to come under assault. I mean imagine if like, libraries just disappeared.

Where would hobos jerk off to Internet porn?

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007

ty slumfrog :)

Petr posted:

Honestly, I doubt it was ever a force for good. Usually, most of the chan-types who join up for pedo witch-hunts are pedos themselves, just better at hiding it.

I think this as well, in the "it weeded out the weak" kind of way. This taught those who weren't caught and who were smart how to not be caught. On the other hand, some of the threads are hilarious. C'est la vie.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

Mister Adequate posted:

It's truly amazing to me that a spreadsheets MMO from Iceland is such an indispensable part of this community's history. Like you cannot tell a history of SA without having to go into EVE politics at least a little.

well, here's a history of SA that doesnt mention eve afaics
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nzg4yw/gently caress-you-and-die-an-oral-history-of-something-awful

Quabzor
Oct 17, 2010

My whole life just flashed before my eyes! Dude, I sleep a lot.

Mister Adequate posted:

It's truly amazing to me that a spreadsheets MMO from Iceland is such an indispensable part of this community's history. Like you cannot tell a history of SA without having to go into EVE politics at least a little.

And it's not even the only online game that SA has turned on its head. Far less so than Eve, but Urban Dead is a pseudo-text based zombie game. Some SA guys recruit here and coordinate zombie hoards to just stomp little text based towns into rubble.



What other online games have goons changed ruined?

Quabzor fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Aug 2, 2017

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Quabzor posted:

And it's not even the only online game that SA has turned on its head. Far less so than Eve, but Urban Dead is a pseudo-text based zombie game. Some SA guys recruit here and coordinate zombie hoards to just stomp little text based towns into rubble.



What other online games have goons changed ruined?

Star Citizen

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Mister Adequate posted:

It's truly amazing to me that a spreadsheets MMO from Iceland is such an indispensable part of this community's history. Like you cannot tell a history of SA without having to go into EVE politics at least a little.

Surprised there hasn't been some study on "Why libertarianism does not work" based entirely off of Eve drama.

Chapter 3: "How making fun of someone's dead family can start a multi-year war"

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

Blitz7x posted:

Who is penning the Amazon self publishing Something Awful History Parts i-vi
Honestly tempted. Something Awful's history spans a good chunk of the internet's time as a publically available thing, and focusing on SA instead of some sort of "A History of Internet Culture" would give the work more definition and some opportunities for tangents. Plus, thanks to the archives both on-site and off-site, it's one of the better-preserved forums online.

It'd make for a good master's thesis for someone, at least.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Petr posted:

Where would hobos jerk off to Internet porn?

I dunno, you tell me :agesilaus:

But seriously, don't tell me libraries aren't taken for granted by just about everyone, but when anti-tax types get their wishes granted, they're one of the first things that start getting cut. Then the suburban moms that got bilked start getting mad. It's one of the "I didn't mean that!" things like when Trumpsters object to ICE deporting people who entered illegally 30 years ago who became pillars of their community.

Like gently caress, Glenn Beck once made a keynote speech to CPAC where he shat on the Progressive era and explained how he learned to hate it by educating himself through going to the library, which is free. That tells me all I know about how people expect libraries to just be there.


Self-ruination doesn't count

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Lightning Lord posted:

Sometimes it seems America needs a periodic reminder of how bad Republicans gently caress things up when they're in charge. When I realized that, I started to understand accelerationists. I'm not one, but I understand it. I think Joni Mitchell's "Don't know what you've got 'til it's gone" lyrics are going to become very relevant in the coming years as things people take for granted are going to come under assault. I mean imagine if like, libraries just disappeared.

To the GOP, liberalism/progressivism must be prevented at all costs from having an uninterrupted 16 year period of control (and not just of the executive branch). 16 years is enough time that a child born the day the first of two consecutive two term progressive presidents (ideally with a ideologially-cooperative legislative branch - something we'll never have again) is inaugurated spends their entire formative learning years educated in a system that isn't *always* trying to profit off of them at every single turn. It's also a period of time where the parents of said child aren't beset with fear on how they'll afford to raise him or her, or have to kill themselves to give them a fighting chance at independence when they reach adulthood. Sixteen years is a long enough period that "the new normal" can become just "normal," and normality is a very powerful social influence that can cost rich people a lot of money - like it used to be *normal* for the rich to have a high tax rate, but two terms of Nixon, one of Ford, and two of Reagan (yes, I'm snipping out Carter's term, like revisionist American history has) lionized Laffer Curve trickle-down economics.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Aug 2, 2017

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Quabzor posted:

And it's not even the only online game that SA has turned on its head. Far less so than Eve, but Urban Dead is a pseudo-text based zombie game. Some SA guys recruit here and coordinate zombie hoards to just stomp little text based towns into rubble.



What other online games have goons changed ruined?

Habbo Hotel

:geno:

ought ten
Feb 6, 2004


In Finland recently I saw an exhibit celebrating 100 years of Finnish innovation and they had all kinds of cool things like Nokia phones and some Alvar Aalto stuff and crazy woodcutting machines and then there was Habbo Hotel and it all came flooding back. :finland:

Sorry Finland. I meant no disrespect.

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Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Tom Clancy is Dead posted:

I brought up the wikileaks partisan hackery thing because they decide to post this today

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/892510925244203008

and I had to explain to a friend what fucks they are.

Keep in mind when you listen to this Hersh told NPR the following:

quote:

And Butowsky lays out a different mission than aiding the Rich family. Butowsky says he became convinced that the FBI had a report concluding that Seth Rich's laptop showed he had had contacts with WikiLeaks after speaking to the legendary reporter Seymour Hersh, who was also investigating Rich's death. According to the transcripts in the lawsuit, Butowsky says Hersh had an FBI source who confirmed the report.

In an interview this week, Hersh sounds unconvinced.

"I hear gossip," Hersh tells NPR on Monday. "[Butowsky] took two and two and made 45 out of it."

For "gossip" Hersh is giving a pretty detailed and specific version of events without any caveats. This is just like much of his work in the last few years, spreading poorly sourced stories his mates tell him.

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Aug 2, 2017

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