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Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
Hooray it's the Great Man theory of history, but also genetic determinism!

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Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Listen, smart people are never also crooks. The only source of problems in the system is dumb people.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Goon Danton posted:

And naturally, the way to give someone an unfair advantage in being good at economics is magic gene therapy, rather than giving them a good education. Gotta go with the example that sounds technoutopian and also subtly implies that merit is genetic.

scott is so goddamned confident that we know or that we will know the entire genetic basis for cognitive traits to the point where he doesn't really question it. it's really is a position that can only be borne out of ignorance of the field, and of reality in general.

but regardless i like his from-first-principles argument for elitism. because if you don't question the fact that gene therapy of the kind he dreams about is a sci-fi fantasy, then you can hope that in the future the elites will turn out some supergenius genetically enhanced babies who'll be our only chance for actually good administration of the country.

but scott hasn't been influenced by neoreactionaries one bit, and that's not the reason he's basically saying some of the same poo poo nick land would say. though it's nice to note that scott and land are equally ignorant of genetics, it seems.

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

Anil Dasharez0ne posted:

You're trying to pull the irony defense in this of all threads?
how could I have known I accidentally wasn't being ironic but 100% spot on. "don't take things out of context to attack them in the most literal way" > proceeds to take things out of context to attack them in the most literal way, over and over and over until accidentally falling rear end backwards into moral superiority, claims victory

divabot posted:

and yet, despite my hard work in the cause, I'm still less of a horrible shithead than you. Also I know better than to read Sam Kriss.
and here another rhetoric giant folds like a card table under the slightest lack of fawning adoration. Sam Kriss must really hurt if you have gambled everything on winning through the most and best facts (alternatively). I guess the best the rest of us can hope for - should we be so lucky - is that Dark Enlightenment and internet rationalists mutually destroy each other

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Fututor Magnus posted:

but scott hasn't been influenced by neoreactionaries one bit, and that's not the reason he's basically saying some of the same poo poo nick land would say. though it's nice to note that scott and land are equally ignorant of genetics, it seems.

Someone ship Scott a boxcar full of amphetamines, let's see how deep this rabbit hole goes.

Puppy Time posted:

Listen, smart people are never also crooks. The only source of problems in the system is dumb people.

Not only does "smart but malicious" not occur to him, there's also the looming nightmare combo of "smart but wrong," which would probably send these guys into a Lovecraftian madness if they seriously contemplated it.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

hackbunny posted:

how could I have known I accidentally wasn't being ironic but 100% spot on. "don't take things out of context to attack them in the most literal way" > proceeds to take things out of context to attack them in the most literal way, over and over and over until accidentally falling rear end backwards into moral superiority, claims victory
and here another rhetoric giant folds like a card table under the slightest lack of fawning adoration. Sam Kriss must really hurt if you have gambled everything on winning through the most and best facts (alternatively). I guess the best the rest of us can hope for - should we be so lucky - is that Dark Enlightenment and internet rationalists mutually destroy each other



Peel
Dec 3, 2007

hackbunny posted:

how could I have known I accidentally wasn't being ironic but 100% spot on. "don't take things out of context to attack them in the most literal way" > proceeds to take things out of context to attack them in the most literal way, over and over and over until accidentally falling rear end backwards into moral superiority, claims victory
and here another rhetoric giant folds like a card table under the slightest lack of fawning adoration. Sam Kriss must really hurt if you have gambled everything on winning through the most and best facts (alternatively). I guess the best the rest of us can hope for - should we be so lucky - is that Dark Enlightenment and internet rationalists mutually destroy each other

hello, sam kriss fan here: please shut up

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Contra is a good opinions haver.

https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/891712148560375809

:vince:

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

hackbunny posted:

how could I have known I accidentally wasn't being ironic but 100% spot on. "don't take things out of context to attack them in the most literal way" > proceeds to take things out of context to attack them in the most literal way, over and over and over until accidentally falling rear end backwards into moral superiority, claims victory
and here another rhetoric giant folds like a card table under the slightest lack of fawning adoration. Sam Kriss must really hurt if you have gambled everything on winning through the most and best facts (alternatively). I guess the best the rest of us can hope for - should we be so lucky - is that Dark Enlightenment and internet rationalists mutually destroy each other

I do agree you weren't being inronic, just a shithead who hides behind irony.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Camgirl is a more honest profession that youtuber frankly

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

CharlestheHammer posted:

I do agree you weren't being inronic, just a shithead who hides behind irony.

got lost on the way to the world's best dead gay leftist forum SomethingSamkrisstive

The Time Dissolver
Nov 7, 2012

Are you a good person?

This tweet was too mean to camgirls for the tastes of Contra's fans and she apologized, too profusely IMO. Like I partake in sexy poo poo online almost every day but spare me this attitude that prostitution and pornography aren't even vices.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

The Time Dissolver posted:

This tweet was too mean to camgirls for the tastes of Contra's fans and she apologized, too profusely IMO. Like I partake in sexy poo poo online almost every day but spare me this attitude that prostitution and pornography aren't even vices.

https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/891894228409868288

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

The Time Dissolver posted:

This tweet was too mean to camgirls for the tastes of Contra's fans and she apologized, too profusely IMO. Like I partake in sexy poo poo online almost every day but spare me this attitude that prostitution and pornography aren't even vices.

The mass media would like you to think that an outgoing personality is normal; celebrity psychotherapists would like you to believe that there is something seriously wrong with you if you aren’t naturally gregarious. However, promoting extroversion is more a strategy for concentrating population into urban conglomerations, rather than anything to do with innate human psychology. In contrast, an anti-social disposition is always more authentic; an asocial bastard is always more genuine.

The liberal elitists want everyone to be extroverted – simply because a friendly person is easier to control. A sociable citizen is more easily socialized. Pleasant personalities are for peasants. Reserved personas are just a bit too rebellious.

If you want to defend your independence, then you need to become a bit more reticent. It is high time that you tried to make your temperament a bit more introverted. There are a number of steps that will make you more unsociable. Here are a few tips to make you much more timid.

Never greet anyone. There is scarcely a stranger in the world that is worth the effort of saying “hello.” Never smile to strangers, but maintain a grimace of polite disdain. If you can successfully ignore other people, then you have gained a victory over them. Other human beings are like potholes in the road of life – nuisances that you must swerve around if you want to reach your destination.

No matter what somebody might ask of you, the first word out of your mouth should always be “NO.” Trust me, no one is ever going to offer you anything of value; if someone ever asks a question of you, they are only trying to get something from you. It doesn’t matter what someone might want; you had better make that flat-out refusal obvious from the start.

If you ever have to say something to another person, make certain that the statement is negative no matter what. In a culture where the authorities want you to be always positive, you can repel annoying interlopers by asserting something intensely disagreeable. If your comment is discouraging enough, the busy-bodies might just leave you alone.

If you can’t think of anything unkind to say, then shut the gently caress up. There is a reason why do-gooders exchange pleasantries – to affirm their ties to the community. If you want to cut your shackles to the community, the first thing that you must do is cuss-out the communitarians.

Never reveal anything personal about yourself. The more that strangers know about you, the more leverage they have against you. If you are in one of those odd situations in which you must say something about your past, make-up some vague generality that could apply to anyone. If you let something slip about your past, it will only be used against you. Keep your private life private.

I wish that existence didn’t have to be this way. But we live in a society where the government obliges you to have a social-security number and obligates you to pay an income tax – just so that some neighbor can live off your resources. The only way to remain an individualist is to fight back – on the everyday level. If you are born into a country where you are forced to contribute toward the welfare of other citizens, then the only way to maintain your dignity is to make those same citizens feel wretched. The reason why so many Westerners think that other taxpayers ought to contribute toward their healthcare is because other people have been too nice to them far to long.

It is about time to fight-back by being unfriendly. It is not global wars that eliminate cultures, but only through resisting the small social interactions in daily life can this tyrannical altruism ultimately be eradicated. One well-timed insult can weaken the community more than some random explosion in a shopping mall. Making other residents feel uncomfortable in the public sphere will do more to weaken bureaucratic oppression than any armed campaign.

If I have made someone feel bad, then I feel that I have accomplished something for the day. If I have hurt someone’s feelings, then I have done something of consequence. If I have destroyed someone’s faith, then I have truly achieved something. If I have made another person miserable, then I have done my civic duty, thank you.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/07/29/against-signal-boosting-as-doxxing/

another great pearl-clutching scottpost on the evils of twitter feminists

...or wait, no. the twitter person is not an evil feminist in this case because they're libertarian (and thus grey tribe) and thus deserve the gentlest criticism possible.

Fututor Magnus has a new favorite as of 18:01 on Aug 1, 2017

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Uh, what?

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

wesley.jpg

Syd Midnight
Sep 23, 2005

The Vosgian Beast posted:

....If I have made someone feel bad, then I feel that I have accomplished something for the day. If I have hurt someone’s feelings, then I have done something of consequence. If I have destroyed someone’s faith, then I have truly achieved something. If I have made another person miserable, then I have done my civic duty, thank you.

This is the anti-Desiderata.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

The Vosgian Beast posted:


If I have made someone feel bad, then I feel that I have accomplished something for the day. If I have hurt someone’s feelings, then I have done something of consequence. If I have destroyed someone’s faith, then I have truly achieved something. If I have made another person miserable, then I have done my civic duty, thank you.

Huh, someone's my polar opposite. If we touched, would we both disappear in a flash of light?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Avenging_Mikon posted:

Huh, someone's my polar opposite. If we touched, would we both disappear in a flash of light?

Mister Mean-Spirited's entire blogging career is based on just insisting the opposite of whatever a relatively okay person would believe is true.

He's the Armond White of life advice

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Dude is literally a Care Bears villain what the hell

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Puppy Time posted:

Dude is literally a Care Bears villain what the hell

The comments sections are worth reading, because they're invariably full of dweebs who think he's the second coming of H. L. Mencken

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Puppy Time posted:

Dude is literally a Care Bears villain what the hell

It's the inevitable endgame of the edgier-than-thou mentality. It's like he watched the Big Lebowski to figure out how to outdo the "ironic" Nazis.

Sax Solo
Feb 18, 2011



Fututor Magnus posted:

http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/07/29/against-signal-boosting-as-doxxing/

another great pearl-clutching scottpost on the evils of twitter feminists

...or wait, no. the twitter person is not an evil feminist in this case because they're libertarian (and thus grey tribe) and thus deserve the gentlest criticism possible.

Scott: I am very pro free speech.

Woman: *uses free speech to shame a sexist man*

Scott: I have now realized there is an illegitimate form of free speech.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
i just came across these absolutely terrible discussions on scott's tumblr

https://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/163736220621/jadagul-slatestarscratchpad-jadagul

https://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/163735408921/balioc-togglesbloggle-asked-where-on-that

I'd say more about them, but just...ugh. i'm fine with bringing them to the thread's attention for now

e: those discussions might be in regards to this recent scottpost, which jesus christ, looks pretty loving terrible.

Fututor Magnus has a new favorite as of 04:22 on Aug 3, 2017

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Fututor Magnus posted:

i just came across these absolutely terrible discussions on scott's tumblr

https://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/163736220621/jadagul-slatestarscratchpad-jadagul

https://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/163735408921/balioc-togglesbloggle-asked-where-on-that

I'd say more about them, but just...ugh. i'm fine with bringing them to the thread's attention for now

e: those discussions might be in regards to this recent scottpost, which looks pretty loving terrible as usual

Oh poo poo did he just admit Donald Trump is sexist? Can't wait til an evil prog feminist says the same thing and he throws a temper tantrum

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Oh poo poo did he just admit Donald Trump is sexist? Can't wait til an evil prog feminist says the same thing and he throws a temper tantrum

well, poo poo. i guess that's as close as scott will get towards acknowledging that. not that he gives a poo poo, here he is saying that he's as worried about trump supporters as he is of crystal healers.

and scott's reducing of "humanities" and "STEM" as essentially different groups who think differently inherently is incredibly stupid, especially his characterization of STEM thinking as autistic in nature.

the reductionism and strawmanning of "the humanities" in general in that discussion is deeply, deeply irritating. for painting themselves as the rational factual people in opposition to the humanities that's obsessed with feelings and emotion, they really don't have any evidence for any of this outside of their feelings.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless



one really can't be surprised as to how big a loser wesley is when this is how he thinks of his life

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Fututor Magnus posted:



one really can't be surprised as to how big a loser wesley is when this is how he thinks of his life

I'm the failed attempt at writing an ſ in MSPaint.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/893087995779264513
https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/892901148411260928
https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/892901829834670080
https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/892903235744403457

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

WELL, ACTUALLY, he's right that attacking people for knowing things is dumb (and it is something I see occasionally in other situations). Though the self-righteous tone is excessive, especially since we have other evidence that Bannon is racist, like his running a racist rag. Plus the HOW DARE YOU KNOW THINGS gambit comes from all over the political spectrum and comes up in non-political contexts as well.

Silver2195 has a new favorite as of 00:34 on Aug 4, 2017

Sax Solo
Feb 18, 2011



Knowing poo poo doesn't mean you know how to participate in a conversation intelligently and constructively, e.g. Neil deGrasse Tyson.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Hey Rev, since you clearly still read this thread and we're speaking of knowing things, how did you not know the far-right candidate with a gay conversion therapy enthusiast as a running mate was going to have anti-LGBT policies?

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/796388921735135232

Oligopsony
May 17, 2007

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I'm the failed attempt at writing an ſ in MSPaint.

Well, actually, that's a long s, which is being used to ironically self-distance from the message (because we're all irony boys)

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Oligopsony posted:

Well, actually, that's a long s, which is being used to ironically self-distance from the message (because we're all irony boys)

An ſ is a long s.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


The Vosgian Beast posted:

Hey Rev, since you clearly still read this thread and we're speaking of knowing things, how did you not know the far-right candidate with a gay conversion therapy enthusiast as a running mate was going to have anti-LGBT policies?

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/796388921735135232

Well you see if Hillary were elected, the gays would all be thrown into volcanoes as sacrifices to the hungry Mole God.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Hey Rev, since you clearly still read this thread and we're speaking of knowing things, how did you not know the far-right candidate with a gay conversion therapy enthusiast as a running mate was going to have anti-LGBT policies?

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/796388921735135232

I know you love bringing that thing up but I don't think you're ever going to get anywhere with it, if Rev were capable of actual self-reflection he'd have spontaneously collapsed into himself like a black hole by now

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

ate all the Oreos posted:

I know you love bringing that thing up but I don't think you're ever going to get anywhere with it, if Rev were capable of actual self-reflection he'd have spontaneously collapsed into himself like a black hole by now

That's probably correct

Not sure he can physically perceive it, honestly

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Emrikol
Oct 1, 2015

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I'm the failed attempt at writing an ſ in MSPaint.

That's how it looks in the font they used.

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