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Condoning drug use in sports is tantamount to requiring it for success. If it is an explicit necessity to use, not only will everyone use, but people will be obliged to push the amount they use as much as possible, well passed safe limits. People will start using younger, and will start dying more often. No one at the highest level will pull back from the brink if they think it will make the difference between 5th or 6th, and a podium finish.
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TheMaskedUgly posted:Condoning drug use in sports is tantamount to requiring it for success. If it is an explicit necessity to use, not only will everyone use, but people will be obliged to push the amount they use as much as possible, well passed safe limits. People will start using younger, and will start dying more often. No one at the highest level will pull back from the brink if they think it will make the difference between 5th or 6th, and a podium finish. I honestly can't wait for the bionics issue to really come into play.
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Could you have mixed fights in MMA or boxing? I feel like that might be controversial but I'm not sure.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Could you have mixed fights in MMA or boxing? I feel like that might be controversial but I'm not sure. You could, but you shouldn't unless you want to kill people.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:05
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as long as you stick to weight classes it would probably be okay
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Aug 1, 2017 23:20
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As Ronda Rousey has said when asked about fighting men, it's a really bad look to have a crowd of people cheering while a man beats on a woman, even if it's a competition.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:23
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Fair enough, that didn't occur to me.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:42
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There's a huge difference in physical strength between men and women even across the same weightclass. Talent and ability can outdo power and speed but within limits. Fencing is a good example where plenty of the top women have superior technique to their male counterparts but would still lose out to the power and speed difference. By merging them into one group you'd lose out on a lot of great athletes.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:54
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Classic fencing response
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Aug 2, 2017 00:08
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oldpainless posted:Classic fencing response Now that's how you catchphrase!
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Mu Zeta posted:Also legalize steroids for athletes under medical supervision. The movie stars do it already and kids look up to them. I guarantee Ben Affleck took them to bulk up for Batman. Stop pretending sports people are heroes for children and instead let's find out how far we can push our bodies through hardcore science. yeah I eat rear end posted:Anyway the system is fine as it is (for most sports - maybe it'd work in something like tennis but who cares about tennis). All you'd do by making just one league is keep 99.9% of women out of professional sports. There's clearly a market for them (albeit not as large) at least in basketball and sports like that, so why get rid of them so the tiny handful (if any) that would be qualified could play in the NBA? Also, you could always make the top level competition open to the best regardless of gender while still having separate mens and womens competitions as well. TheMaskedUgly posted:Condoning drug use in sports is tantamount to requiring it for success. If it is an explicit necessity to use, not only will everyone use, but people will be obliged to push the amount they use as much as possible, well passed safe limits. People will start using younger, and will start dying more often. No one at the highest level will pull back from the brink if they think it will make the difference between 5th or 6th, and a podium finish.
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Tiggum posted:
Not that you're wrong but that's still worlds different from out and out condoning it.
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Tiggum posted:So what is the argument for not having men and women compete in tennis? quote:Another event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open[51] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the world's top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager".[52][53] The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park,[54] after Braasch had finished a round of golf and two beers. He first took on Serena and after leading 5–0, beat her 6–1. Venus then walked on court and again Braasch was victorious, this time winning 6–2.[55] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun".[56] Braasch said the big difference was that men can chase down shots much easier, and that men put spin on the ball that the women can't handle. The Williams sisters adjusted their claim to beating men outside the top 350.
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Aug 2, 2017 05:58
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Make an enhanced league and a non-enhanced league, and if you're caught doping in the non-enhanced league all your medals are confiscated, all your records stricken, and you receive a lifetime ban from all professional sports and may no longer receive any income in relation to the sport.
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Aug 2, 2017 06:12
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Making it so that the only way you can succeed in sports is to take damaging drugs is actually kind of hosed
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Saagonsa posted:Making it so that the only way you can succeed in sports is to take damaging drugs is actually kind of hosed Can't be a sumo wrestler without being morbidly obese, so...
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Aug 2, 2017 06:46
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fruit on the bottom posted:Make an enhanced league and a non-enhanced league, and if you're caught doping in the non-enhanced league all your medals are confiscated, all your records stricken, and you receive a lifetime ban from all professional sports and may no longer receive any income in relation to the sport. Bodybuilding has tested and non-tested events. They're still all juicing. Saagonsa posted:Making it so that the only way you can succeed in sports is to take damaging drugs is actually kind of hosed Damaging long term, super-amazing short term. People do worse to themselves without the lure of money and fame and beating the other guys.
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"People have done worse" is the worst argument possible. Former East German athletes have been committing suicide and dying in agony en masse for years now that their substance abuse caught up with them. And it is made worse by the fact they didn't even have a choice, they either took the dope, or they were prevented from competing. No reason to believe matters would be less coerced nowadays, in a different country with equally "liberal" attitudes.
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Also if you are OK with watching people kill themselves for your entertainment, you are an actual monster, plain and simple.
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Up until this last century, murder as a spectator sport had been a choice social event for thousands of years. It's the prostitute of entertainment.
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And people were OK with slavery or hanging people for stealing bread. Doesn't make those things fine either.
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steinrokkan posted:And people were OK with slavery or hanging people for stealing bread. Doesn't make those things fine either. A multitude of people still are.
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Aug 2, 2017 10:21
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I wasn't saying it did, I just wanted to use that last sentence real bad.
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Jerry Cotton posted:A multitude of people still are. Don't look at me. I pay my employees a (slave's) wages.
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Aug 2, 2017 10:41
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Potatoes taste like crap
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Aug 2, 2017 13:04
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They are the Apple of the Earth, you watch your God damned mouth.
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Aug 2, 2017 13:25
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Potatopinion: mashed potatoes are better with the skin left on. I wish more restaurants did it that way. Also waffle fry is the superior form of fry.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Potatopinion: mashed potatoes are better with the skin left on. I wish more restaurants did it that way. You're good people, yeah I eat rear end.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Potatopinion: mashed potatoes are better with the skin left on. I wish more restaurants did it that way. Baked potatoes are better done in the microwave than an oven.
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Sunswipe posted:Baked potatoes are better done in the microwave than an oven. Perhaps the most wrong opinion ever posted ITT. Enjoy your slimy soggy skin I guess.
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sassassin posted:Bodybuilding has tested and non-tested events. They're still all juicing. What are the consequences for getting caught? Cuz I'm thinking zero tolerance, no appeal, totally blacklisted, and retroactively erased in the records. As if you were never competing to begin with.
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fruit on the bottom posted:What are the consequences for getting caught? Cuz I'm thinking zero tolerance, no appeal, totally blacklisted, and retroactively erased in the records. As if you were never competing to begin with. Isn't that proving to be a problem in cycling? Sure I heard that they've got years worth of Tour de France that now have no winner because they can't tell if anyone competing was clean.
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I think Crossfit has loose standards when it comes to drug testing, but then again they encourage people to snap their backs by lifting barbells 200 times in a row.
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Sunswipe posted:Isn't that proving to be a problem in cycling? Sure I heard that they've got years worth of Tour de France that now have no winner because they can't tell if anyone competing was clean. See I want more of this. I like this.
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steinrokkan posted:Also if you are OK with watching people kill themselves for your entertainment, you are an actual monster, plain and simple. What profession does not boil down to slowly killing yourself to get ahead?
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starkebn posted:as long as you stick to weight classes it would probably be okay What? No dude. A 115lb male wrestler against a female wrestler of the same weight would utterly destroy her
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Aug 3, 2017 10:08
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Jesus was probably: a) black b) communist c) gay d) arab e) a mix of all above
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Now I don't feel bad for ignoring his teachings.
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im c
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well why not posted:Jesus was probably: Let's be honest: he also probably smelled like everyone did back then. I don't really imagine Jesus putting on deoderant
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