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Oh and that edict is for legal immigration. So if you legally immigrate to US but do not speak english, you are hosed
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Aug 2, 2017 18:03
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The president would be denied a green card according to these criteria.
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Unzip and Attack posted:No. Something can't be "ruined" and "the best it's ever been" simultaneously. Words have meaning. You and your outdated 'Last Sentence' thinking. We live in the current sentence now.
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Aug 2, 2017 18:04
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Jesus christ the goal remains reducing legal immigration to the United States by 50%.
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Aug 2, 2017 18:05
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What the hell? Are we full up? That's some pure xenophobe chow.
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Aug 2, 2017 18:07
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No the idea is now to make the middle class all immigrants and then bam we can say we saved the middle class!
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Poll update: https://twitter.com/CahnEmily/status/892793503792672771 https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/892793505726308352
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how is this any different from the status quo or are we just supposed to pretend trump has original ideas instead of just rebranding other people's lovely products
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Is the impeachment efforts making any real progress? Last I read some Democrats were drafting a proposal for impeachment to take effect after he finishes his term(s) as president.
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boner confessor posted:how is this any different from the status quo or are we just supposed to pretend trump has original ideas instead of just rebranding other people's lovely products The bill from Cotton and Perdue, known as the RAISE Act, would end the practice of prioritizing green cards for adult children and extended family of people already in the U.S., discontinue an immigration lottery program and limit the number of refugees to be accepted into the U.S. to only 50,000.
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DaveWoo posted:Poll update: That's a spicy meatball. Rasmussen is -5 on 538.
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boner confessor posted:how is this any different from the status quo or are we just supposed to pretend trump has original ideas instead of just rebranding other people's lovely products It's going to drastically reduce green cards to family members.
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boner confessor posted:how is this any different from the status quo or are we just supposed to pretend trump has original ideas instead of just rebranding other people's lovely products It's different from the status quo in that it's raising the required so fewer English-Speaking, self-sufficient immigrants are allowed in. So it actually doesn't favor those people at all.
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Ties his worst net for a Gallup poll so far (also hit -24 on 3/30 but rebounded on going out of town or bombing someone, i dont remember exactly)
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Dejawesp posted:Is the impeachment efforts making any real progress? I think everyone is assuming that it's a dead letter until he cracks below 30% approval. Nixon had roughly 20% approval when he resigned, so the assumption is Trump would need similar numbers or worse before Republicans rebelled.
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What could ever shake that 38% of the population? Even if you are a conservative, he hasn't followed through on most of his promises EVEN WITH full party control of congress. He got Gorsuch (which is admittedly huge) and that's it.
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Also, of course Cotton is involved in this poo poo.
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Did they pull their finger from the scales or is that AFTER it? Neither one is good.... FOR TRUMP.
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Does anyone else think the stock market is inflating because no one is selling their equities assuming that there is some incoming Republican capital gains tax cut?
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pocket pool posted:I get a feeling that the people saying this poo poo are the same that expect/demand that all immigrants abandon their heritage and start to act "like Americans". But not those elites in NYC, or those heathens in LA or perverts in SF or weirdos in Seattle, or... only as some constructed identity that applies only to a slim portion of "true Americans".
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The bill from Cotton and Perdue, known as the RAISE Act, would end the practice of prioritizing green cards for adult children and extended family of people already in the U.S., discontinue an immigration lottery program and limit the number of refugees to be accepted into the U.S. to only 50,000. Whiny god drat refugees. Always comin' around begging - "oooh I don't want my family to get murdered" "fiddle dee-dee, being sold to a human trafficking ring just vexes my humors" 
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Would that many people want to move to a country where they have to basically know by now that they are going to be discriminated against to ridiculously proactive degrees under Trump anyway? I'm white, early 30's and with a stable job and income as well as a college degree and I sure as gently caress wouldn't want to move there any time soon.
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Kale posted:Would that many people want to move to a country where they have to basically know by now that they are going to be discriminated against to ridiculously proactive degrees under Trump anyway? I'm white, early 30's and with a stable job and income as well as a college degree and I sure as gently caress wouldn't want to move there any time soon. Exactly
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Where are the details on the new immigration proposals? Will this screw me? (My wife is not a US person, but she is white and speaks fluent English. I am a citizen and want to move back home someday).
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Prester Jane posted:One passage that always stuck with me is basically along the lines of "trust a Slav before a Jew, trust a Jew before a Persian, trust a Persian before a" and on and on and on until it ended with something like "but never ever trust an Armenian" (I can't remember exactly who or what composed the pecking order). Racism was deeply embedded in humanities understanding of itself at the time. I once had a discussion with my mom where somehow the topic drifted towards her stating that she would not love any hypothetical black children because "they just look ugly". I managed to pivot from that into a series of questions into what would be her order of preference for the ethnicity of any of my future relationships. IIRC the ranking, from "most opposed" to "least opposed" went something like: Gypsy - Middle Eastern/Muslim - Black - Asian - White Don't recall if I mentioned Eastern European.
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Kale posted:Would that many people want to move to a country that they basically know they are going to be discriminated against to ridiculously proactive degrees under Trump anyway? I'm white, early 30's and with a stable job and income as well as a college degree and I sure as gently caress wouldn't want to move there any time soon. america still provides way more opportunity than a lot of places in the world, and the level of discrimination you may face under trump could be similar to what you face in your home country
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Kale posted:Would that many people want to move to a country where they have to basically know by now that they are going to be discriminated against to ridiculously proactive degrees under Trump anyway? I'm white, early 30's and with a stable job and income as well as a college degree and I sure as gently caress wouldn't want to move there any time soon. I'll have you know that I'm here right now and everything is perfect. Also, would you happen to be renting out your couch at the moment?
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Kale posted:Would that many people want to move to a country where they have to basically know by now that they are going to be discriminated against to ridiculously proactive degrees under Trump anyway? I'm white, early 30's and with a stable job and income as well as a college degree and I sure as gently caress wouldn't want to move there any time soon. Same reason eastern europeans move to the west. The money potential making outweighs being called a name every now and again.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What could ever shake that 38% of the population? That's the most interesting question in American politics right now, I think. I suspect the chief remaining barrier is ignorance, disengagement, and partitioned news sources. Getting Hannity fired might help. Truly obvious public failures, especially policy failures or failures to respond to major disaster, military failures.
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Dmitri-9 posted:Does anyone else think the stock market is inflating because no one is selling their equities assuming that there is some incoming Republican capital gains tax cut? Yes, lots of people don't know how the stock market works.
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happyhippy posted:Same reason eastern europeans move to the west. If only discrimination stopped at "being called a name every now and again."
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Motherfucker's name is Cotton, of course he drafted anti-immigration policy.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Where are the details on the new immigration proposals? Will this screw me? (My wife is not a US person, but she is white and speaks fluent English. I am a citizen and want to move back home someday). I get this feeling that your wife will be among the special types of immigrant favored by the Republican plan. White privilege: useful if you've got it!
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Kale posted:Would that many people want to move to a country where they have to basically know by now that they are going to be discriminated against to ridiculously proactive degrees under Trump anyway? I'm white, early 30's and with a stable job and income as well as a college degree and I sure as gently caress wouldn't want to move there any time soon. A lot of refugees are fleeing North to Canada. During the winter some lost fingers braving the cold to cross into Manitoba. I don't think anyone died attempting the crossing but it very well could have happened.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What could ever shake that 38% of the population? Maybe they'd waver if they found out his great-great-grandfather was black. I don't think they're behind him for any logical or measurable reason. It's all gut feelings and winning and hate.
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Kale posted:Would that many people want to move to a country where they have to basically know by now that they are going to be discriminated against to ridiculously proactive degrees under Trump anyway? I'm white, early 30's and with a stable job and income as well as a college degree and I sure as gently caress wouldn't want to move there any time soon. yes
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An attack on North Korea causing lots of deaths in South Korea would cause even republicans to flee.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Where are the details on the new immigration proposals? Will this screw me? (My wife is not a US person, but she is white and speaks fluent English. I am a citizen and want to move back home someday). If you are going to do a spousal visa/green card path, then it will have little to no impact on you.
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Kale posted:Would that many people want to move to a country where they have to basically know by now that they are going to be discriminated against to ridiculously proactive degrees under Trump anyway? I'm white, early 30's and with a stable job and income as well as a college degree and I sure as gently caress wouldn't want to move there any time soon. Immigration to America was already at a net zero / negative anyway as of like 2014, mostly due to lack of jobs and Obama's crackdown and increased deportations. Immigration is largely a mythical issue. It's no more substantive than any of Trump's other brain farts.
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