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Eraflure
Oct 12, 2012


John Murdoch posted:

If you're playing as Sgt. Hammer for some reason, rip your E key straight off your keyboard and you'll instantly be 25% more effective than 95% of Sgt. Hammers.

Words of wisdom.

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Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
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John Murdoch posted:

If you're playing as Sgt. Hammer for some reason, rip your E key straight off your keyboard and you'll instantly be 25% more effective than 95% of Sgt. Hammers.

uh excuse me, I lead my team both in deaths AND team fight damage (in incidental splash that never secured a kill against the butcher, nova, or murky) that repeatedly ate me for lunch whenever I dove into a team fight and immediately sieged up

How Rude
Aug 13, 2012


FUCK THIS SHIT
I'm late to the discussion but BHB sucks because it's very very easy for the game to snowball out of control for the team that gets the first turn in.

They will likely get a level lead, have enough coins for a second turn in, and just hold the point indefinitely even if you have enough coins to turn in for your behind team. It will be impossible to find an actual window for your team to turn in on the chest because it takes 10 seconds to turn in and the enemy team will likely be constantly scouting and interrupting you while they push lanes/farm camps.

However you can't actually do anything map-pressure wise besides clear camps (and pray the enemy team doesn't just kill you) and it's impossible to soak because again they will farm camps and chests and just turn in again as you desperately pray that you catch up in experience.

This is unlike almost every other objective on a different map where there are clear opportunity costs for camping out the objective point such as taking damage from the objective boss or declaring your position/splitting up your team. The map is also absurdly massive and spread out for the number of points of interest.

It's mostly just an excruciatingly frustrating experience for the losing team, because it feels like you have no opportunity to actually attempt a come back unless the ahead team fucks up extremely badly and hands over all their doubloons instead of just clowning with their advantage.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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I just played a game with Leoric (who is rapidly becoming one of my favorite heroes after initially hating him) where a Hammer actually would setup properly and we'd bait them in, then I'd entomb and it'd just be a loving murderhut between the two of us, a hatted Illidan, and Greymane throwing cocktails.

SO hilarious.


EDIT: Also other than Janitor Leoric, I really want a baseball themed one where his Entomb becomes a little fenced in baseball diamond and he shouts, "SWING FOR THE FENCES," every time he uses it. :allears:

Fuzz fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Aug 2, 2017

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames

Mierenneuker posted:

Note: if you are playing versus AI and the CPU team has a Valeera she tends to bug out and will remain in stealth without attacking. Since Valeera has a noise when she enters stealth (you will recognize it if you play WoW or Hearthstone), it's a good way to learn how to spot 'invisible' heroes.

And if you don't play those games, it's like a /pwaaahh./

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



John Murdoch posted:

If you're playing as Sgt. Hammer for some reason, rip your E key straight off your keyboard and you'll instantly be 25% more effective than 95% of Sgt. Hammers.

Out of curiosity, I checked Sgt. Hammer stats on hotslogs. In most of my drafts, people consider Chromie a hard counter for Sgt. Hammer, so I checked out matchup stats, and...

Silver and below vs. Chromie, Sgt. Hammer wins 31.7% of the time
Gold vs. Chromie, Sgt. Hammer wins 48.3% of the time
Plat and above vs. Chromie, Sgt. Hammer wins 58% of the time

So yeah, there's an obvious trick to Sgt. Hammer that you learn just above gold level, and that's to almost, but not quite entirely, completely ignore your most iconic ability.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
I blame the ui on this one. The unsieged tank should sound stronger.

And why does raynor have a rifle and not a machine gun ffs. Raynor would be one of my favorite heroes if he had a teal outfit that would make that sound sc1 made when you claimed hero units by moving into them that would always go off at the start of maps with hero units.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Raynor not attacking like a regular Marine is a good thing, though. Tychus attacks like a regular Marine and he can't stutter-step worth a drat.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Blizzard. Consider this skin idea:

Justin = Olaf
Travis = Baleog
Griffin = Erik

Please bring these good boys to Heroes just like Dreamworks is going to bring them to Trolls 2

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
So when I have to leave a draft lobby because my team is trolling and end up stuck in the leaver queue what am I supposed to do to get in a drat game. I don't care about playing with other leavers but I have been sitting in queue for 10 minutes so I can't even finish Blizz's stupid req to get out of it.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Power Bottom posted:

Raynor not attacking like a regular Marine is a good thing, though. Tychus attacks like a regular Marine and he can't stutter-step worth a drat.

Raynor does attack like a regular marine though.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

PantsBandit posted:

So when I have to leave a draft lobby because my team is trolling and end up stuck in the leaver queue what am I supposed to do to get in a drat game. I don't care about playing with other leavers but I have been sitting in queue for 10 minutes so I can't even finish Blizz's stupid req to get out of it.

just troll back/sit through the lovely game, friend make them blink first and leave

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



Alpha Mayo posted:

Malthael stuff

I know this is from pages back, but I want to say thanks because even though I've had Malth and played him some this has proven to be good advice. Especially the "just hold down Q" thing.

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

First time playing him, talk about easy mode

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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Garrosh is extremely good and I can't wait for Anduin

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
Can't wait until every Hearthstone character is in the game so you can have a full Hearthstone brawl, which coincides with the release of the Innkeeper as a hero.

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



Bogart posted:

Can't wait until every Hearthstone character is in the game so you can have a full Hearthstone brawl, which coincides with the release of the Innkeeper as a hero.

Once Garrosh launches that's it, right? Every Hearthstone class, with a double for mages. Not like they're ever going to add a second priest to HotS. (Something something calling Cabbit something.)

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

Mind over Matter posted:

Once Garrosh launches that's it, right? Every Hearthstone class, with a double for mages. Not like they're ever going to add a second priest to HotS. (Something something calling Cabbit something.)

Anduin would be a second priest, probably more support than Tyrande is.

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



lucifirius posted:

Anduin would be a second priest, probably more support than Tyrande is.

:thejoke:

Oh right I shouldn't make one-emoticon replies. Uh, uh... well. I'd rather have Velen, personally?

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



PantsBandit posted:

So when I have to leave a draft lobby because my team is trolling and end up stuck in the leaver queue what am I supposed to do to get in a drat game. I don't care about playing with other leavers but I have been sitting in queue for 10 minutes so I can't even finish Blizz's stupid req to get out of it.

Hey

gently caress you don't dodge

beejay
Apr 7, 2002

I appreciate people who dodge when other people are drafting like morons. It does nothing but help me.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

beejay posted:

I appreciate people who dodge when other people are drafting like morons. It does nothing but help me.

In high Diamond and low Platinum, I STILL get people who auto-highlight Nova and just say "You ban Nova, I leave." or "You ban Nova, I feed."

If I am not banning, then I pray that the guy who does bans Nova to save us all.

President Ark
May 16, 2010

:iiam:

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

In high Diamond and low Platinum, I STILL get people who auto-highlight Nova and just say "You ban Nova, I leave." or "You ban Nova, I feed."

If I am not banning, then I pray that the guy who does bans Nova to save us all.

what do these people do if the other team bans nova

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

PantsBandit posted:

So when I have to leave a draft lobby because my team is trolling and end up stuck in the leaver queue what am I supposed to do to get in a drat game. I don't care about playing with other leavers but I have been sitting in queue for 10 minutes so I can't even finish Blizz's stupid req to get out of it.
I assume letting it select any hero for you will make things as easy as possible for the matchmaker. And try during prime time if you aren't already. I haven't had any problem getting leaver matches then.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

BrianBoitano posted:

Hey

gently caress you don't dodge

It's tough when I get stuck with a four stack that immediately says in chat "we're all going specialist"

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

PantsBandit posted:

It's tough when I get stuck with a four stack that immediately says in chat "we're all going specialist"

Be the fifth specialist and never stop pushing. Ever. Ignore the objective and just push. Never stop. Maybe it'll work maybe it won't. But I've seen that kind of poo poo work all the time

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Oh hey I was able to actually watch ads for bits just now. Nice. I got 70 before it grayed out the "watch another" button, but if you exit that and click "Get Bits" again, it let me watch more.

I was able to get over 150 and counting. 100 is what's needed for the "global" mount for free. Nice. Now I need to remember to actually cheer for a team.

Also, one of them I kept getting was a pizza hut ad, where it asked you to pick from 4 two-topping pizzas, but every time I click one it just selects "pepperoni and sausage" and shows that 100% of people voted for that one :v:

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



PantsBandit posted:

It's tough when I get stuck with a four stack that immediately says in chat "we're all going specialist"

The system is designed that, most of the time, dodging will take you longer to get back to playing a "normal" game (leaver queue takes longer, has shitters) than just playing the original game.

On top of that, you're making other people (including the enemy team) requeue, which depending on the time of day, can be a big pain. Don't do that.

Eraflure
Oct 12, 2012


Sometimes you'd rather queue up again and do something else for 10 minutes instead of playing around a lovely 4 stack meme team and not having fun. I don't dodge QM/unranked, but I can see why people do it and I don't mind. They know they're getting a penalty afterwards, they must have their reasons.

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

Gaz, Naz, Zag, Azmo, Murky is an amazing team.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Switch murky for Xul, he almost has a Z in his name.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

Macaluso posted:

Be the fifth specialist and never stop pushing. Ever. Ignore the objective and just push. Never stop. Maybe it'll work maybe it won't. But I've seen that kind of poo poo work all the time

It's actually kind of fun, and depending on the map and how the enemy reacts, you can do pretty well.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

PantsBandit posted:

It's tough when I get stuck with a four stack that immediately says in chat "we're all going specialist"

Slam pick murky

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

BrianBoitano posted:

Oh hey I was able to actually watch ads for bits just now. Nice. I got 70 before it grayed out the "watch another" button, but if you exit that and click "Get Bits" again, it let me watch more.

I was able to get over 150 and counting. 100 is what's needed for the "global" mount for free. Nice. Now I need to remember to actually cheer for a team.

Also, one of them I kept getting was a pizza hut ad, where it asked you to pick from 4 two-topping pizzas, but every time I click one it just selects "pepperoni and sausage" and shows that 100% of people voted for that one :v:

Where do you go to watch the ads?

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



You have to be A) :fsmug: and B) in the subset of users they're "testing" the feature on. They said they'd be rolling it out to all of the US back in June but there are still people itt who say they can't.

Then you go to any twitch stream, and click the bit icon in your "send message" chat box. Then click "Get Bits" and then check here:


As you can see, I was able to get 170 today (I got 5 the other day before they said "lol gently caress off")

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
There's a thing in settings -> options called "challenges" and if you started pre-2.0 you'll get a free 4k epic hero (un-rerollable) and a 7 day stim pack after completing it. I got Sonya, which was amazing for me because I really wanted her.

Certainly old news but it's so hidden someone else might get value off of it.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

BrianBoitano posted:

You have to be A) :fsmug: and B) in the subset of users they're "testing" the feature on. They said they'd be rolling it out to all of the US back in June but there are still people itt who say they can't.

Then you go to any twitch stream, and click the bit icon in your "send message" chat box. Then click "Get Bits" and then check here:


As you can see, I was able to get 170 today (I got 5 the other day before they said "lol gently caress off")

Thanks, is it 5 per ad? So 20 for the mount?

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Personal experience is 65% 5-bit ads, 25% 10-bit ads, 10% more. I've gotten up to 50 for one in the past.

So with only 5 and 10 bit ads you're looking like ~15 ads instead of 20. You can run these in a different muted separate window. Just put your actual work/internet/whatever filling 90% of your screen with the edge of the ad visible. When you see the "interact with this ad to continue", switch to that window, interact (clicking blank space within the ad counts too, lol), and collect five technopennies.

There's a cat treat one with a memory game, but most of them are just "click here for the second half of the ad! You're interacting! This is interactive!"

beejay
Apr 7, 2002

That fake McDonald's "say Big Mac to continue" thing has become reality.

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Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
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beejay posted:

That fake McDonald's "say Big Mac to continue" thing has become reality.

that wasn't fake, that was legit marketing stuff microsofts marketing team was using to try and sell companies/advertising partners on for the xbone, wasn't it?

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