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Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

"Commisar as guy who constantly shoots his own men" is some worn out poo poo in wargames.

Huh, I've been playing too many wargames, I legitimately thought that a commisar was a military officer, but it's actually a political official.

Today I learned, I guess.

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Colonial Air Force posted:

That's more or less what they should be, it's just the religion was The State instead of a deity. +1 to morale or something.

At worst, there'd be a rule where the commissar tries to overrule the officer if they try to retreat, and then it's a roll for who the men listen to (and a court martial after the game, but then who cares?). Even that would only be appropriate early war, before they eliminated the idea that commissars had equal military command and instead subordinated them to the officer.

Yeah "secular chaplain of the State/Party" is a pretty good shorthand.

The BA Chaplain Rules are:

quote:

Chaplain
-Self-defence only: Clergymen are not soldiers and will not take part in hostile actions - they cannot fire any weapon, nor assault enemy units. If your chaplain is equipped with a pistol, it can only be used in close quarters if the enemy assaults him (including firing it at the assaulting enemies as a reaction, if applicable).
-Non-combatant: The chaplain is there to support the soldiers, not win battles. A chaplain unit cannot be used to claim or contest objectives.
-Inspiring presence: Upon receiving his order dice (except for Down), a chaplain may select one friendly unit within 6" and roll a D6, applying the following modifiers: Inexperienced -1, Veteran +1. On a 4+, the chaplain may remove 1 pin from the selected unit.

I'd say the last benefit could work more or less as is; and trade the pacifist drawbacks for maybe a bubble where he negates or reduces officer bonuses. Like he's a "third lieutenant" and if both he and an officer are within 6" of a unit they reduce the officer bonus by 1.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Roll to see if Commissar wrote letters home for the illiterate troops among the "insert unit size"

If successful more morale

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I like the one CoC version where the political officer counts as two men for morale purposes.

Am I too late to ask about basing 6mm WW2? I'm leaning towards 40mm x 12mm strips of 5-6 figures, but that's primarily so they can serve double-duty in Epic 40k. (This would be primarily for BKC3 and IABSM.)

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Bolt Action: Are you supposed to select one and only one national characteristic to use with your platoon?

Because uh my whole club has been doing it waaaay wrong and applying them all.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


No, you use all of them. The British just have one with a couple different options.

Doorstop
Jan 13, 2008
I really miss Texas

tallkidwithglasses posted:

Dang, I don't check in on the thread for like a week and not one but two posters find themselves venturing down the 6mm BP rabbit hole.

My armies are on 30x30mm square bases with three strips a base, but in hindsight i probably would have gone 20x20 with two strips a base. I definitely wouldn't bother modeling everything in different formations, just stick to square bases so you can do column/attack column/line pretty easily.

For the poster that has everything on 60x60- not a big problem, really. It makes forming a line pretty annoying, but yeah, I'd just use tokens or something. If it ends up driving you nuts it's not a huge or costly endeavour to just rebase.

Thanks that was me. I'm playing with the idea of silhouettes cut out of card if a unit goes to line to make gaps more accurate, since I don't figure march or column would need more than a token.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I'm crazy and I have a huge table and by god I will play Black Powder in 28mm

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Phi230 posted:

I'm crazy and I have a huge table and by god I will play Black Powder in 28mm

Go for it then! 28mm can be glorious as well. Here are some better pics of the dragoons I finished yesterday:











More pics on the blog:

http://krigetkommer.weebly.com/napoleonic-blog/more-french-dragoons

Perry's French Dragoon box is a really good buy, as you get 1.5 units of mounted dragoons for SP2, and 1 unit of dismounted dragoons as well. If I didn't have tons of unpainted stuff I'd be itching for a third box now.

Fish and Chimps
Feb 16, 2012

mmmfff
Fun Shoe
Looking great as always.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Fish and Chimps posted:

Looking great as always.

Thanks! By my calculations I'm just about under 1/3 through my cavalry stash now. :)

Fish and Chimps
Feb 16, 2012

mmmfff
Fun Shoe

lilljonas posted:

Thanks! By my calculations I'm just about under 1/3 through my cavalry stash now. :)

When I finish the 6 heavy Dragoons I got primed right now, I'll be exactly half way. Too bad I still got 4 Anglo-Allied infantry battalions and 4 French ones to do after that. Oh, and about 6 cannon and a load of generals and a couple of limbers and and and... :shepicide:

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Phi230 posted:

I quickly assembled the two kits I got.

So the Bunker I got is literally perfectly sized for 15mm. Great.

The PZ4 looks about right for 15mm but I don't have any "official" 15mm Panzers/WW2 to compare it to since all my 15mm stuff is Team Yankee.
At 1:72 your Panzer IV is going to be the size of a King Tiger. It's waaaaay too big. Square cube law man.

moths posted:

I like the one CoC version where the political officer counts as two men for morale purposes.

Am I too late to ask about basing 6mm WW2? I'm leaning towards 40mm x 12mm strips of 5-6 figures, but that's primarily so they can serve double-duty in Epic 40k. (This would be primarily for BKC3 and IABSM.)
Epic is really lenient with base sizing as of the most recent edition. Can't find the PDF right now, but IIRC it was basically "as long as the area is no less than that of our bases".

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Arquinsiel posted:

At 1:72 your Panzer IV is going to be the size of a King Tiger. It's waaaaay too big. Square cube law man.

Epic is really lenient with base sizing as of the most recent edition. Can't find the PDF right now, but IIRC it was basically "as long as the area is no less than that of our bases".

It's only the size of one of my BMPs

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
It should be around 8.22cm in length, compared to the BMP's 6.74, just going by hull length and assuming your BMP is 1/100. Basically you're talking a 25% increase in every dimension. If you don't mind that it'll look weird and your group is okay with the advantages and disadvantages the size gives you then you can go ahead.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Well I guess it'll just be good paint practice

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

Phi230 posted:

I'm crazy and I have a huge table and by god I will play Black Powder in 28mm

:toxx:

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Well what's the time limit on this cuz I gotta buy and paint enough models first

Fish and Chimps
Feb 16, 2012

mmmfff
Fun Shoe

Phi230 posted:

Well what's the time limit on this cuz I gotta buy and paint enough models first

In this case 10 years

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Phi230 posted:




Finally got around to basing my infantry, here's a sample of a few of thew bases since there's like 20 of them.

Decided to try some new techniques to both weather my BMPs and highlight them to make them/the details pop rather than just basecoat + wash. I need some crit on the following BMP pics:






So how'd I do? I'm thinking the dust on the armor skirts on the left/right should be thicker? Overall the hatches and such have proven too small to drybrush the edges with steel color. Any way to get in there to weather those edges? Maybe just user a smaller flat brush overall for the drybrushing?

Also how to take better pictures


Posting this for more critique and more importantly do my men and BMP look historically plausible.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.
It's hard to see the weathering well with the way the pics are lit, but the dust effect on the back is really well done. I like the terrain on the l'il dudes' bases.

Fish and Chimps
Feb 16, 2012

mmmfff
Fun Shoe
Two Hanoverian skirmisher bases for a brigade skirmish line for General d'Armee.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Well, Bolt Action tournament trip report: I won!
:britain:
Alright, to lay out the scene, there were a whole bunch of pre-arranged boards that people rotated around, which had various enclosed fields with a central road (with tank traps) running down the middle and usually a pair of dense woods, one for each side.

The first scenario was Top Secret, and the board had a road running the down the centre, with a church on one side and a graveyard on the other. My opponent was I think another new player, since he also had a bunch of unpainted dudes. He was playing Germans, I think an SS list? He had a Panther, Puma and I think a Pak 75,as well as two small units of SS infantry and a Forward Observer. After my Sherman bit it on turn 2, I had some good luck on turn 3 where my arty barrage landed bang on the Panther, which lead to it being pinned basically the rest of the game as well as pinning most of his other units, his arty went off course and while pinning a few of my units, it also got a direct hit on his own infantry. I was able to easily get my Commandos up to grab the objective, and aside from an unfortunate incident with an attempted handoff to my forward observer after he got shot before he could escort it off the board, I got the objective off board the next turn.

The next scenario was Demolition, against another German player who wasn't from our club, and he was playing a Bulge German list with a few small infantry units, a medium mortar, a sniper team, and oh yeah, a friggin' Tiger. The map had a river running through it and three bridges, with the central one blocked. My Forward Observers was able to deploy in the woods on my side of the woods and put down a barrage that forced him to disperse his troops. He kept most of his troops in the centre and sent his Tiger down his left flank (that bridge was nearer to my objective). His mortar killed off one of my light mortars and my sniper team, but amazingly a squad of my Commandos managed to block his Tiger on the bridge, stalling his advance. Despite lacking any anti-tank weapons, they managed to block him and despite several rounds of near-point-blank shooting, they amazingly survived. My other mortar was not so lucky, but the Tiger was large enough it tied up the whole bridge, and where it was meant the woods blocked line of sight to it for most of the rest of my army, which let them keep calm and carry on to the objective. On turn six, my other subsection had manged to push down the central road, and I released that my prone Vickers K gunner would be able to advance far enough to be in contact with the objective. The newly-dubbed Lance Corporal Leland Jenkins led his comrades in a final effort to take the objective, and this basically forced him into a mad panic to charge my command team with his mortar and another of his infantry squads, but my commandos saw them off for the win. I decided to dub the other section the Tiger Tamers.

The final scenario was Meeting Engagement against a US player who had a veteran/paratrooper based list, with a truck and Sherman as support (he also had two bazooka teams, one of which was mounted in a jeep). He chose to keep the bazookas in reserve, and I mostly stalled his advance in the centre by dropping my artillery in his woods, which were fairly central on his side of the board and sent on subsection down each side of the board. When the artillery did come, it only pinned the sole squad of his infantry still in the centre. The flanks saw most of the fighting - the woods stopped his tanks from seeing most of my forces, but I made a major fuckup on my left flank, and that subsection got pretty badly mauled. On the right flank, the Tiger Tamers continued to lead a relatively charmed life, as the howitzer repeatedly tried to hit them and missed (it did once try to hit my sniper after I foolishly put them in the building - in my defense I didn't know about the HE bonus against buildings until he told me - but it also missed). The US infantry squad on that side got lucky and picked off one of my machinegunners, but the Tamers managed to rush them the following turn We got to turn 4 when time was about to be called, and suddenly he brought in the bazookas - I'd forgotten about them, and he'd sent them to outflank! Luckily one failed the leadership roll (which gave my a free command dice since time was called before the. The other rolled up in their jeep, ready to put a bazooka round into my Sherman's rear armour - I'd turned it to support my beleaguered commandos on the opposite flank. It all seemed hopeless...until I realised my opponent and I had both forgotten my forward observer, who was packing an SMG and within charge distance of the jeep. He launched an assault, and despite being outnumbered two-to-one, he managed to triumph over the enemy, giving me another two dice. With time called, I had 4 dice to his none.

So to everyone's surprise, including my own, I won the tournament and got two free sprues (everyone else got one - I picked one each of British and US airborne) and the Enemy Agents & Defenders of the Realm blisters as prizes. All in all, not bad for only my second, third and fourth ever games of Bolt Action.

I think that was probably the ultimate in beginner's luck, though. That, or Commandos are essentially idiot-proof. But at the end of the day, I had a great time!

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.
Awesome! Congrats on the win!

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Ilor posted:

Awesome! Congrats on the win!

Thanks! I'm quite pleased to find that hey, Commandos wore smocks like the paras, so I already start expanding my army with my trophies. I originally grabbed them for conversion fodder!

I'm thinking I can use the bare/garrison cap heads from the US paras too. Plus as actual US paras for my US force.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Is there a good Age of Sail miniature game?

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Arglebargle III posted:

Is there a good Age of Sail miniature game?

Sails of Glory or Wooden Ships and Iron Men

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Phi230 posted:

For some reason I have very poor lighting. What should I do to take better pictures?

I tried rigging a ghetto lighting box, it looks like hell but its better than before.

I added more weathering effects to my BMP.





So besides taking better pictures, what do I need to do on this guy.

Reposting again. Really dunno if I'm doing a good job.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

Arglebargle III posted:

Is there a good Age of Sail miniature game?
Agreed, Sails of Glory is cool. Super fiddly, but cool. The movement mechanic in particular is pretty awesome.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Dunno if this is the best place for it, but I've got a BA M4 Sherman that I've never opened, and would be into trading it for some Napoleonics 28mm stuff.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Phi230 posted:

Reposting again. Really dunno if I'm doing a good job.

Paintwise that's fab; you've got a really great weathered look over the track guard there and you've got a touch of silvering on edges that looks pretty great. The only complaint I could make would be modelling based.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

spectralent posted:

Paintwise that's fab; you've got a really great weathered look over the track guard there and you've got a touch of silvering on edges that looks pretty great. The only complaint I could make would be modelling based.

What complaint is that? Did I gently caress up the assembly at some point?

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Phi230 posted:

What complaint is that? Did I gently caress up the assembly at some point?

The left-hand turret launcher appears to be arranged running vertically instead of horizontally; they run parallel on all the BMP-2 models I've aware of. If they didn't fit parallel in assembly it's possible they were facing the wrong way.

Like this:


spectralent fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Aug 6, 2017

muggins
Mar 3, 2008

I regard the death and mangling of a couple thousand toy soldiers as a small affair, a kind of morning dash

Fish and Chimps posted:

Two Hanoverian skirmisher bases for a brigade skirmish line for General d'Armee.



They look great! Have you tried GDA or Picketts Charge yet?

Flipswitch posted:

Hi goons, does anyone here play Spectre Ops? I've been asked by my LGS to help make semi-realistic boards with them, what size tables do they use? 6x4? How much scenery or am I looking for? or go with something towards a realistic representation?

I haven't played yet, but hope to. I'd imagine with modern warfare stuff you'd want a pretty good set of LOS blocking things, dips and valleys, vehicles, etc

muggins fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Aug 6, 2017

Fish and Chimps
Feb 16, 2012

mmmfff
Fun Shoe

muggins posted:

They look great! Have you tried GDA or Picketts Charge yet?

Thanks! Yeah, we played a single game of GdA and found it complex but a lot closer to how Napoleonic battles would play out historically than Black Powder.

Also, you need loads of units. 6 mm. is probably ideal for it. It seems like a very Grey Hunter set of rules.

Fish and Chimps fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Aug 6, 2017

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

spectralent posted:

The left-hand turret launcher appears to be arranged running vertically instead of horizontally; they run parallel on all the BMP-2 models I've aware of. If they didn't fit parallel in assembly it's possible they were facing the wrong way.

Like this:




Just looks like it's angled for reloading.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Arquinsiel posted:

Just looks like it's angled for reloading.

Yeah sure we'll go with that instead of me putting the launcher on backwards!

Actually IIRC you change out the whole tube rather than angle it to reload the rocket

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Now that you say it that makes total sense, but would never have occurred to me.

muggins
Mar 3, 2008

I regard the death and mangling of a couple thousand toy soldiers as a small affair, a kind of morning dash

Fish and Chimps posted:

Thanks! Yeah, we played a single game of GdA and found it complex but a lot closer to how Napoleonic battles would play out historically than Black Powder.

Also, you need loads of units. 6 mm. is probably ideal for it. It seems like a very Grey Hunter set of rules.

It seems very daunting. I like black powder but it's also very simple and not a very good simulation like you said. It's also designed for massive tables. I'd really like to try GDA or PC.

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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
How do you guys store your armies. Not for transport but just like around

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