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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

No worries about it becoming a movie I guess ;)

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Vastarien
Dec 20, 2012

Where I live is nightmare, thus a certain nonchalance.



Buglord

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Drawing of the Three is miles better

Black Character: "Honky mahfah!" *masturbates*

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Andro Dunos posted:

That's pretty much Steven King's writing habit. He's said before that he doesn't come up with an outline, doesn't keep any notes, doesn't write out character or plot ideas, or even decide how his books are going to end. He has a basic premise and just sits down and starts typing at page 1 and inserts random things whenever they come to him while he's typing and then quits once he's exhausted every scenario he can think of. That's why his stories are often so scatterbrained, meandering, endlessly reuse the same tropes, and are a thousand pages long for no reason.

That's kind of inspired me. I have a few book ideas but I hate "organizing" my thoughts or planning for anything. My problem is that I'm really laid back and lazy.

Where can I get ahold of some of that coke stuff?

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


Eli Roth's next masterpeice is a remake of Death Wish or whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_I4zqC7GN8

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Quantum of Phallus posted:

Drawing of the Three is miles better

????
The Wastelands is far and away the best book and I thought this was commonly accepted by everyone who's read the series



Although The Gunslinger is my favorite :shobon:

And then the series just kinda went to poo poo I guess starting at book 5

Shame to hear that the movie is apparently not very good :smith:

vermin
Feb 28, 2017

Help, I've turned into a manifestation of mental disorders as viewed through an early 20th century lens sparked by the disparity between man and modern society and I can't get up
In Valerian, why didn't they make a trans-mat robot hand so that when he was done pulling a gun on John Goodman he could just peace out instead of going on that chase scene? How did John Goodman know about the super energy pearls? If everyone thought the planet was uninhabited and the gray guys were all but destroyed how did he know about them? Why did no one try to conquer that planet before?

How did that chase scene work? What if one of the tourists had to go up a flight of stairs in the Big Market? What if you just kept walking straight into a wall? Would the helmet stop you?

Why does no one acknowledge how weird it is Valerian had a psychic dream? Is Valerian or Loreline the superior officer? What government agency do they work for? Is it the same government as the one on the giant space station?

If the general was a bad guy and they knew it, why didn't they line up the killbots execution style and shoot them? Or corral them into a storage container? What was with that "a soldier always chooses death over humiliation" line?

Why did the jellyfish know where Valerian landed? How did it get video footage of it? Didn't Valerian chasing after everyone in that power armor ruin a bunch of alien environments?

How did the noble savage aliens survive in that destroyed space ship if the planet that spaceship was on was also destroyed?

Why did Valerian and Loreline think the general was going to confess at the end? How did they tie up the general in the vines in two seconds? What were those vines attached to? Weren't they inside the spaceship?

Why did they introduce Rihanna and kill her off in 5 minutes? Why was her ADR so bad? What was with that "I'm just an illegal immigrant" line? Why did she never stop commenting on what was happening? Was it because they never introduced a comic relief?

Does Loreli have the same power armor as Valerian? Why didn't she use it to escape the fat aliens?

vermin fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Aug 3, 2017

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

A Handed Missus posted:

Eli Roth's next masterpeice is a remake of Death Wish or whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_I4zqC7GN8

Death Wish doesn't really work without the dirty gritty NYC of 70's films.

Endless Trash
Aug 12, 2007


It's because Valerian was dogshit garbage made by assholes.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

A Handed Missus posted:

Eli Roth's next masterpeice is a remake of Death Wish or whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_I4zqC7GN8

Putting Dean Norris and Bruce Willis in the same movie is a bold choice.

A bald choice even.

But seriously, they kind of look alike. Unless they bring it up in the movie, it can be really distracting.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

A Handed Missus posted:

Eli Roth's next masterpeice is a remake of Death Wish or whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_I4zqC7GN8

That looks exactly what I would expect an Eli Roth Death Wish to look like. Completely uneven tone, unsure if it's comedy or drama or horror, trailer with an out-of-place song. I imagine that apartment rape scene is going to be incredibly creepy and go on way too long.

And I'll probably watch it anyways. :shrug:

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/893121883935301632
https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/893124630482911232

:agreed:

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

The only way you should remake Death Wish is with a CGI Charles Bronson. :colbert:

And a bazooka.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Raw is the best movie released this year

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Eli Roth is a wretched loving director

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Eli Roth is a wretched loving director

He's a trainwreck that I can't look away from. And I will defend his stupid rear end movies to the bitter end because I'm glad that he keeps making them.

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


WampaLord posted:

The only way you should remake Death Wish is with a CGI Charles Bronson. :colbert:

And a bazooka.

there's always the other Charles Bronson

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

A Handed Missus posted:

there's always the other Charles Bronson

Yeah, I'd watch that.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Shinjobi posted:

I did not mind Dark Tower. It was not great, kinda mediocre, but I liked Idris Elba and Matthew McConaughey. McC as the Man in Black was quite enjoyably cheesy.

But yeah, there are pacing issues and weird edits. I have not read the books, for what it's worth.

Is it relatively self contained, or are they trying to start a franchise? Or is it somewhere in between?

Power_of_the_glory
Feb 14, 2012

FrensaGeran posted:

It's because Valerian was dogshit garbage made by assholes.

On the plus side, I did like the visuals. I wish Star Wars could be more creative with their settings.

Valerian was the most disappointing movie I have seen in a while.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Jose Oquendo posted:

Death Wish doesn't really work without the dirty gritty NYC of 70's films.

Given the plot of Death Wish, it's kind of dumb to have it star an established action star. It was kind of dumb to have Bronson, but he at least played the sad cuck version of his character pretty well at the beginning. I kind of wish they'd cast someone who'd be genuinely shocking to see murdering street punks, like Michael Stuhlbarg or or William H. Macy.

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


General Dog posted:

Is it relatively self contained, or are they trying to start a franchise? Or is it somewhere in between?

there's going to be a TV series next year with Elba returning

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

A Handed Missus posted:

there's going to be a TV series next year with Elba returning

Looking a little closer, it looks like it's going to be a Young Indiana Jones type thing for Elba's character and he's just going to be around as part of a 'present-day' framing device.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Pffft as if Sony will stump up the cash for a series when the movie is only 90 minutes.
Good luck!

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
They're turning Death Wish into a dumb action movie and Eli Roth is directing it lol- why not just... have it be named something else? Does anyone really remember loving Death Wish at this point?



Death Wish is the movie where the main character kills someone and throws up afterwards before going down a dark and morally questionable path of like inviting crime upon himself so he can kill more people

*AC/DC plays*



Eli Roth is a really stupid filmmaker but he just seems so earnest about it

He loves making his terrible terrible movies!

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
It's always been weird to me that Eli Roth is making AAA movies. He's like a really good b-movie guy who somehow tricked everyone into taking him seriously.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Monkey Fracas posted:

They're turning Death Wish into a dumb action movie and Eli Roth is directing it lol- why not just... have it be named something else? Does anyone really remember loving Death Wish at this point?



Death Wish is the movie where the main character kills someone and throws up afterwards before going down a dark and morally questionable path of like inviting crime upon himself so he can kill more people

*AC/DC plays*


Let's not kid ourselves, the original Death Wish was really dumb. This is a universe where literally any time anyone steps outside they're immediately assailed by murders (yeah I get it, 70's New York, ha ha).

That's kind of what I don't like about the original Death Wish- for a vigilante empowerment fantasy, it's cowardly. Bronson always acts in self defense when he kills, but fortunately there's just always somebody there trying to kill him wherever he goes. It always tries to give him some pretense of the moral high ground even though it's not consistent with his characterization. If you want to make a movie about a guy cleaning the streets by hunting down punks, then make it, don't give me this middle ground bullshit.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Quantum of Phallus posted:

Drawing of the Three is miles better

nope, i posted the thing i posted as it's true. it's close to, if not, king's best book even.

drawing of the three is where the dumbness starts creeping in. and in the case of odetta comes storming in.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

General Dog posted:

Let's not kid ourselves, the original Death Wish was really dumb. This is a universe where literally any time anyone steps outside they're immediately assailed by murders (yeah I get it, 70's New York, ha ha).

That's kind of what I don't like about the original Death Wish- for a vigilante empowerment fantasy, it's cowardly. Bronson always acts in self defense when he kills, but fortunately there's just always somebody there trying to kill him wherever he goes. It always tries to give him some pretense of the moral high ground even though it's not consistent with his characterization. If you want to make a movie about a guy cleaning the streets by hunting down punks, then make it, don't give me this middle ground bullshit.


I mean I always thought it was supposed to be morally questionable and not like 100% some kinda empowerment fantasy. Like he isn't really acting in self-defense- he's inviting it upon himself so he can murder some criminals. Death Wish Man is choosing to continue pursuing it.

Even if you say the movie is ultimately glorifying it (easily arguable and probably true) and it's a dumb and bad movie there's a little more nuance and thought there, just a teeny bit more, than BACK IN BLEEACK I HIT THE SACCEK UGH YEHA HE HEA HEA *fart and gun noises ensue*

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

General Dog posted:

Let's not kid ourselves, the original Death Wish was really dumb. This is a universe where literally any time anyone steps outside they're immediately assailed by murders (yeah I get it, 70's New York, ha ha).

That's kind of what I don't like about the original Death Wish- for a vigilante empowerment fantasy, it's cowardly. Bronson always acts in self defense when he kills, but fortunately there's just always somebody there trying to kill him wherever he goes. It always tries to give him some pretense of the moral high ground even though it's not consistent with his characterization. If you want to make a movie about a guy cleaning the streets by hunting down punks, then make it, don't give me this middle ground bullshit.

The original movie wasn't really like that. The entire city wasn't out to kill him, he went to "bad places" like public parks after dark and subway stations looking for trouble. It was kind of assumed that everywhere else in the city, most of the time things were relatively calm.

By Death Wish 3 you have an entire neighborhood that looks like a literal war zone with gangs just openly going around in public raping and robbing people practically in broad daylight.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Bruce Willis now makes me just think of the Fred _Delicious twitter jokes which are great, full thread here: https://twitter.com/Fred_Delicious/status/891705092260466688

(I would rather see the movie of his interactions with a harassing pug than a Death Wish remake)

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

King Vidiot posted:

The original movie wasn't really like that. The entire city wasn't out to kill him, he went to "bad places" like public parks after dark and subway stations looking for trouble. It was kind of assumed that everywhere else in the city, most of the time things were relatively calm.

By Death Wish 3 you have an entire neighborhood that looks like a literal war zone with gangs just openly going around in public raping and robbing people practically in broad daylight.

Reminds me a little of the Rambo movies

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
The Death Wish remake should be set in Iraq, about some Iraqi dude going all Death Wish on ISIS

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!

khwarezm posted:

Really? everything I've read was very positive. I don't mind the timeline but my biggest problems were the characters felt really sketchily drawn, especially compared to stuff like Flags of our Fathers or Saving Private Ryan while overall it sort of just went through the usual motions of a World War 2 movie, you know the kind of thing, lots of selfless, heroic stuff where one plane comes in and saves tons of people or a 60 year old man and a 16 year old kid pack 20 men on their little hobby boat, a few scenes where the soldiers start to fight and turn on each other when things are extremely tense, a couple of brave and capable commanders to exposite to the audience, a bit of reflection on the tragedy of war, but ending with some inspirational speech about fighting for freedom in the face of overwhelming darkness, that sort of thing.

I know a lot people are arguing that Nolan wanted to concentrate on the moment to moment survival and terror of the situation that people experienced, but I think he tripped himself up by relying so much on actual hardware and eschewing CGI, usually I'd love that kind of thing but when you read about actual accounts from Dunkirk there were far more men stuck on the beaches, planes fighting in the sky for both sides and large naval vessels coming and going to Dunkirk to retrieve the army. I know its tough but I feel that the film didn't really capture that sense of scale that you get reading the history, which is a strange complaint since usually modern Hollywood gets that sort of thing down even if they fail everywhere else. The PG-13 rating might have hamstrung what they could show, certainly something as raw and horrifying as the Normandy landing in Ryan was not on the cards.

Still; there was a lot of good stuff, the scenes of boats being downed and people desperately trying to claw their way out, sometimes in pitch darkness, were really gripping. I also though Cillian Murphy did a good job in the film.

i'm leaving out the review where the person slammed the movie because it had too many men, but these came up for me:

http://www.vulture.com/2017/07/dunkirk-movie-review-a-great-war-movie-except.html

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/dunkirk-a-war-movie-about-patriotic-ciphers

https://newrepublic.com/article/144014/dunkirk-manages-make-war-boring

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/however-brave-it-is-dunkirk-lacks-an-emotional-core/

http://leonardmaltin.com/dunkirk-misses-the-big-picture/

there are others, of course. i mean, these aren't critical slammings. most reviews still enjoyed the editing and cinematography, the score, or even just the intensity of the air sequence--but still found the film lacking. i quite enjoyed the film and don't really agree with the reviewers who felt that the film needed a traditional emotional core or character arcs.

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


priznat posted:

Bruce Willis now makes me just think of the Fred _Delicious twitter jokes which are great, full thread here: https://twitter.com/Fred_Delicious/status/891705092260466688

(I would rather see the movie of his interactions with a harassing pug than a Death Wish remake)

the parrot one is my fav

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

hi, whats the appeal of red letter media. do they have charisma

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

Lawrence Gilchrist posted:

hi, whats the appeal of red letter media. do they have charisma

Classic Gilchrist

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!
I'm really b ummed out the dark tower is doing horribly, the first 3 books were loving great and good enough to build a into a better ending

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo

Lawrence Gilchrist posted:

hi, whats the appeal of red letter media. do they have charisma

It's the intelligent humour https://youtu.be/p3OquU4L1tc?t=1390

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Lawrence Gilchrist posted:

hi, whats the appeal of red letter media. do they have charisma

alluring Wisconsin twink action, watching a man slowly turn into a sphere while his friend drinks himself to death


for real though they're the least-bad movie people on the internet by miles

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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
I wish I could still enjoy war movies. I've seen so many as a child, I'm completely burned-out on the genre.

Unless it's movies about wars among stars. Those I loving love.

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