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Tom Perez B/K/M?
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B 77 25.50%
K 160 52.98%
M 65 21.52%
Total: 229 votes
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Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Iron Twinkie posted:

https://twitter.com/realdasein/status/893142205438844929

:psyduck:
These people are completely out of their loving minds!

The comments on that first tweet were pretty hilarious.

https://twitter.com/dilemmv/status/892946228698382336

https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/892934327931154436

https://twitter.com/kelsimp/status/892938133989347329

https://twitter.com/WmBrockschmidt/status/892931392832757760

And one lone sane voice.

https://twitter.com/LA_Crystal/status/892930136407986176

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Condiv posted:

it's just another "millenials!" thing

the dems literally cannot comprehend the younger generations cause they're filled from top to bottom with ancient geezer deadwood

A lot of the people doing all this insane poo poo are literally younger millennials though.

You don't have to be old to be massively out of touch.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
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FuriousxGeorge posted:

Wow, sounds like a massive voter block. I recommend pandering to them.

They're relatively small, and they're very, very stupid, but it doesn't cost the Dems all that much to support legalization.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

NewForumSoftware posted:

lol that you still haven't figured out that the "PRO WEED CENTRIST BOOGEYMAN" is what doesn't exist, not the single issue voter

His name is Corey Booker you absolute loving moron.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Iron Twinkie posted:

These people are completely out of their loving minds!

If you like toxicity then you'll love hitting [in-group] with, "agree or you're [out-group]."

Step 1) Stoke toxicity.
Step 2) Offer $CANDIDATE as a lifeboat.

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

JailTrump posted:

Hey here's an idea...how about you not do something that's illegal instead of bitching about it all the time?

I loving hate potheads. And my generation for being such loving potheads. Cheap escapism for people incapable of coping with the realities of life.

And they're like "Hey bro man it's a free country" when they find out doing something illegal will get you arrested.

Now let's hear your wife's idiot takes on this while we're at it.

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

WampaLord posted:

His name is Corey Booker you absolute loving moron.

Corey Booker isn't pro weed

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
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NewForumSoftware posted:

Tulsi Gabbard would be a step in the right direction fyi

In a couple of issues, she would be. In a host of other issues, she would be a MASSIVE leap backwards.

See, this is why it's important to not vote on a single issue.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

NewForumSoftware posted:

Gary Johnson does not exist

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

NewForumSoftware posted:

Corey Booker isn't pro weed

Do you not read the loving thread?

Kokoro Wish posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4DE9fnPqpA

TL/DR: Cory Booker introduces fantastic new Marijuana bill advocating for states' rights to legalize!*


*because his biggest donors in the pharma industry are now looking into acquiring all of the smaller companies that open up in states that legalize.

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Majorian posted:

In a couple of issues, she would be. In a host of other issues, she would be a MASSIVE leap backwards.

Actually that's not true but feel free to keep carrying water for the hilldawg

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

WampaLord posted:

Do you not read the loving thread?

lol that you think states rights decriminilization bullshit is "pro-weed". it's what we have now you.

enshrining our current rear end-backwards policy as law is about as centrist as you can get

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.

NewForumSoftware posted:

lol that you think states rights decriminilization bullshit is "pro-weed". it's what we have now you.

enshrining our current rear end-backwards policy as law is about as centrist as you can get

So Bernie is more centrist than Booker on this?

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

FuriousxGeorge posted:

So Bernie is more centrist than Booker on this?

yes it's one of bernie's many issues

see also: foreign policy

don't get me wrong, Bernie is the best senator by a mile and an acceptable candidate. but he's a compromise, all candidates are. he's just one im willing to make

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

NewForumSoftware posted:

lol that you think states rights decriminilization bullshit is "pro-weed". it's what we have now you.

enshrining our current rear end-backwards policy as law is about as centrist as you can get

Ah, the No True Weedman fallacy.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Amazing to see Democrats going full 'Don't touch the devil's lettuce!' in 2017

You do realise anti-drug laws are used to massively disproportionately jail and enslave African-Americans (and probably also Hispanics) while ignoring white people smoking the reefer, right?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Inescapable Duck posted:

Amazing to see Democrats going full 'Don't touch the devil's lettuce!' in 2017

You do realise anti-drug laws are used to massively disproportionately jail and enslave African-Americans (and probably also Hispanics) while ignoring white people smoking the reefer, right?

That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm super pro-weed, but being a single issue weed voter is loving stupid.

You shouldn't be a single issue anything voter.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Edit: ^^Oh.

WampaLord posted:

That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm super pro-weed, but being a single issue weed voter is loving stupid.

Does this differ from your outlook on single-issue voters writ large?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
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NewForumSoftware posted:

Actually that's not true but feel free to keep carrying water for the hilldawg

Hahaha, okay, keep on blatantly trollin'.

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax
It's less anti-marijuana and more anti-"people caring about something so much they won't vote for a politician that appeases them", which is exactly what we need to break the hold these idiots have on the DNC

they either appease all the single issue weed, healthcare, minimum wage, etc voters or they don't win

of course reformed centrists are all about "no we just need to tell everyone our clearly correct opinions and they'll buy in to my assbackwards logic that led me to voting for a slaveowner in 2016"

Majorian posted:

Hahaha, okay, keep on blatantly trollin'.

the fact that Tulsi Gabbard is one of the better dems should concern you

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
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Inescapable Duck posted:

Amazing to see Democrats going full 'Don't touch the devil's lettuce!' in 2017

You do realise anti-drug laws are used to massively disproportionately jail and enslave African-Americans (and probably also Hispanics) while ignoring white people smoking the reefer, right?

Who do you think opposes weed legalization in this conversation?

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax
the left will win BIGLY if we just get more pragmatic! stop caring about things! vote for our updated algorithm!

here's a better idea, appeal to people who have a single issue that is compatible with what you want instead of whining about how people aren't as politically erudite as you

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
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NewForumSoftware posted:

stop caring about things!

Says the dude who thinks single-issue voters are good.

Fly away, little troll.

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Majorian posted:

Says the dude who thinks single-issue voters are good.

Fly away, little troll.

single issue voters are good if the issue is good

this really isn't that hard

lol at "you must be trolling to think I could possibly be incorrect about something"

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.
"I don't oppose x, I just oppose voting for it."

Ahh, the Democrats.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
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NewForumSoftware posted:

single issue voters are good if the issue is good

Nope. Weed legalization is good. People voting for Gary Johnson because he supported legalization was bad, because he supported many other very bad things.

You're correct that this isn't that hard.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
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FuriousxGeorge posted:

"I don't oppose x, I just oppose voting for it."

Ahh, the Democrats.

Not a thing anyone is arguing.

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Majorian posted:

Nope. Weed legalization is good. People voting for Gary Johnson because he supported legalization was bad, because he supported many other very bad things.

Maybe... just maybe... we could run a candidate that appeals to those people more than Gary Johnson?

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


like, the thought that booker, who was wringing his hands about the safety of canadian pharamaceuticals is gonna legalize weed in any worthwhile way is crazy to me

on the plus side, his primary opponent will likely support weed too and you guys can vote for the better weed supporting person

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
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NewForumSoftware posted:

Maybe... just maybe... we could run a candidate that appeals to those people more than Gary Johnson?

But that would require...people to vote on more than just one issue.:thunk:

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Condiv posted:

like, the thought that booker, who was wringing his hands about the safety of canadian pharamaceuticals is gonna legalize weed in any worthwhile way is crazy to me

that's because centrists literally believe that enshrining current policy into law is "pro-weed"

Majorian posted:

But that would require...people to vote on more than just one issue.:thunk:

what do you think happens to the single issue voter when both candidates agree on their issue?

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.

Majorian posted:

Nope. Weed legalization is good. People voting for Gary Johnson because he supported legalization was bad, because he supported many other very bad things.

You're correct that this isn't that hard.

As I said earlier, I'm the only that guy here and I didn't single issue vote on it. It kind of seems like you aren't arguing anything at all, just kind of having a tantrum.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo
White single-issue weed legalisation voters are always going to vote for the most libertarian candidate on the ticket, that's just a fact. Let's have at least some sanity in this thread.

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

FuriousxGeorge posted:

As I said earlier, I'm the only that guy here and I didn't single issue vote on it. It kind of seems like you aren't arguing anything at all, just kind of having a tantrum.

They are upset at single issue voters, who are only single issue voters because the Democrats are a waste and support nothing good. So you have anti-war people voting for Jill Stein and pro-weed people voting for Gary Johnson. This is evidence that single issue voters are "bad things"

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.

El Pollo Blanco posted:

White single-issue weed legalisation voters are always going to vote for the most libertarian candidate on the ticket, that's just a fact. Let's have at least some sanity in this thread.

Nope, any of them who aren't on board with Libertarian economics (this is a lot) would have voted for Bernie. Some of them voted for Stein too.

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

El Pollo Blanco posted:

White single-issue weed legalisation voters are always going to vote for the most libertarian candidate on the ticket, that's just a fact. Let's have at least some sanity in this thread.

Just repeat whatever you want over and over again and maybe it will become true?

Also nice job adding "White" into there. Real classy.

lol at being so out of touch that you think most libertarians are brought there by the rear end backwards economics and not the idea that people should be free to do things like smoke weed without being a criminal

libertarians appeal to single issue weed voters because they are the only party even willing to give them lip service

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


El Pollo Blanco posted:

White single-issue weed legalisation voters are always going to vote for the most libertarian candidate on the ticket, that's just a fact. Let's have at least some sanity in this thread.

it's not a good day for sanity in general. we have dem bigwigs claiming memes are russian psyops again

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
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NewForumSoftware posted:

what do you think happens to the single issue voter when both candidates agree on their issue?

You're assuming that the single issue voter realizes when both candidates agree on their issue. That's not always the case. Plenty of people who voted for Johnson probably would have gone with Stein or one of the socialist third party candidates if they knew anything about them, or understood how execrable Johnson's platform was.

Regardless, I've been pretty clear that I think the Dems need to be 100% behind legalization; voting for a candidate who is good on one issue but terrible on everything else is still a really stupid thing to do.

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NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Majorian posted:

You're assuming that the single issue voter realizes when both candidates agree on their issue. That's not always the case. Regardless, I've been pretty clear that I think the Dems need to be 100% behind legalization; voting for a candidate who is good on one issue but terrible on everything else is still a really stupid thing to do.

It would be better than voting for one candidate who was terrible on everything. Which was what we got in 2016.

Forgive me for being pragmatic.

Majorian posted:

You're assuming that the single issue voter realizes when both candidates agree on their issue. That's not always the case.

That's not a problem with single issue voters, that's a problem with people.

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