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Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know
Can we post more idiotic the_donald reactions? Holy lols.

quote:

It also could be bait for Rice and the globalists. Trump is extremely intelligent and to think he would let McMasters get the best of him is laughable, especially how blatant and in your face all this evidence is.

Tell me, if you had an employee like this with all this evidence, wouldn't you have fired them already? I get the feeling that McMasters is a double agent.

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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Lol I missed that Carter Page has been the subject of a FISA warrant since 2014.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

I was reading this piece by Jon Chait on McConnell's plan for tax reform/tax cuts fro the rich:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/mcconnell-tricked-into-admitting-he-wants-tax-cuts-for-rich.html

And one thing I don't get about this tax reform business is that allegedly, the idea is that we can lower tax rates by eliminating revenue. Some people have even went on to say that this would result in rich people paying more in taxes than they would have. But I never understood the rationale behind it. Because the whole point of this seems to be that taxes are too high on the job creators and so we need to lower them to be competitive worldwide or whatever. But if you lower the rates, but ALSO eliminate the loopholes, supposedly making them pay MORE in taxes, doesn't that defeat the entire drat purpose?

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

horse mans posted:

you're a loving idiot, there's no reason to believe that any organization save another government can resist attacks by a determined state actor

I don't disagree but this is deliciously bad:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/288944-leaked-dnc-email-mocks-story-about-weak-cybersecurity-at-dnc

Total Party Kill
Aug 25, 2005

Teddybear posted:

In this scenario, he would become president before the halfway point of Trump's first term (Jan 20, 2019-- Congress is sworn in two weeks earlier, and thus he wouldn't be speaker if the Dems won the house as this scenario suggests.) He would need to ascend to the presidency before Jan 6, 2019, which would mean he would serve more than half of Trump's first term, leaving him eligible for only one more term.

I think you have a point. I guess Ryan would really have to hate himself for this to be a possible future.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Taima posted:

Can we post more idiotic the_donald reactions? Holy lols.

please dont post from reddit unless you are trying to figure out which users are gop staff members

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


QuoProQuid posted:

please dont post from reddit unless you are trying to figure out which users are gop staff members

or representatives.... :lol:

bird cooch
Jan 19, 2007
The whole Trump/gop defense seems to be based on "he who smelt it, delt it"

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Condiv posted:

or representatives.... :lol:

as much as i would love to catch someone like rohrbacher on reddit, i think most members are too old to have any idea what it is.

wait another four or eight years when millennial start appearing on the national political scene and journalists start digging up old livejournal posts

Yureina
Apr 28, 2013

Yeap. I found this out recently. Really turns me off the Palestinian cause to find out they basically consist entirely of raging racists.

QuoProQuid posted:

as much as i would love to catch someone like rohrbacher on reddit, i think most members are too old to have any idea what it is.

wait another four or eight years when millennial start appearing on the national political scene and journalists start digging up old livejournal posts

Or perhaps their posts in threads like this one? :allears:

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

QuoProQuid posted:

as much as i would love to catch someone like rohrbacher on reddit, i think most members are too old to have any idea what it is.

wait another four or eight years when millennial start appearing on the national political scene and journalists start digging up old livejournal posts

Too late, a Republican State Representative was the founder of /r/redpill: http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-republican-lawmaker-who-secretly-created-reddits-women-hating-red-pill

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Yureina posted:

Or perhaps their posts in threads like this one? :allears:

yeah no poo poo.

"So, mr. fiz, we'd like to ask you some questions regarding your posts in laissez's faire.

To begin with, do you prefer stalin or mao?"

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Mr Interweb posted:

I was reading this piece by Jon Chait on McConnell's plan for tax reform/tax cuts fro the rich:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/mcconnell-tricked-into-admitting-he-wants-tax-cuts-for-rich.html

And one thing I don't get about this tax reform business is that allegedly, the idea is that we can lower tax rates by eliminating revenue. Some people have even went on to say that this would result in rich people paying more in taxes than they would have. But I never understood the rationale behind it. Because the whole point of this seems to be that taxes are too high on the job creators and so we need to lower them to be competitive worldwide or whatever. But if you lower the rates, but ALSO eliminate the loopholes, supposedly making them pay MORE in taxes, doesn't that defeat the entire drat purpose?

The argument is that a high marginal rate + many deductions and credits makes it so that companies spend a lot of time and money to try and find ways to classify their income in exempt ways.

If you lower the rate, but remove the deductions and credits, then they will end up paying more because they can't take as many deductions. Additionally, it becomes more economically efficient because larger firms won't have the advantage of putting more work into tax avoidance compared to smaller firms.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



yeah this is what i was referencing :D

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

De Niro for Mueller.

Total Party Kill
Aug 25, 2005

hiddenriverninja posted:

De Niro for Mueller.

ohhh you've changed my mind.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The argument is that a high marginal rate + many deductions and credits makes it so that companies spend a lot of time and money to try and find ways to classify their income in exempt ways.

If you lower the rate, but remove the deductions and credits, then they will end up paying more because they can't take as many deductions. Additionally, it becomes more economically efficient because larger firms won't have the advantage of putting more work into tax avoidance compared to smaller firms.

Eh...still sounds highly dubious to me. How many tax accountants do even large firms hire? Like 5? Somehow I doubt that the ability to lay off a few of them (they still have to keep a few around regardless) would make much of a difference.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
You would be surprised how many companies hire someone who costs as much or more than the tax breaks to find them. The idea being it'll eventually pay out.

It's not always a financial thing avoiding taxes, often it's an expression of emotion tied into financial trappings.

Which is why it's foolish to ever claim discussions about money are just 'practical'. They're ALWAYS steeped in moral judgements.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

hiddenriverninja posted:

De Niro for Mueller.

Yesssss!

La Brea Carpet
Nov 22, 2007

I have no mouth and I must post

Mr Interweb posted:

Eh...still sounds highly dubious to me. How many tax accountants do even large firms hire? Like 5? Somehow I doubt that the ability to lay off a few of them (they still have to keep a few around regardless) would make much of a difference.

They hire a firm that throws many attorneys and accountants at their books for thousands of billable hours. What do you think Ernst and Young does when they're not tallying the Grammy winners?

Yureina
Apr 28, 2013

Yeap. I found this out recently. Really turns me off the Palestinian cause to find out they basically consist entirely of raging racists.

FizFashizzle posted:

yeah no poo poo.

"So, mr. fiz, we'd like to ask you some questions regarding your posts in laissez's faire.

To begin with, do you prefer stalin or mao?"

Makes me think that Trump is only the beginning, and that our future political candidates will be full of embarrassing snippets from their past. I mean, is there any way to even properly hide your identity online? I don't think so. Therefore we will probably end up knowing far more about our future political figures than we ever wanted to know. Perhaps porn preferences will become a campaign issue?

Might be fun to watch.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

StrangersInTheNight posted:

You would be surprised how many companies hire someone who costs as much or more than the tax breaks to find them. The idea being it'll eventually pay out.

It's not always a financial thing avoiding taxes, often it's an expression of emotion tied into financial trappings.

Lawyers get involved for poo poo like estate planning too, since that's obviously part of the broader issue of tax avoidance. Presumably large businesses hire them to work with/oversee their accountants too though, particularly when dealing with offshore issues. Republicans aren't entirely wrong about the tax code being too complicated, though their desire to simplify is often just code for cut and/or flatten.

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

Taima posted:

Can we post more idiotic the_donald reactions? Holy lols.

Here you go

NewForumSoftware posted:

ahh i forgot that the dnc hack and the podesta hack were different things

hard to keep the democrat's failures straight these days

marshmonkey
Dec 5, 2003

I was sick of looking
at your stupid avatar
so
have a cool cat instead.

:v:
Switchblade Switcharoo
https://mobile.twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/892861063221329920

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Yureina posted:

Makes me think that Trump is only the beginning, and that our future political candidates will be full of embarrassing snippets from their past. I mean, is there any way to even properly hide your identity online? I don't think so. Therefore we will probably end up knowing far more about our future political figures than we ever wanted to know. Perhaps porn preferences will become a campaign issue?

Might be fun to watch.

the future is amish, boyo

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

holy god drat

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

QuoProQuid posted:

the future is amish, boyo

If anybody could out-scam The Donald, it's the Amish.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.
can we add this to the op

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLgNAeLx_HI

Spun Dog posted:

Here you go

Ha

Heck Yes! Loam! fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Aug 4, 2017

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture





hiddenriverninja posted:

De Niro for Mueller.

de nero is too old. it'll be clooney

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Yureina posted:

Makes me think that Trump is only the beginning, and that our future political candidates will be full of embarrassing snippets from their past. I mean, is there any way to even properly hide your identity online? I don't think so. Therefore we will probably end up knowing far more about our future political figures than we ever wanted to know. Perhaps porn preferences will become a campaign issue?

Might be fun to watch.

I bet one of Bernie's keywords is "female friendly". :3:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

loving Brutal

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Condiv posted:

if dems win in 2018, what's stopping the russia entangled peeps like trump from resigning before dems take office in 2019 and have ryan pardon him?

Condiv argued for pages in the Russia thread that Hillary Clinton took bribes from the Russian government and that's the REAL collusion because [Sean Hannity]. Just FYI.

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BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

There is no :stare: big enough

Edit: Also the article title: "Trump, America's Boy King"

http://www.newsweek.com/2017/08/11/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-gop-white-house-potus-bannon-643996.html

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT

Expect a tweet from Trump that says that Newsweek is failing, and that he has signed EOs which in his mind is legislation.

Also drat that's an awesome cover. I love how people are calling him out for not working and basically just being a couch potato that does jack poo poo besides stirring up controversy and insulting people.

Edit: HOLY poo poo THEY HAVE A BAG OF CHEETOS ON HIS LAP TOO!

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Your Taint posted:

Is Flynn even really relevant at this point? You can only scorch the earth so much.

At this point it seems like Trump's greatest asset is that he has completely surrounded himself with easy targets. It's the inept criminal equivalent of fish shoaling or antelope herding as an anti-predator adaptation.

If Mueller isn't careful in maintaining focus his team could easily get distracted piling charges onto people like Flynn and Carter Page, who if we continue the antelope analogy are at the edge of the herd rolling around on their backs too dumb to determine that running involves the hooves being on the ground instead of in the air.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.
Fun Shoe

That'll look great on the wall at Bedminster

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

the talent deficit posted:

de nero is too old. it'll be clooney

DeNiro is essentially the same age as Mueller.

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person


This is going to set him off big time.

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Holy loving poo poo.

This is amazing.

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


JeffersonClay posted:

Condiv argued for pages in the Russia thread that Hillary Clinton took bribes from the Russian government and that's the REAL collusion because [Sean Hannity]. Just FYI.

i didn't argue that, nor do i listen to sean hannity.

you did argue that people of color have a criminal culture in the bad dems thread though. i guess to illustrate the problems with bad dems :shrug:

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