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Pope Corky the IX posted:I understand what Roth's intent was, but once again, I ask you: Yeah, that scene couldn't possibly be commentary on how "powerful" women (think Thatcher, for instance) sell out their own gender for personal gain. It's just Roth jacking off and pretending it says something. Also, the superficial content of a film is more important than what the film is actually attempting to say. I have seen the light.
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I watched Sucker Punch last year and don't remember any panty shots. Or even high rise thongs.
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Neo Rasa posted:I respect what it goes going for but it's unfocused and too long ==== Holding on for dear life. Got it. What other reason would there be to bring up Sucker Punch while we're discussing poo poo like Death Wish and I Spit on Your Grave and Last House on the Left and the like? Once again, it's cute that you want to defend recent disgusting misogyny in cinema, but maybe keep to the living room while the adults are having an actual conversation about poo poo in film that has plagued mens' opinions for years now?
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Like I don't think the Hostel movies are very good, and I don't think Roth necessarily nails the message he's going for (honestly I actually agree with you about the superficial content of the film, and think it sort of undercuts the intended point), but if you don't think he was trying for a feminist message with 2 I seriously don't think we watched the same movie.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What other reason would there be to bring up Sucker Punch while we're discussing poo poo like Death Wish and I Spit on Your Grave and Last House on the Left and the like? I didn't bring it up.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Also, I'm really disappointed they went with that angle for the Death Wish remake, unrelatedly. I think you could get something very good out of, essentially, flipping the script racially, and making the protagonist a black guy who fights dirty cops and Nazi gangs rather than a white guy who guns down minorities.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Like I don't think the Hostel movies are very good, and I don't think Roth necessarily nails the message he's going for (honestly I actually agree with you about the superficial content of the film, and think it sort of undercuts the intended point), but if you don't think he was trying for a feminist message with 2 I seriously don't think we watched the same movie. So let me get this straight...the woman that manages to survive to the end of the film and castrates the male antagonist is somehow a hero? And this makes it a feminist film? After ninety minutes of watching naked women being slaughtered? Again, why are none of the men in the first Hostel naked? It's a simple loving question that none of you have even attempted to answer.
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Every time someone writes more than one paragraph on the film Sucker Punch an angel dies
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Again, why are none of the men in the first Hostel naked? It's a simple loving question that none of you have even attempted to answer. 
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Again, why are none of the men in the first Hostel naked? It's a simple loving question that none of you have even attempted to answer. Okay, I'll engage this: because explicit male nudity has been a taboo in cinema whereas female nudity is not, and this is only very very recently starting to change. If we weren't weird about dicks I'm pretty sure they would have been naked.
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Why the gently caress would anyone watch those movies, Jesus Christ that poo poo is horrific and disgusting
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Roth should only be attached to lovely horror films he's wrote himself. He has a delusional idea of what it means to be a male feminist in this century, and rails against anyone that has an issue with a scene like this:
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I'm sorry, is a man in boxer shorts somehow the same as a woman naked? Is that actually what you were trying to argue with that still? I mean, holy poo poo, NAKED means NAKED, you loving imbecile.
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Both Hostels are kind of boring movies honestly.
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Ammanas posted:Why the gently caress would anyone watch those movies, Jesus Christ that poo poo is horrific and disgusting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUHgz8KOzyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUD-x4WEFTA e: Oh we're talking about Hostel haha
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Ammanas posted:Why the gently caress would anyone watch those movies, Jesus Christ that poo poo is horrific and disgusting It's a laugh riot.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I'm sorry, is a man in boxer shorts somehow the same as a woman naked? Is that actually what you were trying to argue with that still? Sir this is a hostel....
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CelticPredator posted:Sir this is a hostel.... Haha, gently caress you. And thank you.
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in this post: a man outs himself as never actually seeing his own penis
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hello i am lestergroans i have been practicing art for a very long time and please look at my sketches of the nude male form *pulls out sketchbook* *flips through pages rapidly* *all the sketches are tracings fruit of the loom underwear models*
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I mean, holy poo poo, NAKED means NAKED, you loving imbecile. And always doesn't mean once.
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What's the closest a sequel has been released after the previous film? I can only think of Breakin', released in May 1984, which was followed by Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo, released in December 1984.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What's the closest a sequel has been released after the previous film? I can only think of Breakin', released in May 1984, which was followed by Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo, released in December 1984. I think the Matrix sequels were released in the same year.
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Iwo Jima and Flags of our Fathers?
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What era? Cause like the Range Busters franchise once released 8 films in a single year.
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Old series like the Blondie films would have like several entries a year, there were 4 in 1947. There were 9 Three Mesquiteers movies in 1938. There were 25 of Kwan Tak-Hing's Wong Fei-Hung movies released in 1956 (I think that whole series is 99 main films and a bunch of spinoffs)
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What's the closest a sequel has been released after the previous film? I can only think of Breakin', released in May 1984, which was followed by Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo, released in December 1984. Cannon Films actually owns this even beyond their own Breakin' films thanks to Missing in Action. They started production of the first and second Missing in Action movies at the same time and the sequel was finished first, which is why Missing in Action II: The Beginning takes place before Missing in Action. You can't beat the intended sequel getting released a solid year before the intended first installment! CANNON FILMS!
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CelticPredator posted:Both Hostels are kind of boring movies honestly.
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The first and second Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies were released almost a year to the day of one-another in '90 and '91, which is a longer period than some of the other movies mentioned here, but a loving crazy turnaround for an unplanned wide-release effects movie sequel when you factor in production time.
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Fart City posted:The first and second Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies were released almost a year to the day of one-another in '90 and '91, which is a longer period than some of the other movies mentioned here, but a loving crazy turnaround for an unplanned wide-release effects movie sequel when you factor in production time. It really shows how much cheaper and worse the effects folks were when they got a solid two years to do Turtles in Time but the turtles outfits were like noticeably awful compared to the Jim Henson suits in 1 and 2. Those suits were incredible. I know there's that second where Donatello speaks and you can see the actor's mouth inside the outfit's mouth, but they're still incredible work. Like they were really able to gives those suits a beating, get them wet/submerge them in water for some bits, it's crazy.
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The Police Academy movies had a super quick turnaround. The first one was released in March of 84, 2 in March of 85, 3 in March of 86, 4 in April of 87, 5 in March of 88 and 6 in March of 89. Also kind of goofy how it went from 1 being R, 2 being PG-13 and then the rest going down to just PG. Friday the 13th almost matches it but takes a year off between 3 and 4.
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The first two Lone Wolf and Cub movies were released 4 months apart. 4 total in one year.
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MacheteZombie posted:Didn't cined have this discussion once (many times) and someone went and looked up the number of panty shots to disprove the claim about panty shots? I think I'm remember that right haha I remember there was a goon years ago who counted up all the panty shots in the old cartoon Alvin and the Chipmunks movie. They rightfully got a costume title for it.
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CelticPredator posted:How many panty shots keep it from being feminist? You're allowed an average of one panty shot per woman with a spoken line. 
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Neo Rasa posted:Cannon Films actually owns this even beyond their own Breakin' films thanks to Missing in Action. They started production of the first and second Missing in Action movies at the same time and the sequel was finished first, which is why Missing in Action II: The Beginning takes place before Missing in Action. You can't beat the intended sequel getting released a solid year before the intended first installment! CANNON FILMS! That's right, because the production on the first one had gone badly and it looked like poo poo, while the 'sequel' looked pretty good. Poor Canon films, if they'd held out a year or two longer, video would have saved them.
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Tars Tarkas posted:Joe Carnahan was attached to the Death Wish remake and sent this to MGM head Jonathan Glickman after he left I think Eli Roth would be more forgiveable if he was somehow still a second time director. Like, if he was trapped in a time warp or something.
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Godzilla Raids Again came out about 5 months after the original. Son of Kong was also a rush job.
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The only way to get me to watch the Death Wish remake is to have Jeff Goldblum in a Jughead hat.Neo Rasa posted:The best thing about the documentary is the slowly building realization that Golan and Globus genuinely thought stuff like The Delta Force, Death Wish II, etc. were top of the line important cinema. Also that you can trace the modern pop-culture image of a terrorist as a threatening Muslim man to two Israeli dudes.
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MacheteZombie posted:hostel 1 at least has some homo-eroticism going for it Eh
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Guy Mann posted:Also that you can trace the modern pop-culture image of a terrorist as a threatening Muslim man to two Israeli dudes. Something amazing about that is how it was so brazen that there were people on mainstream TV news in the US in the 80s saying "this movie only exists to make Palestinians look bad it's awful," like THAT'S how bad it was. And the two dudes were super smug about the righteousness of Delta Force too.
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