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McNally posted:When this ghubDaQ hits 71 kellicams per vatlh, you're gonna see some serious baktag. Hopefully the Pakleds he stole the cha`pujqut from don't find him first...
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Gonz posted:Chakotay not missing any replicator rations these days. Eating with Raoul
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Gonz posted:Chakotay not missing any replicator rations these days. Lord he's practically handsome in comparison to some of the others of the era... And that's not even getting into Jennifer Lien and her crazy mental illness.
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Aug 4, 2017 04:12
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CaveGrinch posted:Lord he's practically handsome in comparison to some of the others of the era... I feel bad for Jennifer Lien. Last I saw her, she looked like she had spent a few years in the HoboRiker Insane-o-verse overrun by the Borg.
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Aug 4, 2017 04:13
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Is replicator food as bad as eating the actual food or do they science mumbo jumbo it so it's actually healthy for you
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Aug 4, 2017 04:14
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I'm sure replifood is scientifically calculated to be healthy as gently caress no matter what it is, so you could eat fudge sundaes all the time and still get a balanced macro split with the proper amount of calories you require, Deanna.
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Aug 4, 2017 04:18
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hiddenriverninja posted:Is replicator food as bad as eating the actual food or do they science mumbo jumbo it so it's actually healthy for you Troi has to specify as some point that she wants a real, full on bad for you version of a Chocolate sundae so yeah, looks like it makes healthy versions by default.
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Aug 4, 2017 04:19
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I'm sure replifood is scientifically calculated to be healthy as gently caress no matter what it is, so you could eat fudge sundaes all the time and still get a balanced macro split with the proper amount of calories you require, Deanna. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu3qDNnPKSs
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Aug 4, 2017 04:20
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Episode over. They did the Star Trek hand. Speaking of which, why did Sarek say Spock's name? Sarek followed in his father's footsteps professionally and was unhappy (wounded, I guess) when Spock left to join Starfleet. According to TOS Sarek didn't speak to Spock for 17 years after he joined Starfleet, and once they were on speaking terms it was another 18 years before Sarek admitted maybe he had been in the wrong. Spock and Sarek eventually patched up their relationship but you get the sense in "Sarek" that Sarek deeply regrets his distant relationship with his son.
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There's a real-life substance that tastes identical to sugar but the body can't metabolize, it's just expensive as gently caress to make (it's the same molecule as sugar, just reversed). Presumably it's no harder for the replicator to make than real sugar though
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remusclaw posted:Troi has to specify as some point that she wants a real, full on bad for you version of a Chocolate sundae so yeah, looks like it makes healthy versions by default. Looks like chocolate, tastes like chocolate, smells like chocolate, but it's actually kale.
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Delsaber posted:Looks like chocolate, tastes like chocolate, smells like chocolate, but it's actually kale. Buncha filthy space liberals
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Speaking of replicated food, I wonder if it's actually "not as good as real food" or if that's just grumpy "things were better in the old days" whining. There was some explanation along the lines of "replicated food is always the exact same thing every time" but it seems like it'd be pretty easy to ask the computer to give you minor variations of a recipe each time you order something to simulate that "real chef's touch."
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cheetah7071 posted:There's a real-life substance that tastes identical to sugar but the body can't metabolize, it's just expensive as gently caress to make (it's the same molecule as sugar, just reversed). Presumably it's no harder for the replicator to make than real sugar though You mean L-glucose. It also happens to be a laxative...
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Aug 4, 2017 05:22
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Those videos of people eating Haribo sugar free gummy bears as a challenge and then screaming holy hell from the toilet will never not be funny
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Arglebargle III posted:You mean L-glucose. It also happens to be a laxative... I did not know that! I'm sure there's something you can mix with it to fix that though, or will be by the 24th century Or they could just eat whatever unhealthy poo poo they want and beam the extra fat into space
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Pakled posted:Speaking of replicated food, I wonder if it's actually "not as good as real food" or if that's just grumpy "things were better in the old days" whining. There was some explanation along the lines of "replicated food is always the exact same thing every time" but it seems like it'd be pretty easy to ask the computer to give you minor variations of a recipe each time you order something to simulate that "real chef's touch." I imagine it probably takes up a lot of data storage to store a recipe, so while on Earth there's a database with a thousand tiny variants of a ham sandwich it can rotate through, on the Enterprise, data storage is at more of a premium so you don't get the same variety.
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You could probably replicate the raw ingredients and cook them yourself and not miss out on much if that's what's going on
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Pakled posted:Speaking of replicated food, I wonder if it's actually "not as good as real food" or if that's just grumpy "things were better in the old days" whining. There was some explanation along the lines of "replicated food is always the exact same thing every time" but it seems like it'd be pretty easy to ask the computer to give you minor variations of a recipe each time you order something to simulate that "real chef's touch." This is basically my theory as well. The replicated food taste perfectly fine, they're just all spoiled as gently caress and have nostalgia goggles for the concept of cooking.
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Pakled posted:Speaking of replicated food, I wonder if it's actually "not as good as real food" or if that's just grumpy "things were better in the old days" whining. There was some explanation along the lines of "replicated food is always the exact same thing every time" but it seems like it'd be pretty easy to ask the computer to give you minor variations of a recipe each time you order something to simulate that "real chef's touch." Nobody on DS9 seemed to complain about replicated Klingon coffee.
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I wonder what cool new foods molecular chefs could come up with by directly messing with replicator schematics rather than starting from real food
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Probably the worst thing about replicated food is if you ask for a steak you get the exact same steak every time.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:"AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE TO FIND MY WOMEN ON THE HOLODECK" The ultimate loving slam on Geordi. Owned by Wesley Crusher.
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The food thing goes back to Charlie X KIRK: On Earth today, it's Thanksgiving. If the crew has to eat synthetic meat loaf, I want it to look like turkey. I'm thinking it comes from NASA in the 60s. Astronauts snuck a corned beef sandwich onto a Gemini mission because they didn't like "bite-sized cubes, freeze-dried powders, and tubes of semiliquids." They even had a congressional meeting about it. So once TOS (and real life) kinda established that space food sucked, TNG had to follow that even though it had better technology. Plus it is always fun for writers to have the characters bitch about food, it is an easy way to make them relatable.
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I'm too lazy to even load my Kindle app to suss out the precise wording from the technical manual*, but the worst part about replicated food is that after the recycling systems get rid of the unsafe bits when you poo poo, the reminder gets shunted back to the generic mass that all replicated food comes from. * Yes, the first book I bought for it was the Technical Manual. I have really fond memories of thumbing through that book as a kid.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I'm sure replifood is scientifically calculated to be healthy as gently caress no matter what it is, so you could eat fudge sundaes all the time and still get a balanced macro split with the proper amount of calories you require, Deanna. I don't know how you could do this without at the very least changing the textures of foods.
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After every meal, O'brien beams out the unhealthy food and beams a healthy nutrient smoothee into your stomach
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cheetah7071 posted:After every meal, O'brien beams out the unhealthy food and beams a healthy nutrient smoothee into your stomach this is some hosed up space bulimia I could get behind
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Spoeank posted:this is some hosed up space bulimia I could get behind Hell, same. Jeb! Repetition posted:I don't know how you could do this without at the very least changing the textures of foods. Nanomachines, son!
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I don't know how you could do this without at the very least changing the textures of foods. I wonder if replicators have a randomizer mode, or some kind of "surprise me," based on your past taste profiles, mode. Or if replicated meat/dairy/whatever "counts" as vegetarian or not. If the steak you're eating is based on a cow that got slaughtered and carefully prepared 120 years ago on a planet you've never visited, just how culpable are you in its suffering?
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Nessus posted:It'd make sense that it's probably part of why people (who don't neccessarily know about the computer's staff dietary program tracker, or forget about it, because what do you care, you're in Stellar Cartography) think replicator food sucks. I imagine they have all kinds of tricks and alternatives. That's sort of relevant to modern day lab meat too. Which I do consider vegetarian.
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The replicators have over 200 different types of cat food.
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So if Sarek getting alzheimer's is based on Roddenberry, is his rear end in a top hat black-clothed assistant based on that prick lawyer who represented Roddenberry and everybody involved in TNG hated?
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:The replicators have over 200 different types of cat food. Only cause Data doesn't sleep and that's what he spends all his downtime doing. 
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Delsaber posted:Looks like chocolate, tastes like chocolate, smells like chocolate, but it's actually kale. The one thing I chuckled at in that garbage libertarian star trek youtube thing was him trying to order food from the replicator.
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Nessus posted:The technical manual suggests that while there are a few things that are hard to replicate, like some spices coming out mildly toxic, for the most part it's pretty good, and it is thought that people turning up their noses were being snobs. I imagine some of it is that it isn't necessarily full of something NEW, and the kind of people we run into tend to be the sort of people who would bitch about that. Polyester canonically catches fire when it goes through a transporter, so probably there's a ton of dumb poo poo that just doesn't work
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On the topic of foodchat: how exactly is Synthehol supposed to work? I know it was originally and nebulously billed as "alcohol but without the negative effects", but does that mean you're not supposed to get shitfaced from it? Or you can get shitfaced, but you subconsciously have control over your sobriety and can instantly snap out of it when you need to? Or does it just not give you a hangover?
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You just don't get drunk. Everything is O'Douls
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Drone posted:On the topic of foodchat: how exactly is Synthehol supposed to work? I know it was originally and nebulously billed as "alcohol but without the negative effects", but does that mean you're not supposed to get shitfaced from it? Or you can get shitfaced, but you subconsciously have control over your sobriety and can instantly snap out of it when you need to? Or does it just not give you a hangover?
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cheetah7071 posted:There's a real-life substance that tastes identical to sugar but the body can't metabolize, it's just expensive as gently caress to make (it's the same molecule as sugar, just reversed). Presumably it's no harder for the replicator to make than real sugar though There's also cyclamate, which was the first sugar substitute to be used in diet soft drinks. Of course, they banned it in the US in the late '60s for being a carcinogen, but it's since come out that those studies were paid for by the sugar lobby and they were essentially feeding monkeys the same amount of cyclamate you'd get by chugging 40+ cans of TaB a day, so who knows how dangerous it actually is.
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