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theflyingorc posted:Most of the special elections have seen 12-15 point swings over last November. The motivation seems to be there, it just has to make it another 15 months. also, if he enacted his agenda at all
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evilweasel posted:i think that the internet amplifies idiots so you're seeing the worst brand of berniebro. there are plenty of people who like bernie but who aren't condiv-level idiot brokebrains. most of them voted for jill stein anyway. I think that the theoretical impact of Bernie's supporters is amplfiied by the fact that more of them are on the internet. Which is why in reality there wasn't even enough of them to get him the nomination.
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evilweasel posted:i think it's a mistake to think that the midterm electorate is fixed and is going to be the same as the 2010/2014 electorate Dems lost the House popular vote in 2016 by 1.1% and won it in 2012 by 1.2%. I believe the figure you've cited they need is 7%. I'm not saying they can't take the house, i'm just saying pretending it's an off year problem is objectively wrong.
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to be clear, because my statement was not at all, it's the condiv-level idiot brokebrains who voted for jill stein, not the vast majority of bernie people, i realize looking at that post it says the exact opposite
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Aug 4, 2017 15:50
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https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/893450874948911104 Trump retweeted that. James Woof is an idiot
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What a loving flaming diarrhea bad take
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Aug 4, 2017 15:51
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Dems took the House in 2006, an off year.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:52
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farraday posted:Dems lost the House popular vote in 2016 by 1.1% and won it in 2012 by 1.2%. I believe the figure you've cited they need is 7%. under the obama administration dems did significantly worse in off-year elections. it wasn't solely an off-year election problem. what i'm saying is, i do not think that pattern from the obama years necessarily holds up, so we do not need to assume that 2018 will be a worse electorate. it might be, but the factors that made it a lot worse for democrats in 2010 and 2014 now point in different directions. that, alone, won't fix things of course because as you point out just getting back to presidential-year electorate still didn't retake the house.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:53
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Mustached Demon posted:Dems took the House in 2006, an off year. Hopefully we can get Trump to reinvade Iraq and try to privatize social security before 2018.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:53
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Hopefully we can get Trump to reinvade Iraq and try to privatize social security. trump just tried to gut americans' health insurance, but much more visibly than bush did re: privatizing social security, and got everyone in the house and senate to go on the record on it while bush's proposal never even got a vote so republicans could pretend they didn't support it
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Hopefully we can get Trump to reinvade Iraq and try to privatize social security before 2018. Still got like 1.7 hurricane seasons left, too, don't forget that. Edit: Closer to 2 full seasons left. June-Nov I guess? Mustached Demon fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Aug 4, 2017 15:55
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twice burned ice posted:The thread that posts up-to-the-minute Trump tweets didn't discuss the big development in the Mueller investigation. Yup. You're the first one to post it. This thread is 50% diet chat and 50% "republicans are better than democrats" chat, why would anyone assume anyone actually mentioned real news?
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pillsburysoldier posted:https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/893450874948911104 James Woods is a narcissistic bigot who hounded a man until and after he died, because the guy dared to say something mean about him, iirc. Found it. Koalas March fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:This thread is 50% diet chat and 50% "republicans are better than democrats" chat, why would anyone assume anyone actually mentioned real news? Did I miss diet chat? Keto diets are dumb.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:56
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lol has he always had that small blue diamond? It's really funny that his organization has been verified but he himself has not been.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:56
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Reik posted:Did I miss diet chat? Keto diets are dumb. Agreed. Caveman or nothing.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Agreed. Caveman or nothing. Caveman diets only work if you spend hours persistence hunting the animal down before eating it.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:58
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https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/893450574045302784 Assange is shameless to an absurd degree
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Mustached Demon posted:Dems took the House in 2006, an off year. Granted, this was before the surgically precise gerrymandering that took place after the 2010 census.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:58
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Xombie posted:They they can be the biggest group of pretend voters all they want. Until they actually have an impact on something, the DNC is better off not alienating actual midterm voters by pandering to them. Xombie posted:I don't doubt that. I just doubt that millenials will come out to vote, which is where most of the Bernie crowd lies. Berniebros have shown themselves to be ideological purists, and you can't actually get one vote from without turning off two Gen-X/Boomer swing voters. And even then it's a coin toss as to whether they'll show up.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:59
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DrSunshine posted:Have you guys talked about the grand jury that's been convened for the Trump-Russia thing? "According to Reuters news agency, the special counsel is examining whether anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign encouraged the Russians to start releasing material about the Clinton campaign." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNa2B5zHfbQ
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Aug 4, 2017 15:59
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Today is Obama's birthday. I miss that man. 
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Koalas March posted:James Woods is a narcissistic bigot who hounded a man until and after he died, because the guy dared to say something mean about him, iirc. that mans name was peter griffin, rip
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Aug 4, 2017 16:01
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Javes posted:Granted, this was before the surgically precise gerrymandering that took place after the 2010 census. the house was strongly gerrymandered in 2000 as well, democrats believed they couldn't retake it until 2008, bush was just that loving bad that he bumped the timeline up
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Aug 4, 2017 16:01
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aware of dog posted:https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/893450574045302784 I hope he goes to jail. This is inexcusably blatant.
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Aug 4, 2017 16:01
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Liu posted:that mans name was peter griffin, rip Actually it was that one non-Snake quickie mart robber that said he was a singer before shooting at him. Erotically I posted:I hope he goes to jail. This is inexcusably blatant. It really bugs me that another country is allowing him to sit in their embassy and push this stuff which is obviously designed to destabilize our government. I get asylum but I don't understand why that means allowing him free reign in this manner. I guess that's somewhat hypocritical considering our own alphabet agencies but it's still something that bugs me. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Aug 4, 2017 16:02
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aware of dog posted:https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/893450574045302784 What a piece of poo poo
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Aug 4, 2017 16:02
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Erotically I posted:I hope he goes to jail. This is inexcusably blatant. is he still effectively locked in the Ecuadorian embassy, even though he outlasted his rape charges? I feel like I've got a memory that the UK said they were still going to arrest him for fleeing from justice or the like.
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Aug 4, 2017 16:03
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evilweasel posted:the house was strongly gerrymandered in 2000 as well, democrats believed they couldn't retake it until 2008, bush was just that loving bad that he bumped the timeline up You're not wrong, but I was under the impression that the sheer amount of voter/precinct data in the hands of Republican analysts was much greater than what was available in 2000 for Democrats. I'd have to imagine this allowed their efforts to be more effective.
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Aug 4, 2017 16:04
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Sessions is speaking right now about finding those dirty leakers. He's announcing some kind of task force?
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Aug 4, 2017 16:05
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business hammocks posted:Sessions is speaking right now about finding those dirty leakers. He's announcing some kind of task force? Does this task force wear white hoods and burn lower case 't's on their lawns to tell them "time to stop leaking"? Keep Kommunications Konfidential
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business hammocks posted:Sessions is speaking right now about finding those dirty leakers. He's announcing some kind of task force?
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Erotically I posted:I hope he goes to jail. This is inexcusably blatant. Are there any repercussions of this, or is that covered by 1st amendment stuff?
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Javes posted:Granted, this was before the surgically precise gerrymandering that took place after the 2010 census. My point's that you should not go all woe is me despair for midterms unless Trump actually does... well... something other than appoint judges I guess?
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Aug 4, 2017 16:07
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He reads off the page in the monotone staccato style of a middle-school kid. Jesus.
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Javes posted:You're not wrong, but I was under the impression that the sheer amount of voter/precinct data in the hands of Republican analysts was much greater than what was available in 2000 for Democrats. I'd have to imagine this allowed their efforts to be more effective. yeah, the gerrymander was broader and more effective if dems retake control of the government in 2020 the first thing they should do is immediately ban gerrymandering (which congress has the power to do). i'm worried though that there will be just enough representatives from NY/California/etc who might owe their seats to democratic gerrymandering to make it impossible or, lock in a pro-democratic gerrymander for a decade i suppose, that is good too
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evilweasel posted:yeah, the gerrymander was broader and more effective Lock in a pro-democratic gerrymander so republicans get all hissy pissy about it and do the leg work getting rid of it?
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California banned gerrymandering a while ago, districts are now drawn by an independent commission. In practice it ended up reinforcing the dem majority here, lol
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CyberPingu posted:Are there any repercussions of this, or is that covered by 1st amendment stuff?
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