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fadam
Apr 23, 2008

inferis posted:

It's a little bit weird that so many people are demanding proof when none of this has even been a call to action to stop liking him or whatever. There's a lot of people who have done bad things that make content you like and it's not retroactively all garbage suddenly. Like, people still like Bill Murray and he's had multiple exes talk about him being physically violent.

You aren't a better consumer just because the people you like have or haven't done bad things.

Nick is basically a fourth McElroy brother and staff on the wokest gaming website around. Not being a woman respecter is bad for business, and is probably a huge deal breaker for tons of his fans.

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inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Yeah all of that is real and valid but what I was getting at is that the victims have no obligation to share and the fans have no entitlement to that information if it isn't available.

E: and also this kind of thing has happened often enough that the people who are concerned about the politics of creators would be able to recognize this pattern because this is always how it goes

inferis fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Aug 4, 2017

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

inferis posted:

Yeah all of that is real and valid but what I was getting at is that the victims have no obligation to share and the fans have no entitlement to that information if it isn't available.

I don't think any reasonable person could disagree with this. I think its fine to want more information, but obviously rando fans on the internet don't deserve to be kept in the loop.

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003

I don't think Kessler and Navarro are rush to throw people under the bus people. If the multiple allegations aren't enough for you, I personally think that should be.

E: Especially because Kessler basically did Podburglars on a look the other way basis as he's not supposed to be doing that kind of thing in his role for Sony. He got messed up on this, hard.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




my opinion will be whatever Travis says because he's 100% legit

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

well why not posted:

my opinion will be whatever Travis says because he's 100% legit

Travis' opinion is that you should donate to his GoFundMe campaign to start a convention about Podcasts involving people named Nick.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Next we'll discover that Travis is a cannibal and Justin desecrates native american burial grounds in his spare time.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

https://twitter.com/PackBenPack/status/893571089267212288

Whelp

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

DOOMocrat posted:

Oh, it's like a direct replay of the Harrison Mooney incident.

http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/harrison-mooney-is-the-internets-biggest-creep/

Well that cold sucks. I hope for as little suffering for all parties as possible.

Don't click this link! I did, and my head was blasted off my shoulders by the pressure of the skeez wave blasting out of my monitor. Uuuuugh.

Has anyone ever told you how beautiful your lips are? Well, I thought a twitter DM would be the best way to let you know that I want to have them-you! I want to have you. I mean, take you. I mean, date you.

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Number of sexual assault allegations made against members of Cum Town: 0

Number of sexual assault allegations made against members of the McElroy Family Podcasting Empire: more than 0

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
If the Krystal tweet led to all this, I shudder to think what Griffin's vore fetish will inevitably open up to.

Serf
May 5, 2011


fadam posted:

Number of sexual assault allegations made against members of Cum Town: 0

Number of sexual assault allegations made against members of the McElroy Family Podcasting Empire: more than 0

This is a quality own.

Cael
Feb 2, 2004

I get this funky high on the yellow sun.

Who What Now posted:

Travis' opinion is that you should donate to his GoFundMe campaign to start a convention about Podcasts involving people named Nick.

fadam posted:

Number of sexual assault allegations made against members of Cum Town: 0

Number of sexual assault allegations made against members of the McElroy Family Podcasting Empire: more than 0


Petition to replace Nick Robinson with Nick Mullen for all Polygon properties.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

the other (gigantic) shoe has dropped

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
Ugh this really sucks.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


So, given Griffin's comments on Rose Buddies about The Bachelor and what they're doing about Bachelor in Paradise... I'm guessing CoolGamesInc is pretty much done.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




the more you think about it the more it makes sense. ex-fatty anime nerd with a famous brother and pretty sudden fame and notoriety in a niche industry treating women poorly isn't exactly a total shock.

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003

He is pretty new to heterosexuality. No excuses, of course.

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Oh, there's no way Nick is going to be involved with any McElroy projects ever again. CGI is dead, and I wouldn't be overly surprised if he resigns from Polygon in the next few weeks.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Whatever he tweets next the reaction is gonna be big.

Waterbed Wendy
Jan 29, 2009
there's always one gross loser dude that has to ruin it for everybody

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Now the hot tub episodes seem pretty gross in retrospect.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Waterbed Wendy posted:

there's always one gross loser dude that has to ruin it for everybody

in this thread that's me

Green Bean
May 3, 2009

standard owl posted:

I just listened to the MBMBaM ep where the brothers absolutely tear into a question-asker who wants to know the """best""" way to hit on girls while he's driving by in his car, and it was a little bit sad how happy and relieved I felt over this act of basic loving human decency

Do you have the episode number on hand? I'm working my way through the archives backwards, but this seems like something one that'd be appropriate to skip to.

TheWorstAtWords
May 27, 2012

Al Borland Corp. posted:

So, given Griffin's comments on Rose Buddies about The Bachelor and what they're doing about Bachelor in Paradise... I'm guessing CoolGamesInc is pretty much done.

I could see Cool Games Inc. continuing with Simone or Pat or someone replacing Nick, though I'd probably rather they just kill it and let Griffin do something else. I'd like to think the McElroys are probably done with Nick at this point and are remaining silent due to corporate stuff at Vox/Polygon or something like that since it seems like no one at Polygon has said anything about the whole ordeal.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


fadam posted:

Oh, there's no way Nick is going to be involved with any McElroy projects ever again. CGI is dead, and I wouldn't be overly surprised if he resigns from Polygon in the next few weeks.

I give the McElroy's HUGE credit because they went from kinda dumb bros to three very generous and compassionate people.

They can afford this sort of shame-by-proxy and will need to move fast on sending out their message as soon as it is appropriate.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

If there's one lesson to be learned from the situation, it's this: always optimize your Switch ports

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea like, even if you think it's a 'lesser' thing compared to other possible scandals, he's literally known for associations with MBMBAM and Polygon, two venues that are super big on 'hey we at the very least try to be respectful of others and we genuinely do take making our audience and people feel welcome and safe as a priority'. Griffin was willing to drop a podcast project because the producers of an already scummy reality show were willing to look the other way at someone taking advantage of a drunk person, there's no way a dude who's probably currently being outed as a serial harasser is gonna stay his bff. I don't know about the future for poo poo like CGI but Nick is probably gonna get dumped in the shame hole and frankly that's how that should go.

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

Please Retweet: We Are Publicly Executing the Bad Man Nick Robinson, Please Help It Go Viral Nintendo (And Also This Toad)

Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
Replace CGI with more Amiibo Corner.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

I mean the Polygon team are, as of today, also on their corporate retreat or whatever to the burning hellscape that is Portland, which could also explain the lack of speedy commentary on this issue. Not sure how many folks are away for that though.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Having listened to some of their earkier episodes recently, I was surprised to find they didn't seem particularly like dumb bros. They always call their past selves out, but the closest I really heard was Griffin's "forever alone" schtick.

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

The thing nobody is talking about is that if he is a "missing stair" and his creepiness was the worst kept secret in gaming journalism or whatever, why did Griffin and Polygon keep associating with him?

I get he's friends with them, but his behavior is directly at odds with Polygon's mandate and the social positioning the McElroy brothers have been doing since Adventure Zone really took off.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Hubbardologist posted:

I mean the Polygon team are, as of today, also on their corporate retreat or whatever to the burning hellscape that is Portland, which could also explain the lack of speedy commentary on this issue. Not sure how many folks are away for that though.

lol are they really? That rules, cool time for this to hit.


Al Borland Corp. posted:

Having listened to some of their earkier episodes recently, I was surprised to find they didn't seem particularly like dumb bros. They always call their past selves out, but the closest I really heard was Griffin's "forever alone" schtick.

They are SUPER hard on themselves. They make a couple of eye-rolly jokes and all and yea pre-Rachel Griffin clearly had some loneliness/social anxiety issues going on but they make it sound like every other question was met with 'PFFFT I DUNNO QUEER SOUNDS LIKE A STUPID PROBLEM' the way they get down on themselves. It's kinda adorable.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


fadam posted:

The thing nobody is talking about is that if he is a "missing stair" and his creepiness was the worst kept secret in gaming journalism or whatever, why did Griffin and Polygon keep associating with him?

I get he's friends with them, but his behavior is directly at odds with Polygon's mandate and the social positioning the McElroy brothers have been doing since Adventure Zone really took off.

From all the tweets going around it seems like it was the worst kept secret with women, but most guys who knew him seem legitimately shocked.

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003



https://twitter.com/PackBenPack/status/893573721222389760

1.) Ben is obvs not The Real Victim here.

2.) Man I feel for Ben.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

fadam posted:

The thing nobody is talking about is that if he is a "missing stair" and his creepiness was the worst kept secret in gaming journalism or whatever, why did Griffin and Polygon keep associating with him?

I get he's friends with them, but his behavior is directly at odds with Polygon's mandate and the social positioning the McElroy brothers have been doing since Adventure Zone really took off.

we super don't know the deets of this level and s others have said coming forward with this stuff can be really hard so it's entirely possible his reputation was mainly a bunch of isolated victims just thinking 'man gently caress that guy' and sharing with friends who wouldn't be able to leak it and trace it back to them in the industry.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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This Nick stuff is hitting pretty close to home to me because a similar situation played out in one of my personal circles like... 7 years ago or w/e. I ended up leaving a gaming group and then heard a year later that one of the admins of the space had been sexually harassing every single woman there and it had only come out when someone finally said something, leading to every other woman currently involved going 'wait, you too???'

I was pretty hesitant earlier because things were vague! But if one of his close personal friends is breaking ties over stuff that was told and shown to them in confidence then yeah, Nick is not someone I'm comfortable with anymore.

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy

DOOMocrat posted:

https://twitter.com/PackBenPack/status/893573721222389760

1.) Ben is obvs not The Real Victim here.

2.) Man I feel for Ben.

Who is Ben.

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Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Al Borland Corp. posted:

From all the tweets going around it seems like it was the worst kept secret with women, but most guys who knew him seem legitimately shocked.

Kessler and Ben at least legitimately seemed to not have known so I doubt Griffin did

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