Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
(Thread IKs: Captain Foo)
How do you feel about Archnemesis mods on rares?
Incredibly fun, I love them!
They're alright
Needs more work
Almost as much fun as shoving a red hot nail under my fingernail
Other (post below)
View Results
 
  • Post
  • Reply
tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



A tragedy in 3 (10) acts

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Ixjuvin
Aug 8, 2009

if smug was a motorcycle, it just jumped over a fucking canyon
Nap Ghost

uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:

scorching ray & righteous fire iron will inquisitor is a sick build, gently caress however ziggyd is doing it. all you need is a Doon's and a Rise of the Phoenix and a buttload of strength

what this is the build i've been planning on doing for months god drat IT ZIGGY

MY PRICES

Keru
Aug 2, 2004

'n suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us 'n the sky was full of what looked like 'uge bats, all swooping 'n screeching 'n divin' around the ute.
Queue's up again

and the claw won!
Jul 10, 2008
i'm in queue once again

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
And yet again they are completly overwhelmed by the surprisingly high number of players trying to connect exactly at launch of the greatest update the game has ever had, and nobody could have forseen it would come to this and planned in advance.
Especially since it happened in like what, every single major content update ever?

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

eonwe posted:

ill probably bug you on steam from time to time if thats ok

anytime

ICR
Dec 31, 2008

Soothing Vapors posted:

seriously

temp ban anyone who's dropped less than 1K on this game, tia

Got a 4K tV I'm ready to do this

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


Yolomon Wayne posted:

And yet again they are completly overwhelmed by the surprisingly high number of players trying to connect exactly at launch of the greatest update the game has ever had, and nobody could have forseen it would come to this and planned in advance.
Especially since it happened in like what, every single major content update ever?

Or they're aware that the extra cost required to handle this one (less than 24 hour long) spike in playerbase is more than the opportunity cost in whatever lost income the problems cause.

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Can I make it to Hillock before the servers die again?

psy.Che
Feb 23, 2011
As somebody working in IT, it really baffles the gently caress out of me how this kind of thing is still happening in 2017. Just use any big cloud vendor (AWS, MS Azure,...), make repeated large scale perf tests beforehand, have their support on stand by and hugely oversize your resources at first cause it's incredibly easy to reduce them if need be.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Yolomon Wayne posted:

And yet again they are completly overwhelmed by the surprisingly high number of players trying to connect exactly at launch of the greatest update the game has ever had, and nobody could have forseen it would come to this and planned in advance.
Especially since it happened in like what, every single major content update ever?

There's a reason why every major company with specialists and "infinite money" as people like to put still face this exact same issue frequently. It's really, really hard to set these things up and like Agent355 said it's more realistic to do what every company does which is let this poo poo happen for one day, try to scale things up while some people give up on the initial rush as well, and then everything is back to normal.

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

Agent355 posted:

Or they're aware that the extra cost required to handle this one (less than 24 hour long) spike in playerbase is more than the opportunity cost in whatever lost income the problems cause.

while we are queueing, your lp of la mulana got me to play it. thanks

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

funmanguy posted:

while we are queueing, your lp of la mulana got me to play it. thanks

that game owns

LordNat
May 16, 2009

psy.Che posted:

As somebody working in IT, it really baffles the gently caress out of me how this kind of thing is still happening in 2017. Just use any big cloud vendor (AWS, MS Azure,...), make repeated large scale perf tests beforehand, have their support on stand by and hugely oversize your resources at first cause it's incredibly easy to reduce them if need be.

It can be tiny things tho. Like some operation fails 0.01% of the time and makes a 2 sec lag in the server connection. Not a big deal on beta servers as that lag is just a speed bump that they hardly notice. Massive server load and that start stacking up till it is a title wave that crashes the server.

Might also just be a bottle neck issue with their local backbone supplier.

Only way to know is if they do a report on it for us.

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

eonwe posted:

that game owns

yeah, I never would have played it, or at least not gotten very far.

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


funmanguy posted:

yeah, I never would have played it, or at least not gotten very far.

Glad you enjoyed it. I'm still waiting for La Mulana 2 to come out so I can LP that as well.

psy.Che
Feb 23, 2011

Elentor posted:

There's a reason why every major company with specialists and "infinite money" as people like to put still face this exact same issue frequently. It's really, really hard to set these things up and like Agent355 said it's more realistic to do what every company does which is let this poo poo happen for one day, try to scale things up while some people give up on the initial rush as well, and then everything is back to normal.

Nope. Many companies have no issues handling this, it's just that nobody talks about all the launches etc. that went well. You shouldn't even be building this kind of infrastructure as a small company like GGG, have people who know what they are doing host it for you. And of course it's bullshit to just let it happen. You aimed all your marketing at this one moment, you have the attention of hordes of potential customers for one day and you do certainly not want to blow it.

uhhhhahhhhohahhh
Oct 9, 2012

Ixjuvin posted:

what this is the build i've been planning on doing for months god drat IT ZIGGY

MY PRICES

no this was my build in Legacy, i don't know how Ziggy is doing it. probably some boring as way with a 6 link

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?
Everyone please, this is the la mulana thread now, be respectful

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.

Agent355 posted:

Glad you enjoyed it. I'm still waiting for La Mulana 2 to come out so I can LP that as well.

Are you sure getting into PoE right now isn't just the first puzzle in La Mulana 2?

Acht
Aug 13, 2012

WORLD'S BEST
E-DAD

psy.Che posted:

As somebody working in IT, i

*snickers*

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

psy.Che posted:

As somebody working in IT,

tell me more

uhhhhahhhhohahhh
Oct 9, 2012
the servers are outsourced onto office365

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


George posted:

Are you sure getting into PoE right now isn't just the first puzzle in La Mulana 2?

Everytime I get into the dungeon I accidentally use the holy grail and end up talking to loving zelpuz on the lo gin screen.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

Agent355 posted:

Or they're aware that the extra cost required to handle this one (less than 24 hour long) spike in playerbase is more than the opportunity cost in whatever lost income the problems cause.

Im totally aware that they just dont give a gently caress about launch day, I mean we all knew it was gonna happen and we all hoped against hope it would be different this time.
I just thought for the big ultimate 3.0 release theyd put a little more effort in.

Ougher
Jan 16, 2005
So I don't break funman law.

theshim posted:

gently caress you funman

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




quote:

We have a theory about what's causing the realm crash. We're doing one more restart and we're pretty confident that it will fix it.

psy.Che
Feb 23, 2011

uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:

the servers are outsourced onto office365

All their databases are Excel online sheets saved on a OneDrive.

Twist And Pout!
Sep 3, 2011
thank god I bought a Nintendo Switch™ - now I can play video games at my gaming computer while waiting for PC game servers to come up

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

psy.Che posted:

Nope. Many companies have no issues handling this, it's just that nobody talks about all the launches etc. that went well.

There are still dozens of major MMO releases by gigantic companies that face day one issues, it's pretty commonplace. People do talk about the launches that go well actually, every time an MMO expansion goes smooth the threads tend to be crowded with posts about how surprised they are with it going smooth because for every one of them there are memories of Diablo 3 error messages, Simcity not working, and the fantastic lag of some WoW expansions. Or more recently still, PUBG dying repeatedly.

Anarkii
Dec 30, 2008
How long does it take for Frost Blades to be cool and good? It's pretty sluggish to start with. I've switched to Ice shot for now, since the tree for that isn't very different.

Keru
Aug 2, 2004

'n suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us 'n the sky was full of what looked like 'uge bats, all swooping 'n screeching 'n divin' around the ute.

funmanguy posted:

Everyone please, this is the la mulana thread now, be respectful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Ar0NfhfNI

Edit:

Anarkii posted:

How long does it take for Frost Blades to be cool and good? It's pretty sluggish to start with. I've switched to Ice shot for now, since the tree for that isn't very different.

Until you get Multistrike and have frenzy charges, generally speaking Frost Blades is going to feel sluggish. Once you get Raider and all the free frenzy, it'll start behaving like a machinegun.

Ougher
Jan 16, 2005
I could play other games but then how would I complainpost while mashing the login button.

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

Twist And Pout! posted:

thank god I bought a Nintendo Switch™ - now I can play video games at my gaming computer while waiting for PC game servers to come up

FeelsGoodMan spamming "poe is down FeelsBadMan" on dota 2 stream FeelsGoodMan

Valle
Apr 16, 2004

Telling customers how to solve world problems since 2001

Agent355 posted:

Glad you enjoyed it. I'm still waiting for La Mulana 2 to come out so I can LP that as well.

Could you post a link to that LP? Not like I'm gonna play PoE now anyway apparently...

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


Valle posted:

Could you post a link to that LP? Not like I'm gonna play PoE now anyway apparently...

https://lparchive.org/La-Mulana-(by-Agent355)/

It's p good

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




So I heard there's a new Doomfletch chest:

interrodactyl
Nov 8, 2011

you have no dignity

psy.Che posted:

As somebody working in IT, it really baffles the gently caress out of me how this kind of thing is still happening in 2017. Just use any big cloud vendor (AWS, MS Azure,...), make repeated large scale perf tests beforehand, have their support on stand by and hugely oversize your resources at first cause it's incredibly easy to reduce them if need be.

For many systems that are extremely complex, as I imagine PoE is, bottlenecks are non-obvious and you can't test for every single case before it happens.

"Throw more boxes at the problem" is a very expensive idea that often fails to address the actual root cause.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Also gotta remember that PoE is essentially being rewritten and modernized in big chunks with every expansion. poo poo goes wrong sometimes yo.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


title waves

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply