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Well, the best stuff you can afford without grinding. You're right before the point where the difficulty just kinda crumples apart so grinding's a waste anyway.
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I just started playing the PS4 version yesterday. It looks gorgeous, but after playing Zelda BotW, it's utterly frustrating not being able to go anywhere/everywhere. I may have to download the 3DS version and play it in the old-school 16-bit style.
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KingSlime posted:Not gonna lie the 3ds version looks pretty bad PS4 version has too much graphics, makes it hard to see enemies on screen when there's so much detail. I'd rather play the low poly version which is much clearer. Plus, DQ games don't feel right in other platforms. It's pretty much a Nintendo exclusive franchise at this point.
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Carmant posted:PS4 version has too much graphics, makes it hard to see enemies on screen when there's so much detail. 
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Aug 4, 2017 04:28
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Casino is super hype this time around https://www.twitch.tv/videos/164321286?t=1h40m I actually wasn't paying attention when I beat the liquid metal slime in the slot mini-game, which triggered the super bonus, so I thought the guy in my chat was asking if I had found any in the game yet lol. Didn't really read his message correctly either before it disappeared.
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I've decided to start playing through all the DQ games on iOS. Blew through 1, almost done with 2. People weren't kidding about the difficulty spike near the end. I know abusing quick saves goes against the spirit of the game but man, gently caress you and your insta-kill spells and heal-alls...
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Aug 4, 2017 19:39
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Carmant posted:PS4 version has too much graphics, makes it hard to see enemies on screen when there's so much detail. I'd rather play the low poly version which is much clearer. Plus, DQ games don't feel right in other platforms. It's pretty much a Nintendo exclusive franchise at this point. hey more power to you but playing DQ8 on release was incredible, I don't wanna speak for all DQ fans but I always thought that the idea of exploring a world full of toriyama's art in high fidelity has long been an out of reach fantasy for many fans I feel that super high fidelity graphics + old school mega dated turn based combat make for a very charming combination DQ8 was and still is incredible
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Recycle Bin posted:I've decided to start playing through all the DQ games on iOS. Blew through 1, almost done with 2. People weren't kidding about the difficulty spike near the end. I know abusing quick saves goes against the spirit of the game but man, gently caress you and your insta-kill spells and heal-alls... gently caress 2, cheat all you want. It sucks and is stupidly unfair at the end.
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Aug 4, 2017 21:04
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Yeah, 2 is the worst DQ mainline game and it really isn't close. I have a strange affinity for it that I know 100 percent is nostalgia fueled because as a child it seemed so vast and huge compared to DQ1. It really captured my imagination. But objectively its designed extremely poorly.
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Is DQ2 on IOS closer to the NES game or the Super Famicom remake? The reason I ask is that I have played both; I found the former to be a poo poo-covered example of bad, frustrating game design while the latter was a solid if unspectacular RPG but one that didn't make me want to commit atrocities.
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Aug 4, 2017 23:52
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"Cool, you just got to the end of the grueling dungeon! Congratulations! Now, the enemies between you and the next healing/save point just got even stronger!" - Dragon Quest 2 Which is, I suppose, still marginally better than Dragon Quest 4 with the literal fake safe spot that's actually a boss battle in essentially the same situation
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Aug 4, 2017 23:59
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JustJeff88 posted:Is DQ2 on IOS closer to the NES game or the Super Famicom remake? The reason I ask is that I have played both; I found the former to be a poo poo-covered example of bad, frustrating game design while the latter was a solid if unspectacular RPG but one that didn't make me want to commit atrocities. It's the mobile port that was made after the SNES remake. It has some quality-of-life improvements, in particular a quick save slot that makes the last few battles way more tolerable.
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2 is just poorly designed all-around. There was lots of experimentation going around at the time, so most of everything ends up being vastly over-tuned. The end game is especially bad, and a speed run on the original version can take anywhere from 4 to 7 hours just because of how cheap the last few bosses are and how much luck you need in the end game normally, let alone at a low level. The SFC and newer versions aren't as bad, you can get through them quite rapidly due to the more balanced leveling. I remember in the original, Hagure Metals are like the hardest enemy in the game and give lousy EXP.
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BabyRyoga posted:Casino is super hype this time around Good lord that looked like it could've been a game in itself right there. I haven't touched Terry 3d in a while but it was fun while it lasted, I love the Monsters series a lot
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Shugojin posted:"Cool, you just got to the end of the grueling dungeon! Congratulations! Now, the enemies between you and the next healing/save point just got even stronger!" - Dragon Quest 2
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Vakal posted:There was some talk in this thread about a fan translation of Joker 3 Professional being worked on. The actual translation work is 95+% done, but there are catastrophic problems with the way the game is coded that are causing overflows with the addition of longer text, so until a workaround is figured out, the progress is a bit roadblocked. I'm not too savvy to the technical details, but I know there are many people searching for a workaround that are constantly frustrated at how it is turning out. It'll see the light of day sooner or later, hopefully sooner. It just takes one breakthrough really.
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ComposerGuy posted:Yeah, 2 is the worst DQ mainline game and it really isn't close. I have a strange affinity for it that I know 100 percent is nostalgia fueled because as a child it seemed so vast and huge compared to DQ1. It really captured my imagination. I played the poo poo out of dq1 when I was a kid, them dq2 put me of the franchise entirely until I played 8. I came to call any rpg where they give you a boat and tell you nothing about where to go or what you're supposed to do when you get there "Dragon Warrior 2 Syndrome." It's disturbing how many games for that description.
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Okay, I got one more level, the Hero learned Midheal and I was able to complete the everything goes horribly wrong dungeon.
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Yeah tbh I kinda remember Midheal being a thing but didn't wanna say it in case I was wrong.
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Just beat 2. I grinded a few more levels and got in to a good heal/attack routine with the final boss. The iOS version takes away his healAll spell so it's not completely agonizing. Now on to 3! Anyone have some general tips/tricks i should know going in?
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Last Celebration posted:Yeah tbh I kinda remember Midheal being a thing but didn't wanna say it in case I was wrong. As much as I despise DQ2 on the NES (I thought that the SFC version was pretty good, however) while adoring 3 and having never seriously played 4, I have this unusual fondness for DQ1 despite freely admitting that it's not a very good game. It has minimal content and is virtually all grind, but I love the enemy sprites and always think of it fondly. That game could use a lot of improvements, but one that I always wish for is that there be a mid-level heal in that game. You get Heal very early on but it becomes outdated after a level levels while Healmore is great up through level 30 but isn't received until level 17. I've always thought that that game would be better with "Healmore" at about level 8-10, with that spell between the two existing spells in terms of potency. Then, have the level 17 spell be called Healmost which is functionally identical to Healmore as it exists. The "Hurt" spells could probably use a similar rebalancing, but Hurtmore as is becomes pointless if you level up into the 20s because your melee attack ends up just as good while costing bugger all.
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ComposerGuy posted:Yeah, 2 is the worst DQ mainline game and it really isn't close. I have a strange affinity for it that I know 100 percent is nostalgia fueled because as a child it seemed so vast and huge compared to DQ1. It really captured my imagination. Hello friend. You are me. BabyRyoga posted:I remember in the original, Hagure Metals are like the hardest enemy in the game and give lousy EXP. Not really. You can do a lot more damage to them in 2 compared to the rest of the series, at high levels, at least. Hero and Cannock hitting one together is typically a kill. They give 1050 xp and 255 gold each, which is about on par with an average end-game battle. The problem is they run away and can cast Firebane.
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Recycle Bin posted:Just beat 2. I grinded a few more levels and got in to a good heal/attack routine with the final boss. The iOS version takes away his healAll spell so it's not completely agonizing. Now on to 3! Anyone have some general tips/tricks i should know going in? I think the GBC did as well. It did not take it away from the third of the castle's mini-bosses though which resulted in it being probably a harder fight than the final boss 
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The only saving grace in the original DQ2 is the bug that lets you swap a falcon sword and sword of destruction so that you hit twice per turn with the attack of the sword and none of its cursed RNG bullshit. You just have to get a Sword of Destruction drop in the first place.
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Evil Fluffy posted:The only saving grace in the original DQ2 is the bug that lets you swap a falcon sword and sword of destruction so that you hit twice per turn with the attack of the sword and none of its cursed RNG bullshit. How do you trigger that bug?
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I heard that in Dragon Quest XI, you can respec your skills. Is this true?
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So dq10 for wii wiiu switch but never for the Americas
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Dragon Quest Builders 2 was just announced, by the way.
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Alxprit posted:Dragon Quest Builders 2 was just announced, by the way. For the Switch, baby!
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Bongo Bill posted:I heard that in Dragon Quest XI, you can respec your skills. Is this true?
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Alxprit posted:Dragon Quest Builders 2 was just announced, by the way. Googling this lead me to Dragon Quest Rivals, a Hearthstone-like CCG 
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I played in the closed beta for Rivals, it was a total Hearthstone rip only you couldn't turn off the animations and it took forever to play a game, plus it ran like crap on my Kindle Fire. I would probably put a lot of time into it if it were in English and I could run it on a better device.
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Boco_T posted:I played in the closed beta for Rivals, it was a total Hearthstone rip only you couldn't turn off the animations and it took forever to play a game, plus it ran like crap on my Kindle Fire. I would probably put a lot of time into it if it were in English and I could run it on a better device. Yeah I hadn't heard of it before, and I guess they're talking about it now in the stream Builders was announced. I guess it's been out for a couple months, but I don't know what they're saying at all or if they're announcing anything new about it.
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It was a 2 week closed beta back in June and then they went back to developing on it. Basically the only tweet from the Rivals account since the beta closed was about the stage presentation that I assume they are doing right now. And I guess they have stations at that event people can play try the game on. I'd be interested in hearing what they've updated since the beta. My feedback survey answers were speed up the game, let me turn off animations, make a Windows version, and make an English version.
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Is anyone in here playing Japanese Dragon Quest XI? I'm considering picking it up but I haven't played Dragon Quest VIII so I'm not sure what to expect coming from having played only 1-5 and 9.
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I'm playing it on 3DS. I stuck one of those dashboard phone mount things to my desk to hold my phone with Google Translate open so I can just point it at my 3DS screen while I play. It's navigable. I'm only level 11 with 8 hours though because I don't have that much time to play each day and it does feel like a bit of work to translate it that way.
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Language shouldn't be too big a deal, but that aside is it fun? I noticed that you can switch between active movement and old school turn-based battle styles, so I'm thinking it might make a good gift for someone who's only played (but loved) Dragon Quest III.
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On the 3DS version you can switch between 3D DQ8 graphics and 2D sprites, but the battles are always turn based. Don't know about PS4 and the real time thing. I think it's fun but it's also very easy. The battles run fast and the auto-battle makes it faster, so you end up over leveling a bit and the difficulty is not that high. May get harder later but I haven't really heard that, especially for the first half of the game at least.
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