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Last night I watched the Vudu copy of Pulp Fiction that came with the Bluray because I was too lazy to get up. It had some bullshit CG Miramax logo instead of the awesome 90s blue glowy one, and I could swear it was sourced from some 1080i copy. Aliasing all over the god drat place. Boo digital copy
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Jul 27, 2017 20:46
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Latest Masters of Cinema announcement: Buster Keaton: Three Films - Oct 16 Includes Sherlock Jr, The General, and Steamboat Bill Jr - 3-disc Blu-Ray set with 60 page book in hardbound slipcase - New 4K restorations - Music scores on The General and Steamboat Bill, Jr. by Carl Davis - Music score on Sherlock Jr. by Timothy Brock - Audio commentary on Sherlock Jr. by David Kalat - Three new video interviews with film scholar Peter Kramer on each film - Buster Keaton: The Genius Destroyed by Hollywood (52 mins) - Buster Keaton on Wagon Train - audio interview with Keaton by Bill Cox (58 min) - Sherlock Jr. tour of filming locations - Sherlock Jr: Movie Magic and Mysteries featurette - Introductions by Orson Welles and Gloria Swanson on The General - Steamboat Bill Jr making-of video essay
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Jul 28, 2017 16:04
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Got my Kino Lorber order today. Really impressed with how fast it was shipped considering it was a sale. I can't believe how sharp Daredevils of the Red Circle looks. I'm not used to a Republic serial looking like it was shot yesterday. Wow. Also, Amazon has the 4K restored My Fair Lady for $12 right now. Not a huge fan of the film, but I can't resist high quality 65mm restorations. The new restoration was from new 8K scans of the 65mm camera negative, color separations, and interpositive with a complete 4K workflow for the restoration. Also, I think most of the film-based extras were remastered in HD for the release. Trip report when it arrives.
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Jul 28, 2017 20:08
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that Keaton set looks very appealing, but I already have both the Kino set of his movies and the MoC of his short films so I'll sit this one out. (plus his best feature was The Navigator anyway.)
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Jul 29, 2017 00:27
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Is the Kino set likely to be region free and how much would it be? This might make me get a multiregion Blu player.
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Jul 29, 2017 00:55
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Egbert Souse posted:Got my Kino Lorber order today. Really impressed with how fast it was shipped considering it was a sale. I can't believe how sharp Daredevils of the Red Circle looks. I'm not used to a Republic serial looking like it was shot yesterday. Wow. I just bought My Fair Lady. It's great.
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Jul 29, 2017 01:28
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Cloks posted:Is the Kino set likely to be region free and how much would it be? Kino's distribution of the Douris, now Cohen Media catalog ended early this year. As a result, they're only able to distribute the public domain films, which are the short films, Three Ages, College, The General, and Steamboat Bill Jr. Lobster Films did 2K restorations of all the public domain stuff, but they're inferior to the materials Cohen holds. Also, the MoC set is part of a larger project of Cohen's to restore all of Keaton's silent features (minus The Cameraman and Spite Marriage) in 4K. Cohen distributes their own releases here, while they license to MoC, Arrow, and BFI in the UK. I'd expect the US Keatons to be similar since the US and UK editions of Intolerance and The Thief of Bagdad are nearly identical.
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Jul 29, 2017 01:45
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Egbert Souse posted:Kino's distribution of the Douris, now Cohen Media catalog ended early this year. As a result, they're only able to distribute the public domain films, which are the short films, Three Ages, College, The General, and Steamboat Bill Jr. Lobster Films did 2K restorations of all the public domain stuff, but they're inferior to the materials Cohen holds. Also, the MoC set is part of a larger project of Cohen's to restore all of Keaton's silent features (minus The Cameraman and Spite Marriage) in 4K. Cohen distributes their own releases here, while they license to MoC, Arrow, and BFI in the UK. Awesome. I'll just sit tight until that's released.
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Jul 29, 2017 02:51
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$16.59 - Ex Machina (4K UHD + Blu-Ray + UV) https://www.amazon.com/Ex-Machina-4...d34c4301207e837
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Jul 29, 2017 14:43
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Is there any hope that we'll get the Original Series Star Trek movies a proper transfer? I honestly had no idea I was watching a lovely transfer until Timby pointed it out.
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Jul 29, 2017 21:23
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Yaws posted:Is there any hope that we'll get the Original Series Star Trek movies a proper transfer? I honestly had no idea I was watching a lovely transfer until Timby pointed it out. Highly doubtful. Wrath of Khan got that 4K remaster last year but the franchise was never a huge moneymaker for Paramount until 2009, and Paramount's always been content to half-rear end its home video releases when it doesn't see a ton of profit potential. If they didn't do it for the 50th anniversary last year, they're not doing it.
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Jul 29, 2017 21:27
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Timby posted:Highly doubtful. Wrath of Khan got that 4K remaster last year but the franchise was never a huge moneymaker for Paramount until 2009, and Paramount's always been content to half-rear end its home video releases when it doesn't see a ton of profit potential. If they didn't do it for the 50th anniversary last year, they're not doing it. Ugh. I didn't grow up with Star Trek and am only a new fan of the series so this sucks rear end. On a complete aside those Next Generation movies suck rear end.
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Jul 29, 2017 21:33
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The most likely thing would be Paramount to start licensing to Shout! Factory, which I think is inevitable.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Some 4K deals. All of them come with a Blu-Ray and UV code. This one dropped to $16.96
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Jul 30, 2017 02:49
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Yaws posted:Ugh. I didn't grow up with Star Trek and am only a new fan of the series so this sucks rear end. Half of First Contact is pretty good. And McDowell is great in Generations.
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Jul 30, 2017 03:20
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Vince MechMahon posted:Half of First Contact is pretty good. And McDowell is great in Generations. There's good stuff in all the TNG movies except Nemesis (which is just execrable in every respect). Generations has McDowell chewing scenery left and right, the fun prologue, a severely underrated score by Dennis McCarthy and the second-best cinematography of the original ten films, behind only The Final Frontier. First Contact's stuff on Earth is a lot of fun, which makes up for Frakes being a terrible action director. A lot of the location shooting on Insurrection is gorgeous, and Goldsmith knocked the score out of the park; F. Murray Abraham is excellent in it, as well. But, man. gently caress Nemesis.
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Jul 30, 2017 03:44
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Timby posted:and the second-best cinematography of the original ten films, behind only The Final Frontier. What? I just watched The Final Frontier a couple weeks ago and the whole movie is loving ugly and everything looks cheap (because it was).
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Jul 30, 2017 06:13
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I still like Tom Hardy's performance in Nemesis. Glad it didnt end his career
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Jul 30, 2017 07:12
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Egbert Souse posted:The most likely thing would be Paramount to start licensing to Shout! Factory, which I think is inevitable. Let's hope so because Paramount have always seemed ashamed of their horror collection, despite how lucrative it's been for them.
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Jul 30, 2017 13:16
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Jose Oquendo posted:What? I just watched The Final Frontier a couple weeks ago and the whole movie is loving ugly and everything looks cheap (because it was). The Final Frontier was the second-most expensive of the first six movies, behind only the first.
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Jul 30, 2017 14:15
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I went ahead and got the Zatoichi box set. I'm usually not a fan of the the book style packaging, but it's probably the most beautiful set I've seen.
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Timby posted:The Final Frontier was the second-most expensive of the first six movies, behind only the first. Edit: Just following up on this: The Final Frontier was horribly expensive because of its eight-month cycle, and they also did a bunch of rushed location filming alongside a few very pricey new sets and props: The shuttlebay that was reused for TNG, the new bridge (which then had to be rebuilt nearly from scratch for VI), the rushed effects work, etc. But despite all that, The Final Frontier is a goddamn gorgeous movie. Andy Laszlo shot the hell out of it, particularly the bridge, and Shatner knew how to move a camera, as opposed to Nimoy's "two-shots, coverage and done" approach.
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I agree that the Nimoy movies are poorly shot. You have any examples of anything good from ST5? I can only think of a couple of things. Some of desert stuff from Nimbus and that shot of the observation lounge with the old steering wheel are the only things that come to mind.
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Jose Oquendo posted:I agree that the Nimoy movies are poorly shot. You have any examples of anything good from ST5? I can only think of a couple of things. Some of desert stuff from Nimbus and that shot of the observation lounge with the old steering wheel are the only things that come to mind. One shot that always, always, always comes to mind is this wonderful dolly shot on the bridge, when everyone is in awe of the God Planet: The camera slowly moves from the front to the back of the bridge, finally closing in on a tactical display that shows the Klingon Bird of Prey is entering firing range (and it's punctuated by a minor-chord variation of the Klingon battle theme played by one lonely horn).
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Just a heads up... Mill Creek is pulling a dick move and releasing their own Night of the Living Dead on Oct. 17. It's all but confirmed that Criterion will be releasing the new 4K restoration.
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Egbert Souse posted:Just a heads up... Mill Creek is pulling a dick move and releasing their own Night of the Living Dead on Oct. 17. It's all but confirmed that Criterion will be releasing the new 4K restoration. I don't think that will make much of a difference because there are already multiple blu-rays and the kind of people who give a poo poo about this stuff will certainly hold out for the Criterion release. Also, holy poo poo, what? Has Criterion officially announced that?
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Shin Godzilla UV code: FGZN7FAE02KG44Z0
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CPL593H posted:I don't think that will make much of a difference because there are already multiple blu-rays and the kind of people who give a poo poo about this stuff will certainly hold out for the Criterion release. Also, holy poo poo, what? Has Criterion officially announced that? Janus Films is distributing the restoration and Romero was at the Filmstruck launching party. I just think it's detrimental to release a sub-par edition of a film when a restoration is available. All it's going to do is confuse fans. This is one of the hazards of public domain films, especially since Criterion (and most other niche labels) go out of their way to properly secure rights to films not under copyright. They licensed Charade from Universal to get access to their pristine vault elements, Carnival of Souls to do a 4K from the camera negative, and even licensed the literary rights to the original play The Front Page to release His Girl Friday and the '31 film. Shout! has licensed completely public domain films like The Brain That Wouldn't Die and The Screaming Skull so they can use high quality materials instead of some garbage theatrical print.
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Egbert Souse posted:Janus Films is distributing the restoration and Romero was at the Filmstruck launching party. I just think it's detrimental to release a sub-par edition of a film when a restoration is available. All it's going to do is confuse fans. I'm sure they knew what they were getting themselves into and I'm sure people will still be hyped to get a Criterion release of Night of the Living Dead. It is kind of lovely though because you're right in that it seems like Mill Creek is trying to dupe people with an inferior release.
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Rusty Staub posted:Shin Godzilla UV code: FGZN7FAE02KG44Z0 I was able to get this one. Thanks! Gonna have a Godzilla night tonight.
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I remember when small companies would put out public domain films they'd tend to have watermarks on them (like those Max Fleischer Superman cartoons). What's the deal behind that again? Surely if you do restoration works, or at the very least your own scans, you would retain the copyright on that print if not the work itself. Were people literally then just lifting them off the discs and selling them on without issue?
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I'm sure it's the same concept as Paper Towns. You put it in there to make sure that people won't illegally profit off your work.
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CPL593H posted:I'm sure they knew what they were getting themselves into and I'm sure people will still be hyped to get a Criterion release of Night of the Living Dead. It is kind of lovely though because you're right in that it seems like Mill Creek is trying to dupe people with an inferior release. If you read the announcement on Blu-ray.com, a lot of people are confused now, because they either don't know if it's the restoration or they think Mill Creek has the rights. EL BROMANCE posted:I remember when small companies would put out public domain films they'd tend to have watermarks on them (like those Max Fleischer Superman cartoons). What's the deal behind that again? Surely if you do restoration works, or at the very least your own scans, you would retain the copyright on that print if not the work itself. Were people literally then just lifting them off the discs and selling them on without issue? 99% of the time, watermarks are fairly useless. The 2K restoration of Triumph of the Will has barely noticeable ones and hard-coded subs so it's technically a copyrighted work as a whole. If someone swiped the transfer, they'd be successfully sued. I have no idea why the Superman cartoons needed watermarks because they just upscaled the same dingy old transfers and blasted them with DVNR (like the infamous Gulliver's Travels release). There's also the matter of elements. Even if a film becomes public domain, the negatives, fine-grains/interpositives, etc. are still owned by the rights holder if they survive. Sony has the negative to His Girl Friday restored and the Criterion Blu-Ray is from a new fine-grain positive produced from that restoration. Since they actually licensed the transfer from Sony, they got a higher quality source to work from. They even secured the rights to the original play, which is still copyrighted. While someone could probably get away with stealing His Girl Friday, the only source in the world for the American cut of The Front Page is on the Criterion edition released in the US, Canada, and UK. Thus, it's immediately obvious where it came from. There's also music rights, which is how It's a Wonderful Life isn't a public domain staple anymore. The music and the source story are still copyrighted, which means the film can't be exploited. Charade also has copyrighted music. I think a PD John Wayne film was released with a totally remixed track to remove the original music score because it was the only part still copyrighted. Also, with Blu-ray, most people aren't going to buy lovely discs of upscales or overdone DVNR. It also helps that films from the UK and Europe had copyrights recovered in the 1990s. Thus, anyone releasing stuff like the British Hitchcock films is actually pirating the films rather than exploiting public domain. Same thing with German silent films. It gives the rights holders an incentive to restore the films because some rear end in a top hat can't plop The Lady Vanishes from an upscale of Criterion's laserdisc and not get their pants sued off.
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Good info, thanks! Ah yeah I remember reading a ton about that Gullivers disc at the time. Lots of pissed off people.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Good info, thanks! Ah yeah I remember reading a ton about that Gullivers disc at the time. Lots of pissed off people. I looked back to see if it was as bad as I remember it and it was worse. Thunderbean put out a beautiful disc from an original dye-transfer Technicolor print and it's not even that expensive: https://www.amazon.com/Fleischer-Fe...travels+Blu-ray They're also working on the entire independent films of Ub Iwerks, all from archival elements like camera negatives and original prints. Only the Willie Whopper cartoons are out so far, but sets for Flip the Frog and the ComiColor shorts are in the works. I think the other Fleischer feature film Mr. Bug Goes to Town is coming out (though licensed, since it's not public domain).
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EL BROMANCE posted:I remember when small companies would put out public domain films they'd tend to have watermarks on them (like those Max Fleischer Superman cartoons). What's the deal behind that again? Surely if you do restoration works, or at the very least your own scans, you would retain the copyright on that print if not the work itself. Were people literally then just lifting them off the discs and selling them on without issue? I don't think this is true in the US. There was a spat a few years ago between Wikipedia and the National Portrait Gallery in London, because they used ultra-high res scans the museum took. The resolution of the scanning is considered transformative, and thus grants copyright, in the UK, but not so in the US. So in the case of films, presumably, the only way for them to essentially copyright the work is to include a watermarked logo over which they do own the copyright, and can sue for.
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Speaking of Mill Creek, every time I relent and buy a DVD of something because I figure it's never getting a blu-ray release not too long after a blu-ray happens. So I guess now Mill Creek is releasing Shakes the Clown.
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Would Night of the Living Dead even benefit much from a 4K scan? Wasn't it shot on pretty cheap 16mm? I wonder how much of an upgrade it would be from one of the 'good' DVDs. I have the red case version (Millennium edition?) and it's already night and day compared to a bargain-bin DVD.
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david_a posted:Would Night of the Living Dead even benefit much from a 4K scan? Wasn't it shot on pretty cheap 16mm? I wonder how much of an upgrade it would be from one of the 'good' DVDs. I have the red case version (Millennium edition?) and it's already night and day compared to a bargain-bin DVD. It was shot in 35mm and the new Film Foundation restoration used the newly discovered camera negative. Most public domain prints are from 16mm, though.
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