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I am curious if it's possible to skip the first mound with dream gates.
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Discendo Vox posted:I am curious if it's possible to skip the first mound with dream gates. Maybe you're talking about something else, but the only "mound" I'm aware of is Ancestral Mound, where you get the fireball spell extremely early in the game. You need Dream Nail + 900 essence to get dream gates.
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Aug 4, 2017 15:55
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I'm curious if they prevented dream gates from shortcutting the flower quest. (I assume so since that's really obvious, but don't have a save file to test it.)
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Aug 4, 2017 16:03
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There's a neat article up on PC Gamer about the map design process. Some tidbits: at one point they considered a procedural generation approach then discarded it because it sucked; there was an extremely large lava zone called Bone Forest that was in almost every early design but then got cut and broken up into Deepnest, Ancient Basin, and Kingdom's Edge; the White Palace was one of the earlier concepts they came up with.
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Aug 4, 2017 16:07
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Tempest_56 posted:I'm curious if they prevented dream gates from shortcutting the flower quest. (I assume so since that's really obvious, but don't have a save file to test it.) It's been tested. Dream gate breaks the flower.
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Aug 4, 2017 16:23
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Here's what's not a good idea. Starting this game then going on holiday and not playing for 3 weeks. I have zero idea where to continue and have to backtrack everything to guess.
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Aug 4, 2017 17:09
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Try turning off map pins and looking for parts of the map that end without an outline, it means they lead somewhere else.
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Aug 4, 2017 17:19
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It would be cool if the game took pains to clue you in when you've been gone a long time. Like have the map show the path you took for the ten minutes you last played. It's kind of a recurring problem in metroidvanias if you don't play for a long time.
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Aug 4, 2017 17:23
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Dancer posted:Maybe you're talking about something else, but the only "mound" I'm aware of is Ancestral Mound, where you get the fireball spell extremely early in the game. You need Dream Nail + 900 essence to get dream gates. Yes, I believe it's possible to get the dream nail before the mound.
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Aug 4, 2017 18:30
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Well, if anyone's curious as to what happens when you light every Dream Zote candle the answer is nothing at all as far as I can tell. He does enough damage to one-shot you without lifeblood charms when every candle is lit, but like his journal entry suggests he just keeps getting stronger with each defeat after that until you can't survive a hit even with lifeblood boosts. I also decided to record this 'final' version of the fight since it took me over 100 tries to reach and defeat it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4aajKRC6bc
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Aug 4, 2017 20:37
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Spatial posted:Try turning off map pins and looking for parts of the map that end without an outline, it means they lead somewhere else. I kind of wish that when you hit an inacessible path, the map would leave some reminder of why it was inaccessible. It's kind of annoying having to revisit all 20 doors-to-nowhere on your map every time you get a new power because you can't remember which ones needed you to jump further, jump higher, open a locked door, etc.
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Aug 4, 2017 21:01
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So are both new boss fights infinitely repeatable? I can understand why with Zote but what about Dung Defender
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Seeric posted:Well, if anyone's curious as to what happens when you light every Dream Zote candle the answer is nothing at all as far as I can tell. He does enough damage to one-shot you without lifeblood charms when every candle is lit, but like his journal entry suggests he just keeps getting stronger with each defeat after that until you can't survive a hit even with lifeblood boosts. Congrats! I'm currently on "Sensual" Zote, and already, the 5 damage per hit is ridiculous. Really pleased with how this boss turned out, but I can definitely see why they didn't gate any achievements behind completing subsequent iterations of the fight. Highwang posted:So are both new boss fights infinitely repeatable? I can understand why with Zote but what about Dung Defender As far as I can tell, yes. I re-fought the White Defender twice. Each new iteration gives him an extra point of damage with each attack, and additional lines as he fades away when defeated. As far as why he's repeatable, maybe it's supposed to reflect the fact that Hallownest is long gone and his king and his comrades variously dead or deserted. He feels powerless in the face of this loss, so he needs to imagine himself as stronger and stronger, until maybe, somehow, he could've been strong enough to present this whole tragedy from happening. I just thought of this because the dream fight takes place in front of what appear to be the spirits of his friends, which dissipate when he loses. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. That said, it's pretty funny the first time to enter the dream and see the White Palace caked with poo poo. An interesting touch for what seems to be a reminiscence of better days.
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Aug 4, 2017 23:14
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but where does the dung all come from
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:but where does the dung all come from If memory serves, Dung Defender got exiled from the team because of his fascination with dung. This might explain why, he just made the White Palace brown.
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Aug 5, 2017 00:41
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The dungeon came after, I think, or to the extent it came before, the others didn't care. They don't mind the defender's crest, for example.
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Aug 5, 2017 01:40
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Who would mind such a heroic-smelling bug? 
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Aug 5, 2017 01:45
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Spatial posted:Who would mind such a heroic-smelling bug? That uncultured swine who trades in worthless trinkets and gee-gaws in the city.
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Aug 5, 2017 01:53
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The additional lines and titles for Defender and Zote, respectively, does suggest there's an upper limit.
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Aug 5, 2017 02:11
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57, one for each of the great precepts of Zote. 
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Aug 5, 2017 02:45
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https://twitter.com/P5ych/status/893273833506914305 they're good fans, jerry
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Aug 5, 2017 02:58
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For anyone curious. Dream Nail Dialogue for Grey Prince Zote: "Dark... Light... They're nothing compared to her!" "I'll kill you quickly! I must tend to my Queen!" For White Defender: "Hegemol... I miss your humour..." "Dryya... I miss your wisdom..." "Ze'mer... I miss your stories..." "Isma... I miss... I miss you..."
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Aug 5, 2017 03:54
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Highwang posted:If memory serves, Dung Defender got exiled from the team because of his fascination with dung. This might explain why, he just made the White Palace brown. no i mean in general. we don't see anything other than bugs in the game unless... is it all from Bardoom?
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Aug 5, 2017 13:44
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Is there any real point in getting the new Stag station in an already completed game? Is there anything there?
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Aug 5, 2017 18:33
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Do I need to chase that weird spider lady all the way back to the dreamer or something to 100%? I only talked to her once.
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Aug 5, 2017 18:44
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do what now
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Nevvy Z posted:Do I need to chase that weird spider lady all the way back to the dreamer or something to 100%? I only talked to her once. If you're talking about the Midwife, then no, you don't need to do anything at all with her.
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Aug 5, 2017 19:38
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They made it a lot easier to fight in the water. There's no delay before you can jump anymore.
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Spatial posted:They made it a lot easier to fight in the water. There's no delay before you can jump anymore. Oh thank heavens, that made flukemarm so annoying.
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Speaking of (from the AMA)  I am the master of zotes SirSamVimes fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Aug 6, 2017 |
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Aug 6, 2017 03:21
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Wow Dream Gates are awesome, and I can't imagine playing the game without them now
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Aug 6, 2017 21:53
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I really wish there were a clear maximum on either of these fights, with some final outcome.
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Aug 6, 2017 22:09
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Holy gently caress Nosk is an angry boy now. Lucky for me it glitched out on my second attempt and got stuck in its jumping animation under the entrance doorway. 
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Dog Kisser posted:Wow Dream Gates are awesome, and I can't imagine playing the game without them now I haven't had a chance to load into the game since the update. Is it essentially a one way teleport back to where you put your original dream gate? Or can you go back through it like a door?
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Aug 7, 2017 05:27
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Dream gates should at least make the flower quest less infuriating. Just poof yourself back to the start if you gently caress it up.
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Aug 7, 2017 05:43
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I started playing this after I got it in the last steam sale. Just beat Radiance and finished the game. It was really loving good. I also have like, no idea what was going on in the story.
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Aug 7, 2017 06:59
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Ambivalent posted:For White Defender: oh god  why does awesome jolly lovely boy have to have such an awful time while that prick zote gets all the cred
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Aug 8, 2017 01:20
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Whose sword is this? It's a nail, baby. Whose nail is this? Zote's. Who's Zote? Zote's dead, baby... Zote's dead.
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Fuligin posted:I started playing this after I got it in the last steam sale. Just beat Radiance and finished the game. It was really loving good. I also have like, no idea what was going on in the story. http://hollowknight.wikia.com/wiki/Lore will spell it all out for you based on what's in the game. Since there's no item descriptions or stuff for the most part, most of Hollow Knight's lore is pretty clear once it's all put together, so you won't see any wild LORE IMPLICATIONS SPECULATION like you would with Dark Souls. Bardoom lays out the Pale King, Seer lays out the infection, and the stuff you need to do in the Abyss explains your origins, so it's all there really.
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Started up a play-by-post traditional game set in the Hollow Knight universe. Drop by if you're that particular variety of nerd that likes videogames AND dungeons and dragons.
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