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comedyblissoption posted:uh no. this still makes them an undemocratic institution governed by party insiders. just get rid of them or make them bound by their state's popular vote proportionally. don't get me wrong, this would be the compromise position. ideally, bound to state results would be better, and doing away with them entirely would be best. But the ultimate goal would be to force an actual change in democratic strategies.
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shiksa posted:we need to get more racist! Maybe now would be a good time to have one of those sit-ins that the Democrats used because they wanted the "no-fly list" to be re-used to make a "no gun list" Too bad I'm too lazy to sit anywhere but in front of my PC
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Rand alPaul posted:Democratic Party is straight up rigged, please let it die. lol if u think u will be granted such mercy
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Scent of Worf posted:https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/894193684886863873 maybe if stating someone's professional stances, policy positions, and voting record constitute an "attack", that person has problematic professional stances, policy positions, and voting record
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Vox Nihili posted:no one has been anointed yet. quote:Earlier this month, Harris met with several top Clinton donors in the Hamptons and attended a luncheon hosted for her by Liz Robbins, one of Hillary Clinton’s top lobbyist bundlers. This weekend, Harris returned to the Hamptons for more meet-and-greets with top Clinton donors. This time she met with Harvey Weinstein, Citigroup banker Ray Mcguire and former U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice. The continued meetings and lavish galas signal that Democratic elites are rallying behind Harris as she positions herself to run for president in 2020. http://observer.com/2017/07/clinton-staff-donors-kamala-harris-2020/
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Breakfast All Day posted:maybe if stating someone's professional stances, policy positions, and voting record constitute an "attack", that person has problematic professional stances, policy positions, and voting record I am starting to see a parallel between Republican Party use of "fake news" and Democratic Party use of "attack"
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Rand alPaul posted:Democratic Party is straight up rigged, please let it die. https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/893853182920622081
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She's literally meeting with billionaires and top hillary people in the hamptons. they are already grooming her to run in 2020
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:don't get me wrong, this would be the compromise position. ideally, bound to state results would be better, and doing away with them entirely would be best. But the ultimate goal would be to force an actual change in democratic strategies.
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Scent of Worf posted:She's literally meeting with billionaires and top hillary people in the hamptons. they are already grooming her to run in 2020 thankfully America is a country where the majority of people are billionai- oh, wait, drat
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galenanorth posted:I don't really see the point of democratic structures where someone or an oligarchy can possible choose to override democratic results, like how a Governor-General could theoretically overrule a Prime Minister despot. This assumes the benevolence of the oligarchy or the person making the decision, like a benevolent dictatorship, except we never get to see 100% for certain whether it works with a clear override. I mean, if the superdelegates are really so much wiser, surely it'd be better to just forego the primaries entirely the worst part of the superdelegate system is that it sets such an early narrative about the frontunner that is hard to overcome, especially when delegate tallies are reported by the media without breaking out the supers. from a 2015 npr story about the supers' effect in the 2016 race: quote:But these numbers mean Clinton has already gotten 15 percent of the delegates needed — two months before any voting has begun. In other words, Clinton starts with a 15 percentage point head start over Sanders.
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Vox Nihili posted:no one has been anointed yet. How willfully blind do you have to be to think this?
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Willa Rogers posted:the worst part of the superdelegate system is that it sets such an early narrative about the frontunner that is hard to overcome, especially when delegate tallies are reported by the media without breaking out the supers. lol that they pitch this as 11-dimensional-chess-electability-adult-insight as opposed to tilting the initial conditions
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Taintrunner posted:thankfully America is a country where the majority of people are billionai- oh, wait, drat Just wait for the dollar to fall out
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Breakfast All Day posted:lol that they pitch this as 11-dimensional-chess-electability-adult-insight as opposed to tilting the initial conditions neoliberal public radio
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Just wait for the dollar to fall out zimbabwerica is now accepting microfinancing
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im more of a nuke caucuses and Iowa man
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Willa Rogers posted:the worst part of the superdelegate system is that it sets such an early narrative about the frontunner that is hard to overcome, especially when delegate tallies are reported by the media without breaking out the supers. Didn't Barack Obama overcome the superdelegate advantage by Clinton in 2008 because he began bribing them? I recall reading there was an open bidding war for multiple superdelegates at one point, and many who switched showed up on the Hillary Enemies Spreadsheet.
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please don't read this as "I am a nuke caucuses man and also an Iowa man" I mean like nuke caucuses and then nuke Iowa tia
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This and the fundraiser for Florida Republicans shows how dead the party is.
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Scent of Worf posted:She's literally meeting with billionaires and top hillary people in the hamptons. they are already grooming her to run in 2020 Whats with billionares and grooming people
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Nanomashoes posted:Whats with billionares and grooming people They're all pederasts
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tired: superdelegates wired: members of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
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Man Musk posted:I just find it odd that the 45 other D senators don't go through nearly as much scrutiny as a junior senator only 6 months in In most of their cases, we're not already being told that criticizing them is harmful to their 2020 general election chances, because most of them are not running for president We also talk a lot of poo poo about Mark Zuckerberg, and nobody's going "huh, I wonder why they're not constantly dissing every other tech CEO in existence too  ", because everyone knows the reason for that is that none of them are going to run for president. Same deal with Harris.
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also might be talking about deval patrick because it's certainly a good idea to let obama dictate the field after giving the world tom perez and emmanuel macron edit: alright he didn't really give anyone macron but it should be an object lesson as to why obama should stay the gently caress out of anything and everything
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Actually, capital punishment is bad coupled with the guys getting executed being executed more for getting on the party boss' bad side than them being corrupt shitheads.
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Horseshoe theory posted:Actually, capital punishment is bad coupled with the guys getting executed being executed more for getting on the party boss' bad side than them being corrupt shitheads. just take their poo poo and kick it down to the poors imo
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loquacius posted:Al Gore gives off a sort of Venom Snake "I've learned my lesson" vibe which is cool but I have no idea what any of his policy stances are besides climate change Al Gore could claim to have invented green energy and win based on that with plans on giving everyone green jobs at the solar mines. Imagine a presidency where instead of Steve Bannon it's Elon Musk as the top advisor.
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Horseshoe theory posted:Actually, capital punishment is bad coupled with the guys getting executed being executed more for getting on the party boss' bad side than them being corrupt shitheads. The best way to get leftists to squirm IRL is to ask them whether or not The Revolution will be violent. It will, lol if you think the capitalists are going down without a literal fight
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ThndrShk2k posted:Al Gore could claim to have invented green energy and win based on that with plans on giving everyone green jobs at the solar mines. Imagine a presidency where instead of Steve Bannon it's Elon Musk as the top advisor. i don't know about anyone else but working in a solar mine sounds pretty loving sweet
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I'm still kind of getting over the fact that someone came ITT to ask us why we were singling out Harris instead of any of "the 45 other D senators", conveniently ignoring the fact that she's going to run for president like, how disingenuous can you get
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loquacius posted:I'm still kind of getting over the fact that someone came ITT to ask us why we were singling out Harris instead of any of "the 45 other D senators", conveniently ignoring the fact that she's going to run for president hey at least he didn't claim that attacks from the left are secretly subversive right-wing tactics against a party that has had decades of experience undermining itself
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ThndrShk2k posted:Al Gore could claim to have invented green energy and win based on that with plans on giving everyone green jobs at the solar mines. Imagine a presidency where instead of Steve Bannon it's Elon Musk as the top advisor. Elon Musk was an adviser to Trump, he resigned after Trump abandoned the Paris Accords 
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the dems are gonna have cuomo, zuckerberg and harris fighting it out in the 2020 primaries lmao we are fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
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Heaps of Sheeps posted:The best way to get leftists to squirm IRL is to ask them whether or not The Revolution will be violent. It will, lol if you think the capitalists are going down without a literal fight As you allude in the spoiler, the correct answer is "it will be as violent as they make it."
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