Auspol August: The Faint Glow of Chinese Ciggies on the Hill

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Don Dongington: Sep 27, 2005; #ideasboom; College Slice

Another dead on Manus

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/07/refugee-found-dead-on-manus-island

Wonder how long it'll take for Chris Kenny to fly down there and defame the character of the deceased?

# ? Aug 7, 2017 04:23

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 09:16

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

god gently caress this.

can we weight down dutton and throw him into the bay for a bit?

quote:

A Melbourne teenager has gone for a dip at the beach and come out covered in blood and looking like a horror movie extra.

Boy taken to hospital when bites wouldn't stop bleeding
16-year-old had been standing in cold ocean
Expert says tiny amphipod creatures the likely culprit
When Sam Kanizay, 16, felt sore after football on Saturday, he decided to soak his legs at Dendy Street Beach in Brighton just before 6:30pm.

Half an hour later, he walked out covered in what his family said were tiny marine creatures eating his legs.

WARNING: This story contains graphic images.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 05:40

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

I don't think they are attracted to the flesh of potatoes.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 05:44

dr_rat: Jun 4, 2001

Synthbuttrange posted:

god gently caress this.

Well if this spreads summers going to be a bit of a blood bath then I guess.

Although apparently a bunch of people have gone swimming today in the same area and are fine so um ...all good?

# ? Aug 7, 2017 07:05

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

When do we get to hear the news about the LNP gay marriage party room meeting from today?

# ? Aug 7, 2017 07:11

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Political reporter Matthew Knott has been walking the corridors.

"The media are being blocked from the corridors around the Liberal party room with a group of security guards and some Parliament House officials telling any journalists to go away," he says.

"But I spoke to some MPs on the way in and there is no expectation that a conscience vote will succeed. Moderate MPs who support same-sex marriage are already talking of today's party room as a necessary defeat before an eventual victory."

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...807-gxqoow.html

# ? Aug 7, 2017 07:18

Senor Tron: May 26, 2006

They're going to agree as party policy to do a postal vote, have it fail in the high court and then still go on about their "election promise".

# ? Aug 7, 2017 07:30

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

Senor Tron posted:

They're going to agree as party policy to do a postal vote, waste $100 million on it and ignore the result anyway

# ? Aug 7, 2017 07:38

Senor Tron: May 26, 2006

If they try the plebiscite vote again it would hypothetically become a DD trigger right? Last time it passed House of Reps but was blocked in the senate?

I mean there's gently caress all chance Turnbull would pull the lever, but it's a strange situation to put themselves in.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 07:50

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/michaelkoziol/status/894447984422797312

# ? Aug 7, 2017 07:50

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

so literally the dumbest option hooray

# ? Aug 7, 2017 08:09

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

I thought the plebiscite was a postal vote?

# ? Aug 7, 2017 08:11

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

BBJoey posted:

so literally the dumbest option hooray

Any option that includes "free vote by years end" isn't the dumbest option.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 08:30

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

They didn't say which year's end!

# ? Aug 7, 2017 08:39

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/latikambourke/status/894460173141643264

# ? Aug 7, 2017 08:41

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/latikambourke/status/894460516189573120

# ? Aug 7, 2017 08:41

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

hooman posted:

Any option that includes "free vote by years end" isn't the dumbest option.

lmao you believe that poo poo?

remember when Abbott said the last parliament would be the last one in which the LNP would be bound on gay marriage?
:thunk:

# ? Aug 7, 2017 08:44

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Correct, we have stopped the leaks

the arsetralian no i will not link it posted:

The Turnbull government will today seek to impose restrictions on public servants criticising the Coalition on social media, warning that employees risk disciplinary action for �liking� anti-government posts or privately emailing negative mat�erial to a friend from home.

Documents obtained by The Australian show public servants would also be warned they could be in breach of the public service code of conduct if they do not �remove �nasty comments� about the government posted by others on the �employee�s Facebook page.

Under the new policy, liking or sharing anti-government material on a social media platform will generally be taken as an endorsement and as though the public servant had created the material.

Even if a public servant shares a post they do not agree with, and puts an angry face emoji with the post, the employee could still be in breach if their opposition to the post is not made sufficiently clear.

Declaring the code operates �in effect� to limit an individual�s right to freedom of expression, the �government also warned public �servants against posting criticism anonymously or under a pseudonym.

Australian Public Service Commissioner John Lloyd said last night that �objectionable material was not miraculously sanitised� by a public servant posting anonymously or using a pseudonym.

�That argument is similar to a burglar arguing that charges should be dismissed because he wore a balaclava,�� he said.

The Community and Public Sector Union last night accused the government of �overreach�.

�It�s completely unreasonable for a worker to face disciplinary �action over a private email or something as benign as �liking� a social media post,�� union national secretary Nadine Flood said.

�Of course there needs to be limits but this policy goes too far. The notion that the mum of a gay son who happens to work in Centrelink can�t like a Facebook post on marriage equality without endangering her job is patently �absurd.

�It is one thing to say that public servants working on a particular government policy shouldn�t be publicly criticising that policy, quite another to say they have no right to engage on social media on anything that could be a community issue.�

The policy, which applies across the federal public sector from today, says a public servant could be in breach of the code through material contained in a private email sent to a friend.

�There�s nothing to stop your friend taking a screenshot of that email, including your personal �details, and sending it to other �people or posting it all over the �internet,�� the policy says.

�Again, the breach of the code is not in their subsequent �publication of your material, but in your emailing that material in the first place.�

The government suggests a public servant could be held �responsible for �nasty comments� made on the employee�s social media pages by another person.

�Doing nothing about objectionable material that someone else has posted on your page can reasonably be seen in some circumstances as your endorsement of that material,�� it says. �If someone does post material of this kind, it may be sensible to delete it or make it plain that you don�t agree with it or support it.

�Any breach of the code would not come from the person making the post. It would come from how you reacted to it.�

Even if social media pages were locked to a public servant�s friends, the employee would be in breach of the code if the anti-government material was reposted by a friend.

�The breach of the code occurs at the time you made your post,�� the policy says. It says public comment �includes anything that you say in public or which ends up in public�.

�This can include something you�ve said or written to one person,�� it says. �If your comment has an audience, or a recipient, it�s a public comment.�

In relation to posts made after hours, the government says a public servant�s capacity to affect the reputation of their agency and the public service �does not stop when you leave the office�. �The comments you make after hours can make people question your ability to be impartial, �respectful and professional when you are at work,�� the policy says. �APS employees are required by law to uphold the APS values at all times.�

The policy says the common law recognises an individual right to freedom of expression. �This right is subject to limitations such as those imposed by the Public Service Act,�� it says. �In effect, the code of conduct operates to limit this right.�

Mr Lloyd said the government had �not sought to ban �employees from making public comments, or to limit their access to social media�.

�Rather, the guidance sets out the risks public servants need to take into account when they consider what they say and how they say it,�� he said

Mr Lloyd said public servants needed to think carefully about what they posted and take into �account whether their comment criticises their agency or their minister, the prime minister or the shadow minister. �The principle that an �employee should not publicly criticise their employer is a well-established one in both the private and public sectors,�� he said.

�Public servants should not make comments that could make members of the community doubt either the capacity of the government to deliver services properly or the personal commitment of that employee to their work.�

You're not the public's servant, you're the party's.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 08:54

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

https://twitter.com/keating01/status/894468425153617920

We're back to square one folks.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 09:05

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY: Feb 3, 2006

ewe2 posted:

Correct, we have stopped the leaks

You're not the public's servant, you're the party's.

This won't be a problem one every job is privatised.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 09:06

racing identity: Apr 5, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

https://twitter.com/latikambourke/status/894460516189573120

Live from London

# ? Aug 7, 2017 09:11

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

The Rebel Scum:

https://twitter.com/samanthamaiden/status/894470997105008640

# ? Aug 7, 2017 09:19

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

There's a politician called Jason Alexander?

# ? Aug 7, 2017 09:27

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

open24hours posted:

There's a politician called Jason Alexander?

Clearly an autocorrect for John duh.

https://twitter.com/srpeatling/status/894473070613639170

Try saying that fast. It's a miracle of computing by the Corbott.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 09:30

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

Surely there must be an easier and less expensive way to not do something.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 09:56

Smegmatron: Apr 23, 2003; I hate to advocate emptyquoting or shitposting to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

It's all irrelevant anyway because the plebiscite isn't binding. If the vote is a yes, all of the troglodytes are just going to vote no anyway. If it's a no, there just won't be a bill introduced into parliament until Labor eventually becomes the government, in which case the libs will vote no and lose. It's just the right wing of the libs trying to buy themselves some cover so they can say they tried when it eventually does go through, be it on their watch or not.

Upshot: loving huge waste of taxpayer money which will be given to the dickheads at the ACL to run homophobic ads for however long the plebiscite campaign lasts. The alternative is that literally nothing happens.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 09:59

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

On the other hand, I can't think of a better way to entrench an entire demographic against you for generations unless the ALP has a new trick up their ~~notes~~ sleeves.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 10:03

Amoeba102: Jan 22, 2010

I'd rather have Jason than John, but at least John voted for a change to policy.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 10:06

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Death to the Liberals

# ? Aug 7, 2017 10:23

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Endman posted:

Surely there must be an easier and less expensive way to not do something.

Surely Turnbull has been reading from the Ted Baillieu book of "Doing Nothing when you are in Government"

# ? Aug 7, 2017 10:33

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Peter Dutton is basically PM at this point.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 10:35

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Umm guys Australia Post can't even deliver me a NES Mini from 30kms up the road from the EBGames warehouse without multiple phonecalls from me, if they run a postal vote it will be a fiasco.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 10:53

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

ewe2 posted:

https://twitter.com/srpeatling/status/894473070613639170

Strong and decisive leadership.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 10:57

bandaid.friend: Apr 25, 2017; My first car was a stick

HOW TO VOTE FOR MARRIAGE EQUALITY IN THE NON BINDING NON LEGISLATIVE VOLUNTARY SAME SEX MARRIAGE POSTAL PLEBISCITE

Place an X mark in ONE box only

-> [X] Yes, amend the marriage act to allow for same-sex marriage
[ ] No, do not amend the marriage act

Seal the paper in ONE prepaid envelope
Take A DUMP in ONE envelope addressed to your Coalition MP
Mail BOTH envelopes at a post office or in a post office box

# ? Aug 7, 2017 11:02

Starshark: Dec 22, 2005; Doctor Rope

Synthbuttrange posted:

Death to the Liberals

You better not be a public servant.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 11:08

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Anidav posted:

Peter Dutton is basically PM Mussolini at this point.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 11:09

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

# ? Aug 7, 2017 11:25

bandaid.friend: Apr 25, 2017; My first car was a stick

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-07/tent-city-deal-may-have-been-struck-with-homeless/8782346

quote:

The row over a tent city set up in Sydney's Martin Place by homeless people seems to be over with the Lord Mayor saying she has struck a deal, but there appears to be a misunderstanding over its terms.
Clover Moore said the people at the camp have agreed to move on if a 24-hour drop-in space is provided.
Ms Moore said the safe space would not be for sleeping and beds would not be provided.
The camp, which is opposite the Reserve Bank building, will not be dismantled until a space is found.

Ms Moore said the outcome was negotiated with Lanz Priestley who set up the 24-7 Street Kitchen and Safe Space in Martin Place.
However there appears to be confusion about the deal, according to Mr Priestley, who said he believed the safe space would be for sleeping.
Mr Priestley said it was his understanding from his discussions with Ms Moore the safe space would be somewhere for homeless people to transition to.
"If we don't have somewhere for them to sleep, we still have the same problem," he said.
"A safe space includes a space for people to sleep in my mind.
"It's absurd to provide a safe space when they are awake but not when they are asleep."

The Australian says it's an illegal socialist protest that should be broken by police (August 2)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-07/end-of-ice-cream-tradition-as-mr-whippy-told-to-move-on/8781596

quote:

The ice cream van owned by Robbie Staff has been tinkling and dunking on Charlton Esplanade at Hervey Bay for 35 years.
Now Mr Staff's livelihood is under threat and his business is fighting to survive due to council regulations.

Section 6(3) of the Fraser Coast Regional Council Local Law number 1 describes conditions for approval as a mobile food vendor, including:
Not sell, or offer for sale, any food within 200 metres of a retail shop selling the same or similar items of food.

"Like any business, we need to be where there are people. The council might say 'he's got all of Hervey Bay' but it's not of any use being able to trade in locations where there aren't people," he said.
"There would be very few places that we can actually trade that would be more than 200 metres from other places selling ice cream," he said.

The council provided a statement to the ABC regarding the ice cream vendor suggesting it make a submission to a local laws review scheduled for 2018

# ? Aug 7, 2017 11:30

Lightning Lord: Feb 21, 2013; $200 a day, plus expenses

So someone in the libertarian thread said your glorious nation is considering banning boycotts? Is this true? How would it work? If I tell my buddy not to buy something because of ethical reasons, the AFP bust down my door and arrest me?

# ? Aug 7, 2017 11:33

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 09:16

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Lightning Lord posted:

So someone in the libertarian thread said your glorious nation is considering banning boycotts? Is this true? How would it work? If I tell my buddy not to buy something because of ethical reasons, the AFP bust down my door and arrest me?

I think they're taking the piss.

# ? Aug 7, 2017 11:38

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