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Rhadamanthus posted:Does anyone have tips for Tassadar? I just bought him on a whim and he seems fun in A.I., but I got slammed in QM. Tassadar is my favorite hero bar none, I think he's my most played, my best, my friends are always excited to see me pick him. If I play a game on him and die a single time or don't get MVP I feel like I usually hosed up somewhere. I usually play QM and according to Hotslogs I have a Master QM MRR with a 55% WR with Tassadar, my average score is 3-17-1. Here's how I usually play him: 1: Templar's Will is by far the best talent no matter what. It gives him much more damage output and a permanent mana engine. When laning you want to be just outside of range of your opponent and storming waves while auto-attacking anyone in your range as safely as possible as often as possible to stack up this talent. If you are in a big pile up lane sometimes you can stack it absurdly fast and then you hit a really fast power spike and people don't expect it. 4: Khala's Embrace (Green Shield - Lifesteal): I get this 90% of the time unless my team is severely lacking heroes that auto attack to the point that it doesn't make sense (we have like 2 tanks and a mage and a support or something) and then I get the Khala's Celerity (Blue - Move Speed) one. You can put this on your self and basically 1v1 any hero at level 4 with Templar's Will/Khala's Embrace. You can bait people into fighting you and just trash them, and if for some reason you lose you just hit E really fast and cut back to the fountain and try again. I win a lot of early solo duels with this talent combination especially against really hyper aggressive Malthael, Butcher, and Illidan players. Tassadar puts those kind of characters in a trash bin. --- 7-End: Multiple Paths (summary of skills and ideas) 1) Oracle / Archon / Oracle / Oracle / Prismatic Link -- This is a really strong build. Makes your cooldowns cycle fast, makes your auto attacks really strong, makes your team fight presence when you pop Archon and Oracle an absolute terror, you basically win late game team fights solo if you get off a few seconds of full rotation damage. 2) Psi Storm / Force Wall / Nullification / Armor Reduction Psi Storm / Shield Battery -- This is a really good team fighting build that is great against a lot of melee assassins and/or high aoe damage and is more support focused. You wall to disrupt enemy initiation and escape, you nullify their main melee damage dealer on arrival, you spray armor reduction and slow over their main team fight area, and you pop an AOE Shield when your team engages or eats their first big AOE ultimate. If your team has a second support or is very durable, the first build is usually better because you can be a lot more of a high threat team fighter and can control vision and targets very effectively. If you are the only support on your team and you are worried about a lot of high priority threats (especially ones that will disrupt you if you try to go hard with the Archon build) then the second build is usually better because you can directly manipulate team fights with single and multi-target damage mitigation, fight control, and area denial. ---- The talents I didn't mention at any point I don't think are ever worth picking. I've tried them all. None of them perform as good singularly or collectively as one of these two paths or a hybrid adaptation of the two based on situational analysis. I've played my Tassadar in a few goon groups and I don't think I died in any of those games either. I would take my Tassadar up against anything confidently. If you wanna play or have any other questions let me know.
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Mosh Pit is easily my favorite ult in this game. It's totally susceptible to CC but when you get the entire team dancing...
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Aug 7, 2017 16:20
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Pro hots player Bakery has some really good analysis of HGC games: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrkbStrzEzYDtZwEXujlWfN51_5NzsH_S Each one is a 2-3 minute analysis of a fight, the important decisions and plays that decided who won. e: looks like Dunktrain did some good analysis as well. I'll check it out later, but dropping here for y'all: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6s2yhs/in_case_you_missed_it_dunktrain_did_western_clash/ BrianBoitano fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Aug 7, 2017 17:38
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I suck using alark's w... I really like him, and if I wasn't so lovely with his w... It would be worth me actually playing him 
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Aug 7, 2017 19:34
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fyallm posted:I suck using alark's w... I really like him, and if I wasn't so lovely with his w... It would be worth me actually playing him It is really, really unintuitive to use. You have to click and drag, and THEN use your Q. I found it much easier to do his combo after setting his Q to be quickcast so that you automatically target where you dragged to.
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Aug 7, 2017 19:42
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Having gotten 40 heroes to level 5 Alarak is one of the three I can't stand playing (the others are Auriel and Abathur... haven't done Arthas yet but the letter A seems cursed). Telekinesis is obviously an extremely powerful ability, it's just very, very hard to QM with no mobility.
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Aug 7, 2017 19:45
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His W really feels like one of those abilities that benefits from the On Release quickcast setting. Aim and hold the button for a split second, and give your mouse a flick in the desired direction at the same time. Of course I'm poo poo at landing it all the same so it's probably wise not to listen to me, as always. 
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Aug 7, 2017 19:50
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No Wave posted:Having gotten 40 heroes to level 5 Alarak is one of the three I can't stand playing (the others are Auriel and Abathur... haven't done Arthas yet but the letter A seems cursed). Alt + W is a self cast that propels you forward and can be used as an engage or escape. Alarak isn't going to dance around, but he doesn't have "no mobility". Auriel is terrible to QM with because if you don't have a battery you may as well afk.
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Aug 7, 2017 19:58
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Libertine posted:Tassadar is my favorite hero bar none, I think he's my most played, my best, my friends are always excited to see me pick him. If I play a game on him and die a single time or don't get MVP I feel like I usually hosed up somewhere. I usually play QM and according to Hotslogs I have a Master QM MRR with a 55% WR with Tassadar, my average score is 3-17-1. Here's how I usually play him: Any arguments for force wall upgrade at 20? I don't play tassadar but I've definitely been walled to death at 20 before and it looked pretty fun for him.
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Aug 7, 2017 20:01
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Olaf The Stout posted:Any arguments for force wall upgrade at 20? I don't play tassadar but I've definitely been walled to death at 20 before and it looked pretty fun for him. It's good it's just not as good as the two utility picks (in my opinion). Force Wall can last 2 seconds and is already on an 8 second cooldown. The upgrade makes it 3 second cooldown and realistically you don't need to re-wall every 3 seconds to have the impact you need. One wall usually wins or loses a fight if it's a good one. A second wall usually decisively closes out a fight if you won the first part of the skirmish. I'd rather have the AOE Shield or the chain attack then have the Wall again 5 seconds earlier. The pacing of fights you usually don't need the extra wall that fast or the extra length.
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Aug 7, 2017 20:09
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The only time I've ever gotten a ton of work out of the wall upgrade is when playing with an Auriel on voice comms, because on-demand D-strike stuns is rad as gently caress.
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Aug 7, 2017 20:23
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fyallm posted:I suck using alark's w... I really like him, and if I wasn't so lovely with his w... It would be worth me actually playing him 
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Aug 7, 2017 21:22
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Great to hear it is not just me being terrible with it.. I never thought of using Alt+w that is a great idea, thanks!
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Aug 7, 2017 21:26
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On the subject, I've tried to get myself used to Quickcasting everything, is this always going to be preferable to clickmashing or are there exceptions?
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Aug 7, 2017 21:35
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Libertine posted:It's good it's just not as good as the two utility picks (in my opinion). Yeah I got him to level 20 in a game recently, I had been grabbing all the upgrades to the basic including Force Wall, and grabbed the chain and I went from whatever on my numbers to the highest siege and hero damage as I just tore through everything all of a sudden.
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Aug 7, 2017 21:45
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Kyrosiris posted:The only time I've ever gotten a ton of work out of the wall upgrade is when playing with an Auriel on voice comms, because on-demand D-strike stuns is rad as gently caress. Diablo/Tassadar is mean as hell for the same reason.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:20
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Trade Chat Troll posted:On the subject, I've tried to get myself used to Quickcasting everything, is this always going to be preferable to clickmashing or are there exceptions? On-release for everything, no exceptions
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Aug 7, 2017 22:31
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The difference between on-release and full Quickcast is about a tenth to a quarter of a second if you release the key as soon as you press it. It probably won't make a difference unless you're rolling around Master.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:31
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Power Bottom posted:The difference between on-release and full Quickcast is about a tenth to a quarter of a second if you release the key as soon as you press it. It probably won't make a difference unless you're rolling around Master. I find I flub stuff like cursed bullet or snipe more often if it's on on-release as opposed to quickcast, like i'll slightly move the mouse before lifting my finger i dunno.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:35
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I personally have it set up like this: If I know the ability's range/area of effect by heart, it's Quick Cast. If I need to be able to cast the ability in such a way that it only hits specific targets or if it's a long-cooldown ability that I have to cast perfectly the first time, it's On Release. If it's Azmodan's Q, it's Click Cast.
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Aug 8, 2017 01:12
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I always just push myself to Q people as Alarak. No one ever expects the suicidal stupid Alarak picker.
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Aug 8, 2017 01:58
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Spudd posted:I always just push myself to Q people as Alarak. No one ever expects the suicidal stupid Alarak picker. I mean, I've definitely done that before to get a horizontal triple hit where pushing/pulling them wouldn't have made it possible, it's not the worst idea ever.
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Aug 8, 2017 02:02
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Spudd posted:I always just push myself to Q people as Alarak. No one ever expects the suicidal stupid Alarak picker. I think that every time I've managed to hit 3+ enemies with a single Q was doing that. They all scatter when it lands, I finish a quest in one shot, and usually manage to get away after doing so.
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Aug 8, 2017 02:07
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Just turn everything to autocast and adapt. It's got a learning curve, but for me, it wasn't as bad as I expected, and I feel my play improved when I made the change.
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Aug 8, 2017 03:40
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BrianBoitano posted:What I like in low Plat: I would add: Support: Malfurion, Rehgar Warrior: Johanna, Taunt Varian Specialist: Zagara for Hanamura/Braxis Holdout, Nazeebo for 3 lane maps Assassin: Valla, one of Kaelthas/Jaina/Li-Ming/Guldan
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Aug 8, 2017 03:48
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Power Bottom posted:The difference between on-release and full Quickcast is about a tenth to a quarter of a second if you release the key as soon as you press it. It probably won't make a difference unless you're rolling around Master. I am by no means at a Master level, but I switched it to quickcast for Tracer's Blink to make zipping around smoother. That's one of the few situations where I felt on-release was holding me back.
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Aug 8, 2017 09:35
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Been trying out Auriel after the new free rotation and I really like playing her. It's fun to have a healer who doesn't rely on mana and I like to aoe poo poo. Seems quite expensive to buy though.
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I do on release simply because it lets you aim skillshots way better. We had an all Tyrande Brawl last night and I bucked the mold by going full owl... was messing them up from across the map. We still lost because my team was garbage and had no idea how to play her compared to the other team, but still.
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Star posted:Been trying out Auriel after the new free rotation and I really like playing her. It's fun to have a healer who doesn't rely on mana and I like to aoe poo poo. Seems quite expensive to buy though. The last gold price drop, aside from 15k->10k, was in February. Before that, there was a drop at least once a month. I hope they resume them now that the 2.0 boxes, mega bundles, and stim packs are slowing down. If she happens to go on gem sale, that's the best use of your free gems, unless you know you're going to play a lot in a particular week, in which case buy a 7-day stim.
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Definitely echoing some support for everyone learning Valla, and Tassadar. My brother never played a MOBA before hots and improved a lot focusing on Valla. She's also a good pick into nearly any comp (unless they already have too many dps)
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BrianBoitano posted:The last gold price drop, aside from 15k->10k, was in February. Before that, there was a drop at least once a month. I hope they resume them now that the 2.0 boxes, mega bundles, and stim packs are slowing down.
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Aug 8, 2017 13:59
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No Wave posted:I still think the on-sale legendary is a better deal. You just have to buy them when you see them, and it's probably worth buying that $5 pack to do so for anyone. I tend to agree that any on-sale 7k or 10k gold hero is the best deal. This week Kharazim is on sale, as is Brightwing, who i own. I'm excited for Kharazim though, i enjoy support a lot.
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Aug 8, 2017 16:02
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I didn't even realize getting him to 5 that the whole point of Kherazim's statues is that you can Q to them to escape. Whoops.
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No Wave posted:I didn't even realize getting him to 5 that the whole point of Kherazim's statues is that you can Q to them to escape. Whoops. No. You q to them to engage.
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Aug 8, 2017 16:16
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The real benefit to Tass' 20 wall upgrade is its range!
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Aug 8, 2017 16:38
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Many thanks to everyone who chimed in with Tassadar tips, I had a few great rounds just straight-up melting people.
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Aug 8, 2017 16:40
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The patch just dropped! ...and battle.net is down for maintenance. Why would you hurt me like this Blizzard  Garrosh so close yet so far
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Aug 8, 2017 16:45
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Say it with me, now: NO MORE HANAMURA IN RANKED
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Aug 8, 2017 17:35
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Power Bottom posted:Say it with me, now: Even better - they're removing it from all modes indefinitely: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20758516517
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Is that true? When does no more Hanmura go live?
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