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Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

Halloween Jack posted:

Huh. Well, I want to officially be a part of a socialist organization, but I do actually want to get involved in organizing and not have it being a gesture of self-satisfaction.

I mean it would be hilarious if I could just force people at meetings to listen to me read On the Juche Idea, but...

The simplest thing you can do is show up. Chapters should be having public meetings for talking to the community, and internal ones for planning actions. Any member is going to be welcome to attend any of those, though depending on the chapter's process, you may have to get an explicit role before you can accomplish much to organize them.

As for how to actually do that, I haven't read them yet myself, but you could start with their organizing manual and Hegemony How-To.

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net work error: Feb 26, 2011

If I join the DSA does that mean I'm a communist?

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Iridium: Apr 4, 2002; Wretched Harp

net work error posted:

If I join the DSA does that mean I'm a communist?

god willing

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jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

net work error posted:

If I join the DSA does that mean I'm a communist?

the day will come

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big black turnout: Jan 13, 2009; Fallen Rib

net work error posted:

If I join the DSA does that mean I'm a communist?

only if you say the one weird, secret word: comrade

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R. Guyovich: Dec 25, 1991

net work error posted:

If I join the DSA does that mean I'm a communist?

you'll be called a communist by reactionary twits so you might as well go all the way imo

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Agnosticnixie: Jan 6, 2015

R. Guyovich posted:

you'll be called a communist by reactionary twits so you might as well go all the way imo

Also even for all the sectarian fight-play, even the fractious left can sort of manage to find common cause so more people getting radicalized in ways that aren't just vague populism is good.

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Iridium: Apr 4, 2002; Wretched Harp

https://twitter.com/austin_DSA/status/894607436023308288

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The Dipshit: Dec 21, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

Yeah, I looked at what was going on in the Texas Statewide DSA facebook group, and they closed the thread when somebody asked about it.

Hoo boy. Hopefully he can do something like "step down, run next national meeting as people learn who he is" or something. Hopefully he doesn't make it all about him being wronged or something.

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empireofcrime: Nov 3, 2015; The crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood.

Iridium posted:

https://twitter.com/austin_DSA/status/894607436023308288

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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

"Now, anyway." What a bunch of yahoos. What a mobocracy.

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surfacelevelspeck: Oct 1, 2008; communism's sleepiest soldier

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

Yeah, I looked at what was going on in the Texas Statewide DSA facebook group, and they closed the thread when somebody asked about it.

Hoo boy. Hopefully he can do something like "step down, run next national meeting as people learn who he is" or something. Hopefully he doesn't make it all about him being wronged or something.

Danny is and always will be a staunch supporter of the cause. He would never say or do anything if he believed for a microsecond that it could potentially harm DSA. I am not a part of Austin DSA leadership, just a member, but knowing Danny, he's talking to the NPC so they can determine what is the best possible way forward.

It's loving sickening to see so-called comrades, whom I just spent 4 days in solidarity with, completely throw everything we're supposed to be out the window to race to be the first to condemn someone without information.

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Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Syndlig posted:

Danny is and always will be a staunch supporter of the cause. He would never say or do anything if he believed for a microsecond that it could potentially harm DSA. I am not a part of Austin DSA leadership, just a member, but knowing Danny, he's talking to the NPC so they can determine what is the best possible way forward.

It's loving sickening to see so-called comrades, whom I just spent 4 days in solidarity with, completely throw everything we're supposed to be out the window to race to be the first to condemn someone without information.

Counterpoint get rid of the fuckin cop you narc

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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og80U3R5n8E

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big black turnout: Jan 13, 2009; Fallen Rib

Syndlig posted:

Danny is and always will be a staunch supporter of the cause. He would never say or do anything if he believed for a microsecond that it could potentially harm DSA. I am not a part of Austin DSA leadership, just a member, but knowing Danny, he's talking to the NPC so they can determine what is the best possible way forward.

It's loving sickening to see so-called comrades, whom I just spent 4 days in solidarity with, completely throw everything we're supposed to be out the window to race to be the first to condemn someone without information.

slightly nicer counterpoint: maybe he shouldn't've loving hidden it behind weasel words. he was the one who broke trust and solidarity, not those calling him out for doing so

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big black turnout: Jan 13, 2009; Fallen Rib

like we don't even really need to have a conversation about whether cop members are acceptable, he broke trust

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Venom Snake: Feb 19, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Phi230 posted:

Counterpoint get rid of the fuckin cop you narc

He's not a cop

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Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Venom Snake posted:

He's not a cop

Counterpoint yes he is

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Venom Snake: Feb 19, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Phi230 posted:

Counterpoint yes he is

He worked with CLEAT and EMTs also fall under CLEAT

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Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Venom Snake posted:

He worked with CLEAT and EMTs also fall under CLEAT

All I hear is cops

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The Dipshit: Dec 21, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

Syndlig posted:

Danny is and always will be a staunch supporter of the cause. He would never say or do anything if he believed for a microsecond that it could potentially harm DSA. I am not a part of Austin DSA leadership, just a member, but knowing Danny, he's talking to the NPC so they can determine what is the best possible way forward.

It's loving sickening to see so-called comrades, whom I just spent 4 days in solidarity with, completely throw everything we're supposed to be out the window to race to be the first to condemn someone without information.

Eh, I'm sure it'll all shake out in a few days.

The internet makes you stupid and all, and this is probably a normal thing blown up to silly season because twitter is pretty much designed to be ricochet stupidity.

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Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

how many central committee members were on the Okhrana payroll? imo we should elect more cops to match

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Venom Snake: Feb 19, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Phi230 posted:

All I hear is cops

I'm actually the reincarnation of Jay Edger Hoover

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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

quote:

Toward evening the direct charges against Ross were made, not by the leaders of the Party, but by Ross's friends, those who knew him best! It was crushing. Ross wilted. His emotions could not withstand the weight of the moral pressure. No one was terrorized into giving information against him. They gave it willingly, citing dates, conversations, scenes. The black mass of Ross's wrongdoing emerged slowly and irrefutably.

The moment came for Ross to defend himself. I had been told that he had arranged for friends to testify in his behalf, but he called upon no one. He stood, trembling; he tried to talk and his words would not come. The hall was as still as death. Guilt was written in every pore of his black skin. His hands shook. He held on to the edge of the table to keep on his feet. His personality, his sense of himself, had been obliterated. Yet he could not have been so humbled unless he had shared and accepted the vision that had crushed him, the common vision that bound us all together.

"Comrades," he said in a low, charged voice, "I'm guilty of all the charges, all of them."

His voice broke in a sob. No one prodded him. No one tortured him. No one threatened him. He was free to go out of the hall and never see another Communist. But he did not want to. He could not. The vision of a communal world had sunk down into his soul and it would never leave him until life left him. He talked on, outlining how he had erred, how he would reform.

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Agnosticnixie: Jan 6, 2015

Syndlig posted:

Danny is and always will be a staunch supporter of the cause. He would never say or do anything if he believed for a microsecond that it could potentially harm DSA. I am not a part of Austin DSA leadership, just a member, but knowing Danny, he's talking to the NPC so they can determine what is the best possible way forward.

It's loving sickening to see so-called comrades, whom I just spent 4 days in solidarity with, completely throw everything we're supposed to be out the window to race to be the first to condemn someone without information.

He's still got police ties and he's still omitted that loving massively important piece of info in a bid to get elected to the central committee of an org whose membership lists are going to be very much attractive to the pigs if it keeps growing and pushes more radical politics. He still work for a despicable police frat and minimized it as "organizing state workers"

Agnosticnixie has issued a correction as of 19:48 on Aug 7, 2017

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ChickenOfTomorrow: Nov 11, 2012; god damn it, you've got to be kind

ChickenOfTomorrow has issued a correction as of 06:09 on Aug 5, 2019

# ? Aug 7, 2017 19:46

big black turnout: Jan 13, 2009; Fallen Rib

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

counterpoint: it's loving sickening to discover i voted for someone for whom i never would have voted if they had been honest about their past. i feel hurt and betrayed that so-called comrades would abuse my trust in such a fashion.

i didn't vote because i wasn't there but this rings incredibly true to me

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Impermanent: Apr 1, 2010

yea the ACAB stuff is just an easier, less vulnerable way of saying "you broke my trust." There was a moment for the general membership of the DSA where we didn't think to google each other to look for ties to fascist organizations and it's gone now. And that's for the best, to be honest.

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Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Here's another point if he is an infiltrator then he's a dumb infiltrator and if he is legit he's also dumb for the same reason: he didn't scrub his past

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bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

i honked as I drove past a picket line in solidarity am I in the dsa now

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Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Phi230 posted:

Here's another point if he is an infiltrator then he's a dumb infiltrator and if he is legit he's also dumb for the same reason: he didn't scrub his past

if he's an infiltrator its a long con because he has leftwing activism activities open to googling going back to at least 2010

anyhow i'm hoping this guy goes for the 3rd option of resigning from the cop union/pac

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Impermanent: Apr 1, 2010

unpopular opinion - this guy got in because we don't mean enough campaigns for the NPC.

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BrainParasite: Jan 24, 2003

Syndlig posted:

Danny is and always will be a staunch supporter of the cause. He would never say or do anything if he believed for a microsecond that it could potentially harm DSA. I am not a part of Austin DSA leadership, just a member, but knowing Danny, he's talking to the NPC so they can determine what is the best possible way forward.

It's loving sickening to see so-called comrades, whom I just spent 4 days in solidarity with, completely throw everything we're supposed to be out the window to race to be the first to condemn someone without information.

Look. First, he was not as upfront as he could have been about his previous work. He pretty clearly hid his connection to a police union. It wasn't listed it as explicitly as other jobs in his extensive CV. The right way to do this would've been to get in front of it. You trust him. That's fine. He's done nothing to earn the trust of the organization outside of Austin.

Second, given the history of the left in America, there is broad and justified suspicion of people with connections to the police. He could be asked to compromise membership rolls or private meetings. He might not, but with the job he has there could be significant incentives to do it.

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Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

if he's an infiltrator its a long con because he has leftwing activism activities open to googling going back to at least 2010

anyhow i'm hoping this guy goes for the 3rd option of resigning from the cop union/pac

He made a misrepresentation and that's the real problem here

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Crusader: Apr 11, 2002

BrainParasite posted:

Look. First, he was not as upfront as he could have been about his previous work. He pretty clearly hid his connection to a police union. It wasn't listed it as explicitly as other jobs in his extensive CV. The right way to do this would've been to get in front of it. You trust him. That's fine. He's done nothing to earn the trust of the organization outside of Austin.

Second, given the history of the left in America, there is broad and justified suspicion of people with connections to the police. He could be asked to compromise membership rolls or private meetings. He might not, but with the job he has there could be significant incentives to do it.

the first part follows from the second part too, e.g. I'm wondering *why* he hid his connection; it may just be he realized it looks bad and didn't want to deal with the fallout, but that's a pretty dumb decision if so and should preclude holding his position

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Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

also lmao that the probably first action of the new NPC is a purge

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an actual dog: Nov 18, 2014

Syndlig posted:

Danny is and always will be a staunch supporter of the cause. He would never say or do anything if he believed for a microsecond that it could potentially harm DSA. I am not a part of Austin DSA leadership, just a member, but knowing Danny, he's talking to the NPC so they can determine what is the best possible way forward.

It's loving sickening to see so-called comrades, whom I just spent 4 days in solidarity with, completely throw everything we're supposed to be out the window to race to be the first to condemn someone without information.

you're a loving idiot if you don't know why people are upset

# ? Aug 7, 2017 20:32

unbutthurtable: Dec 2, 2016; Total. Tox. Rereg.; College Slice

Crusader posted:

the first part follows from the second part too, e.g. I'm wondering *why* he hid his connection; it may just be he realized it looks bad and didn't want to deal with the fallout, but that's a pretty dumb decision if so and should preclude holding his position

Yeah, I'm in agreement on this. The intentionally misleading statement is a disqualifier, while the history with CLEAT (I would argue) should just mean no one should vote for the guy.

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a cat youtube: Jun 25, 2013

R. Guyovich posted:

here's the official ranking of texas cities
code:
houston
san antonio











dallas



austin
i've never been to el paso

This is an austinite posting trying to keep Austin weird

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Pollyanna: Mar 5, 2005; Milk's on them.

This bodes quite well for the future of the left in the US.

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