|
derp posted:For whom the bell tolls is pretty meh so far if you look at Hemingway's prose and think mediocre you should probably just give up on books in general because you don't deserve them
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 18:19
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 03:08 |
|
|
lol thou art an expletive how bout my nobel prize now ty
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 18:26
|
|
|
Cloks posted:A friend told me that Kenzaburo Oe was the anti-Murakami. Can anyone familiar with his work tell me which of his books to read first? I feel like Oe's writing has a similar feeling to Murakami while having much more concrete action and feeling a little more purposeful Silent Cry is the only full novel I've read of his and has a good mix of the kind of dreamlike feeling with clear story arcs. Could also start with his short story collection Teach Us to Outgrow Our Madness which would give you a good feel for his themes I started Somersault way before I would have actually appreciated it but not sure if it's worth revisiting
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 18:26
|
|
|
derp posted:lol He read the post. It was bad.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 18:32
|
|
|
While the subject is on - what writers would you guys recommend if I enjoyed Murakami? If it's any help The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle was way more my thing than 1Q84.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 18:34
|
|
|
Palpek posted:While the subject is on - what writers would you guys recommend if I enjoyed Murakami? If it's any help The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle was way more my thing than 1Q84. what particular aspects did you like? There are a few directions to take it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 18:38
|
|
|
1q84 could have been decent with about 500 pages of it cut. Marukami has a very weak willed editor I think. That and 'hard boiled wonderland' were my first and only two Marukami novels, both seemed pulled out of thin air and made no sense in the end and also featured lots of scenes describing cooking, and other mundane aspects of daily life. Did I pick bad choices or is that just his style, cause I feel no drive to try again.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 18:44
|
|
|
Mel Mudkiper posted:Nip the Buds, Shoot the Kids or A Personal Matter Thanks. I'm about a third of the way through 4 3 2 1. It's better than I thought it would be based on thread opinion. I'll have more thoughts when I'm finished.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 18:45
|
|
|
Mel Mudkiper posted:if you look at Hemingway's prose and think mediocre you should probably just give up on books in general because you don't deserve them
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 19:29
|
|
|
Palpek posted:While the subject is on - what writers would you guys recommend if I enjoyed Murakami? If it's any help The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle was way more my thing than 1Q84. Kobo Abe
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 19:30
|
|
|
Lot of people in here with the laughable perspective of 'people who dislike things I like should kill themselves so I can live in the homogeneous world of matching opinions i'm accustomed to.' I do hope my first impression is wrong though cause otherwise I've got 15 more hours of war shenanigans to be bored over.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 19:53
|
|
|
peanut- posted:I generally enjoy him, but I found For Whom the Bell Tolls way overlong for his style. im glad im not the only one who felt this way
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 19:54
|
|
|
How the gently caress would it take you 15 hours to read a 500 page book
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 19:59
|
|
|
Mel Mudkiper posted:How the gently caress would it take you 15 hours to read a 500 page book i'm listening to that one, narration takes a lot longer. I'm currently reading the city in the city which is super great so far.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:04
|
|
|
Books on tape ffs
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:06
|
|
|
Mel Mudkiper posted:Books on tape ffs you're a real crochety old fucker aren't you. What else am I supposed to do with the two hours i have to drive every weekday.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:07
|
|
|
Grizzled Patriarch posted:Kobo Abe love me some Kobo Abe
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:07
|
|
|
Kobo Bae
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:20
|
|
|
derp posted:you're a real crochety old fucker aren't you. What else am I supposed to do with the two hours i have to drive every weekday. Not listen to incomparable masterpieces of literature
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:22
|
|
|
derp posted:i'm listening to that one, narration takes a lot longer. The City and the City is of the "Italo Calvino but written by the stupid" school of literature and is bad.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:23
|
|
|
SoCoRoBo posted:That doesn't describe any of his best work tbf. He definitely has his preoccupations but when he's on form he's genuinely great. I've only read The Plot Against America, but I can recommend that to pretty much anyone.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:25
|
|
|
CestMoi posted:The City and the City is of the "Italo Calvino but written by the stupid" school of literature and is bad. Is that better or worse than the "Borges but stupid" genre? Also have you read any Valeria Luiselli or Enrique Vila-Matas? They both are Borges esque without feeling like a rote freshman impression.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:27
|
|
|
Kobo Abe is cool because he is one of the most sexually hosed up novelists ever
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:28
|
|
|
Mover posted:Kobo Abe is cool because he is one of the most sexually hosed up novelists ever I see your Abe and raise you a Mishima
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:30
|
|
|
Mel Mudkiper posted:Is that better or worse than the "Borges but stupid" genre? I havem't what's good
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:33
|
|
|
CestMoi posted:I havem't what's good i liked brief history of portable literature from vila-matas Tree Goat fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Aug 7, 2017 |
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:34
|
|
|
A Brief History of Portable Literature Faces in the Crowd
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:35
|
|
|
Mel Mudkiper posted:Not listen to incomparable masterpieces of literature well, sorry im not a 23 yo college student who is thunderstruck by the awesmitude of every single book i open. Books are supposed to be entertaining. if not that, then very beautifully written. So far 'for whom the bell tolls' is neither. anyway thanks for doing your part to keep up the stereotype of people who read 'literature'
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:49
|
|
|
Hmmmmm derp is weak. He must be galvanized in the fires of the lit thread
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:51
|
|
|
derp posted:
hell yeah
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:53
|
|
|
pr much true i thought 'hey book thread where people talk about books' not 'hey book thread maybe i can go there and have people call me dumb for enjoying things slightly less/more than they do'
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:54
|
|
|
Ah yeah that was your big mistake This is more of the constant shitpost and claw at each other in a battle for a superficial sense of intellectual superiority thread
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 20:58
|
|
|
Well I am good at shitposting, so maybe if i work hard I can fit in after all
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 21:00
|
|
|
Thats the spirit
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 21:02
|
|
|
it tolls for us in the lit thread
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 21:08
|
|
|
for whom the bell tolls is admirable mostly because if i'm going to read about anglos loving up in the spanish civil war, i'd rather it be hemingway than that rat fink snitch orwell
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 21:18
|
|
|
George Orwell Did Nothing Wrong
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 21:29
|
|
|
I've only read never any end to Paris from vila-matas, but that one was really good.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 21:31
|
|
|
derp posted:Well I am good at shitposting, so maybe if i work hard I can fit in after all you won't understand the lit thread until you finally read aquarium just to shut mel up
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 21:59
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 03:08 |
|
|
fridge corn posted:you won't understand the lit thread until you finally read aquarium just to shut mel up well i live near seattle so maybe i will just for that reason but otherwise it sounds like just the opposite of whatever im interested in.
|
|
#
?
Aug 7, 2017 22:05
|
|