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mehall posted:Few things better than casting this on a Serra Avatar. Blightsteel Colossus 
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mehall posted:Few things better than casting this on a Serra Avatar. Rakdos Charm after an Ajani, Caller of the Pride ult.
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Aug 7, 2017 21:39
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This Mirri seems quite good? 3/2 First Strike for 3 is a solid rate on the body and the effect is potentially very relevant in its colors. I guess the issue is more that EDH is not often a format decided by efficient small dudes, and when tokens goes off it probably wants to do so hard enough that the opposing board states are unlikely to matter.
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Aug 7, 2017 21:51
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Mikujin posted:But if Numot is your commander how do you play Glistening Oil? I actually had a 5 color variant that used Karona as the commander. Here's the list: 1 Abrupt Decay 1 Act of Treason 1 Blatant Thievery 1 Blind Obedience 1 Bribery 1 Chainer's Edict 1 Chainer, Dementia Master 1 Citadel of Pain 1 Coalition Relic 1 Council's Judgment 1 Damnation 1 Diplomatic Escort 1 Diplomatic Immunity 1 Drown in Sorrow 1 Duneblast 1 Eldrazi Monument 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Fact or Fiction 1 False Peace 1 Formation 1 Glistening Oil 1 Goblin Kaboomist 1 Gurmag Drowner 1 Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer 1 Incite Rebellion 1 Incite War 1 Infiltrate 1 Inquisition of Kozilek 1 Invasion Plans 1 Iroas, God of Victory 1 Jeskai Infiltrator 1 Jihad 1 Karona, False God 1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth 1 Lightmine Field 1 Lust for War 1 Martial Coup 1 Mass Appeal 1 Master Warcraft 1 Military Intelligence 1 Minister of Pain 1 Misinformation 1 Mizzium Mortars 1 Mortarpod 1 Nin, the Pain Artist 1 Numot, the Devastator 1 Outpost Siege 1 Pain // Suffering 1 Palace Siege 1 Powerstone Minefield 1 Profaner of the Dead 1 Profit // Loss 1 Reparations 1 Secure the Wastes 1 Sol Ring 1 Sword of War and Peace 1 To Arms! 1 Vandalize 1 Victorious Destruction 1 Vindicate 1 War Flare 1 War Report 1 War's Toll 1 Wrath of God 1 Bazaar of Baghdad 1 Blood Crypt 1 Bloodstained Mire 1 Breeding Pool 1 City of Brass 1 Contested War Zone 1 Desert 1 Flooded Strand 1 Forest 1 Godless Shrine 1 Hallowed Fountain 1 Island 1 Mana Confluence 1 Mountain 1 Opulent Palace 1 Overgrown Tomb 1 Plains 1 Polluted Delta 1 Sacred Foundry 1 Steam Vents 1 Stomping Ground 1 Swamp 1 Temple Garden 1 Temple of Abandon 1 Temple of Deceit 1 Temple of Enlightenment 1 Temple of Epiphany 1 Temple of Malady 1 Temple of Malice 1 Temple of Mystery 1 Temple of Plenty 1 Temple of Silence 1 Temple of Triumph 1 Watery Grave 1 Windswept Heath 1 Wooded Foothills Try to guess some of the representative cards. 
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Aug 7, 2017 21:55
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The Shortest Path posted:Blightsteel Colossus Blightsteel is why I started putting Delirium into my BR decks.
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Aug 7, 2017 21:58
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Sickening posted:I am over the ultra pro eclipse. They get too sticky for some weird reason. They also get this weird smell... Back to sleeve chat for another moment The ultra pro eclipse are awesome when you first get them - great shuffle feel and the cards sleeve well but after a couple rounds they seem to just get dirty without any reason. A friend bought a pack before a prerelease and gave me half and we both were impressed until about round 4. They're just magnets for dust, dirt, anything floating around in the air. Never had this problem with the old KMC Hyper Mattes. I am still bummed that they sold the company and the new owners changed how they made the sleeves. Luckily I have about 10 older red packs left. When I run out I'm switching to dragon shields.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:17
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Dehtraen posted:Back to sleeve chat for another moment Yeah. Same feelings. I'm on dragonshield for now. Wish they had matte fronts though
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Aug 7, 2017 22:18
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ThePeavstenator posted:The stuff in the EDH decks are still relevant to a lot of people in this thread just from a legacy and vintage pov. They've traditionally been great for cube too but tribal this year and last year's four color theme, blah. So the eclipse hype didn't live up? Was thinking of resleeving the cube and dragonshields are a pain with double sleeves, kmcs suck now, ultra pros apparently continue to suck, what's the best option? I'm thinking it may be just continue with old KMCs until I'm out of replacements. So dirty though.......
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Aug 7, 2017 22:39
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Wash your hands you nerds.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:46
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PJOmega posted:Wash your hands you nerds. And your playmats if they get dirty.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:52
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I've had my highlander deck sleeved in Ultra Pro Eclipse sleeves for two months now, and I play and shuffle that thing quite a lot. I have had zero problems with the sleeves. They don't stick, they don't split and they haven't gotten any dirtier than you'd expect from 2 months of solid use. So yeah, in short: PJOmega posted:Wash your hands you nerds. TwistedNails posted:And your playmats if they get dirty.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:56
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You could Howard Hughes your sleeves and playmats and after enough use they're going to get cloudy/dirty. Fun fact: washing your hands does not remove all oils from them nor remove dust in the air e: ya, not talking two months. Last time I resleeved my cube was about two years ago and cube is gonna be different than one guy playing with his deck. I assure you I only play with clean people. Pontius Pilate fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Aug 7, 2017 22:57
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I like Hungry Lynx a lot more than I do Goblin Spymaster, drat.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:15
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Pontius Pilate posted:Fun fact: washing your hands does not remove all oils from them nor remove dust in the air Oh FFS if the coated plastic you're handling is grimed within 4 hours of intermittent touching then the issue isn't lingering oils or dust in the air. Unless the sleeves are literally flaking there shouldn't be noticeable accumulation in a day's worth of playing. It's funny how casino cards handle 4 hours of being handled by drunk patrons in a smoke filled environment and they don't end up looking like they wiped methuseleth's rear end in a top hat. Wash your hands.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:16
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casino cards and sleeves for magic cards: made of the exact same thing, actually
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Aug 7, 2017 23:21
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PJOmega posted:Oh FFS if the coated plastic you're handling is grimed within 4 hours of intermittent touching then the issue isn't lingering oils or dust in the air. Unless the sleeves are literally flaking there shouldn't be noticeable accumulation in a day's worth of playing. Other sleeve like the old kmc's and new dragon shields don't have this behavior so I have no clue what the gently caress you are going on about. Different materials are going to produce different results. Sorry this rustles your jimmies.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:38
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Wow my new sleeves look great! *instantly coated by a thick layer of airborne particulate matter* Well that's just how things go, no way to counteract this.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:39
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How do you clean a playmat without ruining it
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Aug 7, 2017 23:49
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Foreskin Problems posted:How do you clean a playmat without ruining it Washing machine? Throw it in for a gentle cycle. Hell, i even use the dryer with mine too on low heat. Works like a charm.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:53
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The small Asian woman who runs the laundromat will probably not be down for that
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Aug 7, 2017 23:55
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I have a million unused playmats from attending events but I only used my signed Savannah mat for about a year and it never got dirty at all. Now I have a leather wyrmwood mat my wife bought me for a birthday so I can wipe that thing down with a rag. I'm picky about not putting food or nasty stuff on my mats though.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:56
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My eclipse sleeved decks have picked up a lot of dirt and shmoo in a few weeks worth of fnms where my kmc and dragonshield sleeves have been perfectly fine. I thought the eclipses would be the way to go, but a lot of them have bent corners already on top of the grime issue. I'm gonna go back to dragonshields for now.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:56
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It's so astonishing how a single bottle of handsoap will keep a LGS bathroom stocked for a month. It's like Hannukah or something. Seriously though, if your sleeves are getting gunked within 4 hours of play and you aren't playing inside an unventilated yurt with a wood burning stove and using a well oiled lambskin as a playmat it isn't the sleeves. It isn't the air. It's your hands. Wash them.
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Aug 7, 2017 23:58
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Willeh posted:My eclipse sleeved decks have picked up a lot of dirt and shmoo in a few weeks worth of fnms where my kmc and dragonshield sleeves have been perfectly fine. Eclipse sleeves feel better, but they pick up more gunk just because they're smoother. After a dozen drafts, I had to throw mine away because they felt like wet tissue paper, though they probably would've lasted a lot longer if it wasn't summer with the usual AC issues. Plus they're hard to find right now; a friend of mine who works for a distributor told me they had issues with colors fading at different rates, and something about the inside black part rubbing off on cards in some batches, so UltraPro is getting that fixed. They feel super satisfying to shuffle and I probably ruined their lifespan by habitually shuffling between rounds. Maybe I should just get a fidget spinner or something, drat. Dragon Shield Matte sleeves don't feel quite as good, but if I were sleeving a cube that needed to last a hundred drafts or whatever, I'd throw some black or dark blue ones on it because they're the longest lasting I've used.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:03
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Sickening posted:Washing machine? Throw it in for a gentle cycle. Hell, i even use the dryer with mine too on low heat. Works like a charm. This, and if you don't have a washing machine then wash them in the sink. Get a mild normal non bleach detergent and put a little in a sink of warm water and soak it then ring it out/squeeze it out and do it again. Hang it up to dry after a few times in the soapy water and a good rinse.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:16
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BJPaskoff posted:Eclipse sleeves feel better, but they pick up more gunk just because they're smoother. After a dozen drafts, I had to throw mine away because they felt like wet tissue paper, though they probably would've lasted a lot longer if it wasn't summer with the usual AC issues. Plus they're hard to find right now; a friend of mine who works for a distributor told me they had issues with colors fading at different rates, and something about the inside black part rubbing off on cards in some batches, so UltraPro is getting that fixed. They feel super satisfying to shuffle and I probably ruined their lifespan by habitually shuffling between rounds. Maybe I should just get a fidget spinner or something, drat. I'm with you in the 'these sleeves shuffle so good I have to do it all the time' boat  They have vanished from stores here too, I'm probably gonna try them again in a few months to see if they hold up better.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:20
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PJOmega posted:Oh FFS if the coated plastic you're handling is grimed within 4 hours of intermittent touching then the issue isn't lingering oils or dust in the air. Unless the sleeves are literally flaking there shouldn't be noticeable accumulation in a day's worth of playing. Did you just willfully ignore the rest of my post?
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Aug 8, 2017 00:26
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Pontius Pilate posted:Did you just willfully ignore the rest of my post? The post that started this talked about 4 rounds, not a year under "Howard Hughes" conditions. Sorry you're getting upset by some greaseball being told to wash his hands.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:30
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Can we just agree that sleeves get dirty after a while instead of tossing the hyperbole around? This is terrible even considering that the last discussion was about Commander. I'm washing my hands of this topic.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:31
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Pontius Pilate posted:Did you just willfully ignore the rest of my post? He is just going to repeat himself over and over despite nobody is trying to argue against washing their hands.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:31
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IMO basic hygiene reminders is a good posting gimmick. Brush your teeth.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:39
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GoutPatrol posted:If you can get whatever the Hareruya sleeves are, those work great. Woah tell me more about these sleeves
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Aug 8, 2017 00:58
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Mezzanon posted:Woah tell me more about these sleeves I've heard they're pretty meh from everyone I know who has them.
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Mezzanon posted:Woah tell me more about these sleeves http://www.hareruyamtg.com/en/c/cSLEEVE/ Play like the pros brah They are the best shuffling sleeves I've ever used. I literally just got off the plane in Osaka and Saturday when I go to Tokyo for the G-1 I'm going to the store to get some and play in the noon tournament, whatever format will fire. GoutPatrol fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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GoutPatrol posted:http://www.hareruyamtg.com/en/c/cSLEEVE/ The corners bend and they bust after like 3games.
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mcmagic posted:The corners bend and they bust after like 3games. Wash your hands, nerd
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:IMO basic hygiene reminders is a good posting gimmick. Stop putting the cards in your mouth
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Aug 8, 2017 02:05
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Lone Goat posted:Stop putting the cards in your mouth What, you don't use empty perfect fits to floss? Much better than the stupid rope imo
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Aug 8, 2017 02:07
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Lawnie posted:What, you don't use empty perfect fits to floss? Much better than the stupid rope imo
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Lawnie posted:What, you don't use empty perfect fits to floss? Much better than the stupid rope imo Aces.
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