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gegi posted:Funnily my greatest hatred of a tricky climbing segment in King's Quest comes from a screen that can't actually kill the character... but might kill the player out of sheer frustration. Love that they were totally aware of this and parodied the hell out of it in LSL3
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Really it's the shark screen that irritates me the most. What you have to do in order to live feels like cheating.
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Bloops Crusts posted:Whale tongue is total crap and the fact that it's paired with golden bridle might make that the most bullshit part of the entire series. I think I spent upwards of like 6 hours trying to solve the second thing you mentioned there. Even after getting through the first thing. KQ4 was cool in a lot of places but that was not one of em.
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Aug 6, 2017 23:41
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Discendo Vox posted:Have there been LPs of the LSL series? Someone, I think they went by Mouser, was doing a series LP years ago but petered out halfway through 6.
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y'all will need archives to see it but yes Mouser did try to get through the whole series (and got quite far, considering) can be found here
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 Hello everyone and welcome to the final update of King's Quest III.  : Whoops, you slipped.That first step is kind of a mean trick. Sure falling doesn't hurt you, but you still fall a single frame after entering the screen. Not cool, game.  So let's go to the left for no particular reason.  While I never showed off the AGI version of King's Quest I, there's no mistaking this screen. Looks like Graham had the well filled in sometime in the past 17 years. >look : The countryside of Daventry looks as if it had once been beautiful. But now, trees are charred, a chasm splits the earth, and wildflowers no longer grow. Nearby is an old, broken-down well that someone has filled with rocks. It's useless now. Pictured, Graham's Daventry.  >look : Gwydion stares at the run-down shack. Upon the porch, a withered gnome rocks in a creaky old rocking chair, whistling a merry tune. The shack leans heavily to one side and Gwydion wonders why it doesn't fall.We'll talk to the gnome momentarily. First...  The castle. >knock on door : Gwydion loudly raps upon the massive wooden doors of the castle, Hollowly, emptily, the sound reverberates within. No one answers.>open door : The huge doors of the castle are bolted shut. Try as he might, Gwydion cannot open them.So no tearful reunion while Rosella is in danger.  A neat touch I like is that the castle garden has some plants from Kolyma in it.  Anyway, let's go talk to the gnome.>talk to gnome  : Er, hello. Am I right in guessing that this is Daventry?: The gnome chuckes softly to himself before replying. : It's about time you got here lad... I mean, Prince Alexander. Welcome home! Heaven knows, we need you. Daventry's been suffering for years now since that despicable dragon came.: The old gnome narrows his eyes to slits and leans forward in his chair.: That monster demanded the sacrifice of your sister, Princess Rosella, and I'm afraid time is running out. Your parents, the King and Queen, are suffering from such grief that they have locked themselves in yon castle and refuse to see anyone. It's up to you, Alexander. Your country and family need you. It's written in the wind.: The wizened gnome relaxes and settles back in his chair. He begins whistling again. So looks like we have our work cut out for us. It also looks like Graham is the worst king imaginable. Wouldn't it have been prudent to, y'know, call up the kingdom's levies and march a whole army up to deal with the dragon? Surely hiding in the castle and acquiescing to every stupid demand the beast makes is the worst possible thing to do. This is why armies exist in the first place.  Me, during King's Quest I posted:In the 1984 release, the caves weren't a stupid platforming segment. They were, instead, just a couple screens where Graham had to walk up a staircase in the mountain. The Dwarf could still ambush you, but it was a lot harder to fall down. Welcome, then, to the AGI staircase.  To be fair I didn't say it was impossible to fall off, just harder. : Darn those steps!If you die on the first step... which I totally didn't do. Definitely not me, no. Anyway if you die on the first step, there's a different message. : Watch that first step, it's a dilly!  : It feels strangely hot up here.It's fully possible to come up here before you see the well, or meet Ifnkovhgroghprm. So the first hint you were actually in Daventry very well could be seeing Cloudland. >look : Looking around. Gwy--Alexander sees clouds surrounding this small bit of land like a white, cottony sea. Charred stumps of trees spoil the scene. : This mystical cloud land may never cease to amaze you, but... : ...it has ceased to support you. Enjoy the trip!Okay that's legitimately funny.  : A huge, fire-breathing dragon is here and it has SEEN Alexander! Hypnotized by its baleful glare, he stands frozen in his tracks. What a way to go; ending up as a dragon's barbeque! Alright so, a frontal assault won't work, and random teleportation doesn't sound useful in this circumstance. Our transformation essence is gone, our sleeping powder is gone, and the language dough isn't useful here either. The transfiguration cookie has been gone for more than half an hour at this point, so all we're left with is...  Looking around, there's plenty of fire and embers. And if clouds don't count for mist, then nothing ever will. So stealth mode engage! >rub ointment on self   Alright, so the now-invisible Alexander can at least move around on the same screen without incident.  I wonder if we can sneak Rosella away... >talk to girl : She can't hear you. She's too busy screaming.Fair enough. >untie girl  : The dragon notices Princess Rosella being untied, and blasts both her and Alexander with a long, licking tongue of flame.Let's do it right this time. The invisibility ointment only works for a very short period of time. You've got maybe a minute at best? But... we do have another spell at our disposal. I briefly showed it off on the ship, but it's otherwise been unused up to this point. >stir brew with finger >brew of storms churn it up  : Bolts of lightning strike the huge dragon. He howls in pain and falls to the ground... dead.: Alexander's magic spell is wearing off!>look dragon : The dragon lies dead upon the ground. He was no match for the fury of Alexander's magical storm!>look girl : The girl is securely tied to the stake.>talk to girl  : Help me!! Untie me!!>untie girl : Alexander rapidly unties Princess Rosella from the wooden pole. She looks bewildered as to who her benefactor may be.: I'm your long-lost brother, Prince Alexander. : Rosella looks doubtful. Any yahoo off the street can, and has, claimed to be her long-lost brother. She was used to the whole song and dance by now, and crossed her arms with a frown.: Realizing that now is not the time, Alexander holds up his hands in an offering of peace.: I'll explain it all later. Just follow me. Let's go meet the folks!: With mixed emotions, and no small amount of healthy skepticism, Rosella agrees. It was better than standing around the corpse of the dragon, at any rate. : How can I be sure you're really my brother? My mother alwyays said that Alexander had a birthmark on his bottom. If you really want to prove you are who you say you are, I need to see it.: Are you serious? You really want our reunion to be me showing you my bare bottom?: Rosella flatly stares at... who even is this kid?: Alexander.: Fine, whatever. Rosella flatly stares at Alexander while the man claiming to be her brother grows more and more visibly uncomfortable.: Alexander finally sighs and shows off his birthmark.: Oh Alexander! You really ARE back! Mum and Dad will be SOOOOOO happy!I did not make that up. Well, not all of it. Naturally, the Lotus didn't have a conversation with Rosella's narrator, but...  Moving on. Time for the last death of the game!  : No fair taking short cuts! Rosella can get lost on the way down the stairs. Don't worry too much about her.   : There's home! Mum and Dad will be SOOOOOO happy!I don't know why, but on this screen, the Smurfs theme starts playing.   : Oh YIPPEE! You did it, your majesty!! I KNEW you could save us all. King Graham and Queen Valanice will be overjoyed to see you two. I must run ahead to announce your arrival! : The castle doors are wide open to welcome home a long-missing son, and a much-loved daughter. Atop the castle, the banners proudly wave. The heavy feeling of oppression is gone; hope has at last returned to Daventry!  : Alexander nerviously enters the throme room with his sister, Princess Rosella. Before the twin thrones stand his parents, King Graham and Queen Valanice. Both parents are overjoyed to see their son.  : Alexander, where have you been all these years? : I'm so proud of both of you! : King Graham points to the mirror.: That was once a magic mirror, son. But, it has been clouded ever since you disappeared from your cradle.Good to know. The one magical treasure that could have helped Graham find Alexander 17 years ago loving broke when it was needed the most. What a useful mirror.  : Before Alexander's astonished eyes, the magic mirror clears, and shines anew with brilliant clarity.: The terrible dragon is dead, and our children are home, and the future looks bright for us all! : King Graham lovingly retrieves his adventurer's hat with the red feather.: Alexander, Rosella, this old hat and I have been through a lot together. Now, it's time he had a new travelling companion.: Graham flings the hat toward his children.  : Congratulations on your successful completion of King's Quest III!!! We hope you have enjoyed playing as much as we enjoyed creating it for you. May the adventuring continue with King's Quest IV!So I'll see you guys next time for King's Quest IV! Total List of Points +1 - Clearing the Table +1 - Mixing bowl +1 - Trusty knife +1 - Serving spoon +1 - I am Bread +1 - Do you want a banana? +1 - Mutton chops! +1 - Fistful of cat fur +4 - >drop all +1 - Fly wings +1 - Gwydion the vain +1 - Rose petal perfume +7 - The faded map +3 - The small brass key +4 - Stealing the wand +5 - Finding the hidden lever +1 - Raiding Manannan's spice rack +10 - Yer a wizard, Gwydion +2 - Dried acorns +5 - Doing Perseus' job +1 - Harvesting peyote +1 - Gwydion the skin collector +2 - This porridge is juuuust right +1 - Stealing a thimble +1 - Getting dew +3 - Hidden ladder +2 - A treefort! +4 - Stealing from bandits +1 - Mistletoe +1 - Streamside mud +1 - Salt water +1 - Pet the dog! +1 - Bought salt +1 - Bought fish oil +1 - Bought lard +1 - Bought pouch +2 - Tail Feather +1 - Mandrake root essence +10 - The world's most disgusting cookie +1 - Powdered fish bone +10 - WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU +1 - Deadly nightshade +10 - Patented sleep powder +12 - We beat the wizard! +3 - Spied on the bandits +5 - Found the rope we used already +4 - Taking the spider for a swim +3 - Prince Gwydion +1 - Powdered toadstools +1 - Toad drool +10 - Kissed a rock +10 - Boiled seawater and put mud in it +10 - Lard makes you invisible +3 - Bought passage from Llewdor +2 - Got on the ship +2 - Climbed up to midlevel +3 - Robbed the pirates +1 - Petty shovel theft +5 - Escaped the pirates +7 - Money in the ground +4 - Confused a yeti +7 - Dragon slaying +3 - Princess rescuing +4 - Homecoming Final Total: 210/210 Total Register of Deaths Pissing off Manannan Tripping over the loving cat x2 Getting stoned in the desert Getting lost in the endless desert Falling from the Tree Fort Being thrown from the tree fort Falling off the mountain path That was a-mew-sing Gwydion sees all The better to hear you with, my dear Eternal slumber Amusing the cat Meow meow meow meow Pissing off the wizard. Again. Falling off the mountain path x2 Teleport accident Storms are brewing on your head x3 Where did you go, Gwydion? x2 Falling out of the crow's nest Drowning Shark bait ooh haa haa Falling off the dick cliffs Falling off the Cloudland steps x2 Falling off Cloudland Dragon barbeque Murder-suicide Taking a shortcut Final Total: 33 Deaths DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 01:07
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So the magic stops working when the king is sad? That's... useful.
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Aug 8, 2017 01:34
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Bloops Crusts posted:Whale tongue is total crap and the fact that it's paired with golden bridle might make that the most bullshit part of the entire series. I remember that KQ4 didn't have as much bullshit as normal in the series, but what bullshit it DID have was serious loving bullshit. On the other hand, most of what I remember about KQ4 scared the poo poo out of me when I was a kid
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Aug 8, 2017 02:38
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DoubleNegative posted:march a whole army up to deal with the dragon? To be fair, it's a three-headed fire breathing dragon. You'd need one heck of an army. (I know King's Quest has very little to do with D&D, but I recently did the math on how many peasant archers it would take to beat even a young dragon in D&D. The answer is somewhere between 400 and infinity, depending on the assumptions you make.)
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Aug 8, 2017 02:47
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DoubleNegative posted:So looks like we have our work cut out for us. It also looks like Graham is the worst king imaginable. Wouldn't it have been prudent to, y'know, call up the kingdom's levies and march a whole army up to deal with the dragon? Surely hiding in the castle and acquiescing to every stupid demand the beast makes is the worst possible thing to do. This is why armies exist in the first place.  Glad to see the end of this one. I've never seen 4 at all so kinda looking forward to it.
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Aug 8, 2017 03:14
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Rosella and Alexander flailing their arms about uselessly always cracks me up. This LP has been great, looking forward to KQ IV! I'm already humming the dwarf house sweeping/cleaning music!
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Aug 8, 2017 03:51
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Glazius posted:So the magic stops working when the king is sad? That's... useful. Pretty sure that Manannan zapped it, after all, if he didn't have a way to mess with it he couldn't have kidnapped Alexander in the first place. Remember, old Manny is one of the most powerful magic users in these games.
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Aug 8, 2017 05:11
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MagusofStars posted:So you're saying that "Just give the throne to whatever dude happens to get back our treasures regardless of his actual knowledge" isn't a good basis for a system of government? Shocking. The old king specifically picked Graham to go find the treasures though.
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Aug 8, 2017 05:29
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grandalt posted:Remember, old Manny is one of the most powerful magic users in these games. ...but can't taste cat hair when he eats it in porridge.
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Aug 8, 2017 05:43
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ulmont posted:...but can't taste cat hair when he eats it in porridge. The man's got a cat that wanders everywhere in the house. He's already used to cat hair getting into everything. Prism fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 05:55
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well thanks for that Prism, I don't ever want to own a cat now 
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Aug 8, 2017 06:19
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Aces High posted:well thanks for that Prism, I don't ever want to own a cat now Cat hair drifts. It's just a fact of life. Water's wet, sky's blue, cat hair gets into everything. Alexander shouldn't have been killed for having cat fur on him because he has some on his clothes at literally all times. I don't live with a cat anymore, but if you let them roam around the kitchen and sleep on the table (and Manannan's cat goes everywhere), you are one day going to have cat hair on something you eat. edit: vvvv also that. Cats like to sit, too. Prism fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 06:32
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Aces High posted:well thanks for that Prism, I don't ever want to own a cat now If you think cat hair everywhere is bad, don't even begin to think about cat butt exposure on various/all surfaces.
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Aug 8, 2017 06:35
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DoubleNegative posted:Wouldn't it have been prudent to, y'know, call up the kingdom's levies and march a whole army up to deal with the dragon? Surely hiding in the castle and acquiescing to every stupid demand the beast makes is the worst possible thing to do. This is why armies exist in the first place. Does Daventry have an army? I mean, it has a total population of about three people.
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Aug 8, 2017 10:39
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The Lone Badger posted:Does Daventry have an army? I mean, it has a total population of about three people. The village with a castle of Daventry isn't very impressive.
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Aug 8, 2017 10:46
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Kavak posted:The village with a castle of Daventry isn't very impressive. Village? Llewdor has a village. Daventry has a house.
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Aug 8, 2017 11:21
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The Lone Badger posted:Village? Llewdor has a village. Daventry has a house. It's true. Daventry basically has the royal family, the drat gnome, and the goat from the first game. And I'm pretty sure that after this game, the gnome fucks off to Serenia, the country to the north of Daventry. EDIT: Oh, right. Expect the first KQIV update later this week. I need to actually sit down and record it first. 
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I am a big fan of all 3 AGDI remakes, but I really wish that they had done 4/IV as well. I realise that it wasn't economically viable to keep making free games with intricate art assets, but I would gladly pay for a remake of IV/4 if not for the legal hang-ups preventing a for-profit model on it. I don't think that 5 and beyond need any remaking, and I still think that 5/V is a pleasant-looking game to this day.MagusofStars posted:So you're saying that "Just give the throne to whatever dude happens to get back our treasures regardless of his actual knowledge" isn't a good basis for a system of government? Shocking. It's right up there with "strange women lying around in ponds, distributing swords"
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Or "listening to weird witches that totally have your best interests in mind"
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Aug 8, 2017 16:47
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JustJeff88 posted:It's right up there with "strange women lying around in ponds, distributing swords" Hey that one mostly worked that one time. Mostly.
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Prism posted:Cat hair drifts. It's just a fact of life. Water's wet, sky's blue, cat hair gets into everything. Alexander shouldn't have been killed for having cat fur on him because he has some on his clothes at literally all times. My left CTRL button once stopped working until I fished a ball of cat hair out from underneath it with a cable tie. OK, it was an old keyboard and a previous cat liked to sleep on it, but still, drat. I hope you enjoyed this pointless anecdote.
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Runcible Cat posted:My left CTRL button once stopped working until I fished a ball of cat hair out from underneath it with a cable tie. OK, it was an old keyboard and a previous cat liked to sleep on it, but still, drat. I did, actually, thank you.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:07
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Manannan has to poop in a box for the rest of his life, feel sorry for him
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Bloops Crusts posted:Manannan has to poop in a box for the rest of his life, feel sorry for him It's a medieval civilization, he practically pooped in a box already.
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Bloops Crusts posted:Manannan has to poop in a box for the rest of his life, feel sorry for him He can poop outside with the rest of the animals!
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KQ4 begins later this evening. But until then, have a shot of the game over screen...
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DoubleNegative posted:KQ4 begins later this evening. But until then, have a shot of the game over screen... Image aside, that's a pretty common GO message for that era of Sierra games.
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OAquinas posted:Image aside, that's a pretty common GO message for that era of Sierra games. What's the feminine equivalent of "pantload?"
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Seyser Koze posted:What's the feminine equivalent of "pantload?" "Hey, remember that game mechanic you had to use once right at the start of the game, which hasn't been the least bit useful ever since, so you forgot that it existed well before the halfway point? Guess what the last thing you have to do in the game is. No, you're going to love this. Just try to figure it out."
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Nidoking posted:"Hey, remember that game mechanic you had to use once right at the start of the game, which hasn't been the least bit useful ever since, so you forgot that it existed well before the halfway point? Guess what the last thing you have to do in the game is. No, you're going to love this. Just try to figure it out." It's games as art; you exit the world as you entered it. Almost poetic. If you're a moron.
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It's like poetry in that they rhyme.
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Pure pottery.
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Kings Quest IV was the first one I ever played, and I played the poo poo out of it as a little kid. I don't really remember any bullshit moments, so I'm really interested in seeing what moments everyone hated about the game.
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 King's Quest III ended on a bit of a cliffhanger. King Graham and Valanice were so happy to have Alexander back after 17 years, and he was just about to pass on the feathered adventurer's cap when the game suddenly ended. King's Quest IV picks up right where III left off. So we'll be seeing not only who got the cap, but the immediate fallout of that event. If you want a slight spoiler, the game's subtitle is "The Perils of Rosella" and we just ended a game where we were controlling Alexander. As far as improvements, we're playing the SCI version of King's Quest IV. You may remember the SCI engine being the one I very, very briefly showed off at the start of King's Quest I. While I'm sure there were all manner of technology improvements with the new engine, the big one here is that typing commands actually pauses the game! Spoilers Don't be a dick. Unlike the previous game, this one doesn't have a lot in the way of plot. There are some good old fashioned dumbass puzzles, though. The Updates #1 - Introduction #2 - Wandering Around #3 - Rosella and the Seven Dwarves #4 - Trading Sequence #5 - A Whale of a Tale #6 - The Unicorn Tamer #7 - Game Ogre #8 - The Cave #9 - Zombies and Ghosts #10 - Pandora's Box #11 - Shot Through the Heart #12 - Savior of Tamir #13 - Savior of Graham DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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