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One group I play with has 2 (out of 4) players who are very traditional about XP and don't want to play a game where you just level up when the DM says so because of reasons they'd be happy to explain to you at length. The DM loudly agreed with them, and has been giving out xp to everyone in differing amounts at the end of each session since the game started. Every single time we've accumulated enough xp to level up, it's been every character at the same time at the end of a plot arc after we fight the end boss and get the loot and move on to the next bit of story. When we levelled to 3, I asked the DM if there was any point actually writing down these xp numbers, and he said "gently caress no, we're milestone levelling, I'm just keeping (those two) happy, you should probably mention it to (other guy)". We're level 12 and the two dudes who care deeply about detailed xp haven't noticed yet.
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OutsideAngel posted:It's bad.
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AlphaDog posted:One group I play with has 2 (out of 4) players who are very traditional about XP and don't want to play a game where you just level up when the DM says so because of reasons they'd be happy to explain to you at length. The DM loudly agreed with them, and has been giving out xp to everyone in differing amounts at the end of each session since the game started. Every single time we've accumulated enough xp to level up, it's been every character at the same time at the end of a plot arc after we fight the end boss and get the loot and move on to the next bit of story. When we levelled to 3, I asked the DM if there was any point actually writing down these xp numbers, and he said "gently caress no, we're milestone levelling, I'm just keeping (those two) happy, you should probably mention it to (other guy)".  beautiful
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Aug 8, 2017 09:53
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OutsideAngel posted:It's bad. I agree but it's so close to good though. If Short Draw conferred advantage to a grapple attack you could wind them with the sword pommel on attack 1, grapple at advantage on attack 2 and then follow up with Close Quarters Combat to stab with the same short sword. The only rule preventing that is the BDD wording itself specifying an attack roll, so I'll just add "attack / ability" roll there with some caveat about DM discretion. PH RAW allows advantage on ability checks so surely it's just another detail they overlooked when writing this homebrew.
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Aug 8, 2017 10:20
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clusterfuck posted:I agree but it's so close to good though. If Short Draw conferred advantage to a grapple attack you could wind them with the sword pommel on attack 1, grapple at advantage on attack 2 and then follow up with Close Quarters Combat to stab with the same short sword. The only rule preventing that is the BDD wording itself specifying an attack roll, so I'll just add "attack / ability" roll there with some caveat about DM discretion. PH RAW allows advantage on ability checks so surely it's just another detail they overlooked when writing this homebrew. What I'm saying is it's 5e as gently caress. Splicer fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 11:41
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Splicer posted:What I'm saying is it's 5e as gently caress. Appropriately enough, the class most buffed by BDD is the loving Cleric, since they don't lost out on any Extra Attack(s) when using the numerous abilities that are performed "as an action".
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Aug 8, 2017 14:14
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OutsideAngel posted:Appropriately enough, the class most buffed by BDD is the loving Cleric, since they don't lost out on any Extra Attack(s) when using the numerous abilities that are performed "as an action".
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Aug 8, 2017 14:57
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AlphaDog posted:One group I play with has 2 (out of 4) players who are very traditional about XP and don't want to play a game where you just level up when the DM says so because of reasons they'd be happy to explain to you at length. The DM loudly agreed with them, and has been giving out xp to everyone in differing amounts at the end of each session since the game started. Every single time we've accumulated enough xp to level up, it's been every character at the same time at the end of a plot arc after we fight the end boss and get the loot and move on to the next bit of story. When we levelled to 3, I asked the DM if there was any point actually writing down these xp numbers, and he said "gently caress no, we're milestone levelling, I'm just keeping (those two) happy, you should probably mention it to (other guy)". I want to frame this.
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Aug 8, 2017 20:40
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Hey guys! I just found out that D&D Beyond gives you a 15% discount if you buy all the books up-front! Only a $279 bargain to buy electronic versions of the books you already have! And holy moly you get a whole 15% off the future ones, too (no, of course they aren't included, this is only the stuff now)! What a steal! I mean, I dunno about you but I can't wait to pay $300 for a character builder! https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/beta-testing-feedback/5743-faq-d-d-beyond-pricing-purchase#c8
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AlphaDog posted:One group I play with has 2 (out of 4) players who are very traditional about XP and don't want to play a game where you just level up when the DM says so because of reasons they'd be happy to explain to you at length. The DM loudly agreed with them, and has been giving out xp to everyone in differing amounts at the end of each session since the game started. Every single time we've accumulated enough xp to level up, it's been every character at the same time at the end of a plot arc after we fight the end boss and get the loot and move on to the next bit of story. When we levelled to 3, I asked the DM if there was any point actually writing down these xp numbers, and he said "gently caress no, we're milestone levelling, I'm just keeping (those two) happy, you should probably mention it to (other guy)". This is perfect in every way. dwarf74 posted:Hey guys! I just found out that D&D Beyond gives you a 15% discount if you buy all the books up-front! I want to be there when they hear about Orc Pub.
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8one6 posted:I get why milestone leveling is popular, but it always makes me laugh that the the same folks who support it are the same one who make fun of all the "ask your GM" stuff in 5e. To me the milestone leveling feels like the ultimate "ask your GM" situation because you can't look at your xp and see you're making progress. It always fell to your DM, because it was always their job to figure out what encounters to put in front of you, how many encounters of what difficulty that should be, etc. and the math and book keeping was never kind to them in doing that job. This actually puts less stress on the DM than a lot of 5e rules do.
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I know for a fact I saw someone ask this exact question in the last month but i'm too lazy to search so: STorm king's thunder on roll20? Pretty good? I've only done one-shots before and I stole maps from reddit or randomly generated them. If it's super already set up that would be incredible. If it's a pile of tokens and map gifs and I gotta scale them all that'd be less ideal.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:53
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I bought Curse of Strahd and one of the Yawning Portal modules, and they were both fully set up. There's basically the whole module text included, if you don't mind reading them as roll20 handout pages. And yeah, the tokens are all statted up with portraits and the maps are scaled and dynamically lit. If you don't want to do a lot of the work for setting up, it's very nice. At least those two were. The only downside is that some of the portraits are uninspired or missing from the more generic NPCs (from Curse of Strahd specifically), which you could fix easily, and that the price is pretty high for a copy of the book you may already have. I didn't have Strahd so I bought it, and it was 50 bucks.
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8one6 posted:I get why milestone leveling is popular, but it always makes me laugh that the the same folks who support it are the same one who make fun of all the "ask your GM" stuff in 5e. To me the milestone leveling feels like the ultimate "ask your GM" situation because you can't look at your xp and see you're making progress. Splicer fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 22:13
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dwarf74 posted:Hey guys! I just found out that D&D Beyond gives you a 15% discount if you buy all the books up-front! Don't buy stuff you already own then.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:56
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MonsterEnvy posted:Don't buy stuff you already own then.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:59
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D&D: Beyond what you should ever have to pay for a roleplaying game
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Aug 9, 2017 00:24
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dwarf74 posted:Unless, you know, you want to use any of it in the builder. Just use the free stuff, or grab the PHB then. Most of the stuff in that 300 are adventures, so just don't get the stuff you already own that you won't use.
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Aug 9, 2017 00:27
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The mind-boggling part is WOTC already had a viable model for online content. They raked in subs with DDI during the 4e era. Just put all the content in one place and charge a few bucks a month, done. But nooo. They finally stumbled on something digital that actually worked so of course they had to gently caress that up.
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WotC is literally the worst company when it comes to understanding the internet. I would say they are even worse than Nintendo.
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To be fair here, WotC is not making this thing. As they agree they are too inept to make a device.
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Do you guys have some good resources for arena challenges / puzzles? I want my players to meet up at the beginning of their adventure in a sort of Olympics venue. I'll have a few NPCs in there, and the point is that they start off unaligned but will hopefully get to know each other and start to team up. Then some catastrophic thing happens at which time they'll either join as a party or let people get killed. I don't know what to do for the challenges. Everything I see assumes the players are already working as a team. I'd like something that's designed as a free-for-all but can benefit players who work together. Any ideas, or should I just start building simple games and let the players have fun with it?
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MonsterEnvy posted:To be fair here, WotC is not making this thing. As they agree they are too inept to make a device. However, they are actively agreeing that this is the way they want it to be. They don't get an out just because they're not coding the thing, this is something they got a proposal for and said, "yeah, this looks like a good idea, go ahead." edit: loving amazing stuff later on. quote:Q12: I already purchased some/all of the sourcebooks in hardback and have proof of purchase - can I get them for free/discount on D&D Beyond? Not even an explanation of how their business model depends on digital sales to succeed and they can't independently verify poo poo, just a flat 'no' quote:Q14: In the future, will buying physical books unlock the content in D&D Beyond (voucher or code in the book)? And a further 'gently caress you' to anyone that thinks it might improve in the future and anyone that might think that this isn't 100% about charging people twice if they wanna use convenient 'official' tools Darwinism fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Oh my god will everyone stop complaining about the three hundred buck character builder, I'm certain WoTC had nothing to do with setting the price and when you think about it really it's not expensive at all if you don't buy it.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Don't buy stuff you already own then. Are you ever right about anything ever? Like do you go to the store to get milk and just come back with hundreds of pineapples? Are you just a machine learning algorithm trained on 5e apologia that someone bought a forums account?
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Do you guys have some good resources for arena challenges / puzzles? I want my players to meet up at the beginning of their adventure in a sort of Olympics venue. I'll have a few NPCs in there, and the point is that they start off unaligned but will hopefully get to know each other and start to team up. Then some catastrophic thing happens at which time they'll either join as a party or let people get killed. If you're looking for a reasonably simple way to run this mechanically in-system, you might find some inspiration from parts of the UA downtime rules. Tl;dr, describe some competition and have players make three different ability checks along the way. The more they succeed, the better the reward (and more complications avoided). Put together however many competitions you think you'll need, varying the skills tested in each one. The article doesn't offer guidance on getting the players to work together, but here's my thought: Offer them the chance to work together and choose who makes what check, and you can even have them Help one another to confer advantage on any roll wherever that would make sense. But you can also stipulate that they'll need to split the reward if they work together like this. If you structure the rewards in such a way that half of the payout of succeeding on all three checks beats the full reward for one or two successes, they'll naturally want to increase their odds by working together. NPCs can demonstrate that this is possible and (if the players are novices) that working alone is a bad idea when you only have +best ability score +proficiency on probably two skills at best.
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MonsterEnvy posted:To be fair here, WotC is not making this thing. As they agree they are too inept to make a device. I mean you're right everyone knows that to design something on the internet you write your idea on a piece of parchment and place it into a bottle which you seal with a wax stopper and throw it into the ocean and then in 1d6 weeks you will get a ghostly messenger from a random tech company with the fully completed design which you must accept or you will offend the gods of the internet and never make money again Oh wait no WotC would have been explicitly involved in the design of this program and is 100% to blame for it, not the random company that they told to write the code lmao are you loving kidding me with this stupid poo poo.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Do you guys have some good resources for arena challenges / puzzles? I want my players to meet up at the beginning of their adventure in a sort of Olympics venue. I'll have a few NPCs in there, and the point is that they start off unaligned but will hopefully get to know each other and start to team up. Then some catastrophic thing happens at which time they'll either join as a party or let people get killed. My two suggestions would be to watch and pillage this and other videos like it. If that doesn't solve it for you take the question to the GM thread, that thread has awesome creative suggestions all day every day.
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clusterfuck posted:My two suggestions would be to watch and pillage this and other videos like it. Oh poo poo, a mix of these and mxc, with the end goal of winning crowd votes instead of completing the tasks is absolutely perfect. The players will try to ham it up and clown around, there's no real penalty for failing rolls if they can make it funny, and if they work together they can do crazy poo poo that puts them ahead of the NPCs. Thank you, this is so much better than I was originally going for.
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Ran my first 5e game for a bunch of new players last night using Lost Mine of Phandelver (reskinned). They managed to make enough noise to alert a roomful of goblins, then retreated back to the entrance to the cave and waited while the entire cave roused against them. They severely injured a lot of the goblins with the Dragonborn's lightning breath, then the druid entangled the remainder. The Dragonborn then made an intimidate check consisting of dropping trou and showing the goblins his enormous, uh, bad dragon. He rolled a natural 20 on this. Anyway with advantage and a mass of stuck goblins it was a slaughter that ended quickly. Klarg's wolf got one-shot by a sneak attack and Klarg got whittled down by various attacks. Everyone had a good time, but were very silly. The party members were named Michael Sweet (Blue Dragonborn Fighter), Sphinctrela (Copper Dragonborn Sorcerer), Kaa (Lizardfolk Druid, originally named J'Nifer), Lil' Halfsies (Halfling Rogue), Augurbucket (Dwarf Rogue), and Snickerdoodle Dickman (Dwarf Cleric). EDIT: All of these players were older than 30.
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Please discourage players from revealing genitals as an aggressive, non consensual act.
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mango sentinel posted:Please discourage players from revealing genitals as an aggressive, non consensual act. Yeah, that seems like a reasonable policy.
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UP AND ADAM posted:Do what feels right Hopefully what feels right is not allowing players to show their genitalia as an aggressive, non-consensual act but y'know, you do you.
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Dragonborn are big lizards, what is there even to show? 
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Serf posted:Dragonborn are big lizards, what is there even to show? The roll fails and all the goblins come rushing closer to inspect the dragonborn's cloaca.
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Serf posted:Dragonborn are big lizards, what is there even to show? The women have tits, so who knows? I don't imagine breastfeeding a baby with shark teeth would be fun.
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mango sentinel posted:Please discourage players from revealing genitals as an aggressive, non consensual act. One of our female players plays a male dragonborn and decided to shake her dangly bits as part of an intimidate check. The table spent 5 minutes trying to figure out what she could even show, then decided nobody actually saw and it'll forever be a mystery. Except for the kobold. That poor, poor kobold.
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There's the whole golden rule of never shutting down ideas and improvisations from the party as the DM and doing your best to never straight up say "no" but in the middle of combat if someone suggests pulling out their cock I would, in fact, say "no."
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I don't think the genders of the player or character really affect the appropriateness, which is "not" unless the whole table (incl DM) has explicitly opted into displays of sexual aggression.
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